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how do I mla parenthetically cite the US census —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.128.95.0 (talk) 00:41, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- "...(United States Census Bureau xx)..." where xx is the page number of the source [1]. schyler (talk) 00:48, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Changing the page colour
HOW DO YOU CHANGE THE PAGE COLOR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshuad95 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Could you tell us what kind of page you mean? Marnanel (talk) 02:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- If you are refering to Wikipedia, then once you are logged in select "my preferences" at the top of the screen, and you will then find the option to amend your choice of "skin" which is the page colour etc... Oh and please do not use caps lock as it has the effect of shouting! gazhiley.co.uk 13:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Crayons. --Ouro (blah blah) 09:27, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- If you are refering to Wikipedia, then once you are logged in select "my preferences" at the top of the screen, and you will then find the option to amend your choice of "skin" which is the page colour etc... Oh and please do not use caps lock as it has the effect of shouting! gazhiley.co.uk 13:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Utility building in Tribeca, New York
In Jonathan Franzen's novel Freedom (p.347 of my Farrar Straus Giroux copy) there is a reference to a "massive Eisenhower-era utility building that marred the architectural vistas of almost every Tribecan loft-dweller". Which building is being referred to here? TriBeCa is no help. Thanks, --Viennese Waltz 09:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have done some searching using Google Maps and cannot find a massive utility building in Tribeca that dates to the Eisenhower era. The only massive utility buildings in the area are 33 Thomas Street, which was completed in 1974, during either the Nixon or Ford presidency, and 32 Avenue of the Americas, completed in 1932 during the Hoover presidency. Marco polo (talk) 20:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
"big shoe bazaar" - question original posed as article
Hi all,
Question asked by Quuuu2 was originally created as article Bigshoebazaar.
Is there any page with the name or content under the tag of big shoe bazaar or what was its content? Can you please sort out this query? I would be extremely glad to know about the details of the page filed under the name of big shoe bazaar.
Please don't shoot the messenger, tho there are precedents enough.
--Sentry58 (talk) 11:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- If you click on the red link above, you will see the notice stating that the article was deleted because it was "blatant advertising ... with no meaningful, substantive content".--Shantavira|feed me 13:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Happy for not having rights
Shouldn't we be happy for not having rights sometimes? If obligations are based on rights, that implies that you don't have certain obligations. 212.169.187.62 (talk) 13:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- What "rights" are you referring to? Can you give some representative examples of the sorts of "rights" we should be thinking of, and even their corresponding "obligations"? I think we should have a more finely-honed question so that our responses can be more targeted. Bus stop (talk) 14:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's the argument that slavery apologists used to use: "Oh, they're better off as slaves; they're fully employed, free room and board," etc. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- And in practice, if that is all you are looking at, there was some truth for that. Arguably the position of many slaves (whether in the American South, or the emancipated serfs in Russia) was far worse after they had been liberated than it had been before. But that calculus clearly does not take into account the fuller ramifications of slavery, of human needs. --Mr.98 (talk) 13:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- For some odd reason, the slaveowners apparently never actually asked the slaves that question, opting instead to "speak for them". Once slavery was ended, most of them split, and that was as good an implied answer as any. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Err, actually, when slavery ended, most of them became share croppers, which had arguably worse conditions than under slavery. I'm not apologizing for slavery. But I think it's important to emphasize that things got worse for many before they got better. And they didn't get close to parity with the white population until well over a century later. --Mr.98 (talk) 19:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Nonetheless, they had some measure of choice. Under slavery, there was no choice. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Had every freeded slave been given 40 acres, 50 dollars, and a mule, they would have had meaningful choices and all of us would have been much better off today. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Err, actually, when slavery ended, most of them became share croppers, which had arguably worse conditions than under slavery. I'm not apologizing for slavery. But I think it's important to emphasize that things got worse for many before they got better. And they didn't get close to parity with the white population until well over a century later. --Mr.98 (talk) 19:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- For some odd reason, the slaveowners apparently never actually asked the slaves that question, opting instead to "speak for them". Once slavery was ended, most of them split, and that was as good an implied answer as any. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- And in practice, if that is all you are looking at, there was some truth for that. Arguably the position of many slaves (whether in the American South, or the emancipated serfs in Russia) was far worse after they had been liberated than it had been before. But that calculus clearly does not take into account the fuller ramifications of slavery, of human needs. --Mr.98 (talk) 13:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I wonder what obligations you have in mind. I think if you made it clear what those obligations were, you'd see how "happy" you should or should not be. Do you think that the Soviet people were pleased by lacking the obligation of voting once every few years? --Mr.98 (talk) 13:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, the only thing we're "obliged" to do is obey the law. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- In some cases not having the rights of citizenship in a country can allow one to avoid the obligation of military conscription—so in that case I think a lot of people would be real happy. Qrsdogg (talk) 14:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Note that that is not the case for the American Selective Service System. All males within the age range must register, regardless of citizenship status, unless they are in the USA only for a specified temporary visit. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:37, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Conscription is not everything: if you are a US-citizen, you get taxed on your worldwide income, no matter where you are (exemptions apply, for avoiding double taxation, for example). That's a right that I don't want to have. Quest09 (talk) 14:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- You'd rather have your taxes be at the European level??? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- If I got the same services, then yes, certainly. (Speaking as a European who is currently paying US income tax.) Marnanel (talk) 14:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Your European taxes level includes health care (in Spain, UK and France, at least) and discounted college fees, sometimes even free. Quest09 (talk) 15:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- You're paying taxes for it. It's not "free". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's free at the point of use, and entirely free for some people. That's a perfectly usual meaning of the word "free". Warofdreams talk 16:45, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Nothing is free. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's free at the point of use, and entirely free for some people. That's a perfectly usual meaning of the word "free". Warofdreams talk 16:45, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- You're paying taxes for it. It's not "free". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Your European taxes level includes health care (in Spain, UK and France, at least) and discounted college fees, sometimes even free. Quest09 (talk) 15:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- If I got the same services, then yes, certainly. (Speaking as a European who is currently paying US income tax.) Marnanel (talk) 14:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- You'd rather have your taxes be at the European level??? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Conscription is not everything: if you are a US-citizen, you get taxed on your worldwide income, no matter where you are (exemptions apply, for avoiding double taxation, for example). That's a right that I don't want to have. Quest09 (talk) 14:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Note that that is not the case for the American Selective Service System. All males within the age range must register, regardless of citizenship status, unless they are in the USA only for a specified temporary visit. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:37, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- In some cases not having the rights of citizenship in a country can allow one to avoid the obligation of military conscription—so in that case I think a lot of people would be real happy. Qrsdogg (talk) 14:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, the only thing we're "obliged" to do is obey the law. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Every single time this comes up, an American (usually Bugs) feels the need to 'explain' this to people who live in a country where precisely how it is funded, and what is covered, is mentioned at every election, and in much of the political discourse in between. Do you think the electorate of these countries are so stupid they do not know how taxation works? And given you are replying to a message that explains the tax includes the price of healthcare, what are you even trying to prove? That you don't understand? Anyway, look at this 'huge' difference in tax rates between the UK and the US, then remember the UK citizens paying that tax don't have to pay health insurance or hospital bills, and if they received higher education they are paying off much lower loans. Which is the point Quest was making: you're not usually going to be worse off, financially. 86.164.25.178 (talk) 17:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- You've only been here since the 9th, so you can't possibly know what I do "every single time" regarding anything. And you continue to call something "free" that is not "free". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Really, Bugs, you're going to judge an IP's longevity based on the record first post? That's a fairly big logical error. Even named accounts can have different origin dates. I have been here for a very, very long time, myself, much longer than this account lets on. --Mr.98 (talk) 19:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- He's free to elaborate if he wants to. Until then, I only know that he started on the 9th. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:24, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- She's been here since 2003, and it's pretty obvious from my comment that I've been around longer than this IP address: I'd expect most people to be able to put that together, but then I'd also expect most people to realise that the word 'free' does not usually mean 'nobody paid for it at any point', and that Quest was even specifically referring to cases where some people actually do receive something that is free for them. After all, I paid no tax in order to get free eye tests and glasses in my childhood. I 'buy one, get one free' without assuming the supermarket magicked the 'free' product into existence without anyone paying anything. And I edit a 'free' encyclopedia that requires huge amounts of donated money to run. 'Free' does not only have the single, narrow meaning you imply, and it is frankly insulting to 'explain' that things paid for from the public purse require money from the public purse, every time someone mentions that the taxes of many countries include the price of healthcare for all citizens. 86.164.25.178 (talk) 19:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I see no evidence of your existence here prior to 9 days ago. And nothing comes free, even if you want to believe it's free. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I see no evidence that anything exists outside my personal experience at this precise moment: I'm surprised you see evidence I'm anything other than a fleeting thought in your dreaming mind. Once we reject that mode of thought, we have to accept less rigorous proof. And at some point, you have to decide: is everyone else using a word wrong, or does the word have a different meaning to what you thought? You are using the word 'free' to mean something different to the meaning people have explained it means in this sentence, and then are insisting that they are wrong because the sentence isn't true if the word means this different thing. If "nothing is free" following the meaning you are using, and people are explaining how many things are free, perhaps the solution is not to assume they are all too stupid to realise this, but perhaps to assume your meaning of the word is not the relevant one. 86.164.25.178 (talk) 20:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeh, the typical IP attitude, feeling free to take personal attack shots at others without having to account for it. And you wonder why I have such rock-bottom regard for IP's. However, in the case of "free" goods and services, "free", as in "free of charge" means "not having to pay money for it". How are you not having to pay money for it? Or have you figured out a tax dodge so that you can stick everyone else with paying for it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:39, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Please, feel free to point out where I have made a 'personal attack shot', since that is a policy violation and I take Wikipedia policy seriously. I do not wonder why you have such rock-bottom regard for IP's: life is too short, and it is not relevant. "After all, I paid no tax in order to get free eye tests and glasses in my childhood". I pay taxes so that the health service and schools and fire brigade and police and functioning roads are available for everyone: using them is free for me, and for anyone else who needs to use them, regardless of how much or little they have paid into the system. I pay the same amount in tax, whether or not I use them. Using them is free for me, and was before I had paid any tax at all. What costs money is providing the system, and I pay for that. Reading Wikipedia is free for me, although money has to be paid by someone at some point for it to be available. As explained, this is the usual meaning of the word 'free' in this context, and is the meaning people have in mind when they say "we have free healthcare". It is "free at the point of use", although obviously it has to be paid for by society as a whole. When someone explains that the taxes paid include the cost of healthcare, which is free, they clearly are not using the word 'free' in the way you have defined it, and responding to them with 'nothing is free' is not especially productive. 86.164.25.178 (talk) 21:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, so "brain in a vat" was supposed to be a compliment, then? OK, you can continue to delude yourself as to what "free" is, that's up to you. And I will continue to point out that delusion when it arises. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Under 86's logic, it would appear that any insurance payouts are free money, regardless of how much their premiums cost them. If you want to consider that free, I guess no one can stop you, but I won't buy into that delusion. Googlemeister (talk) 22:07, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Paying insurance premiums is not a purchase of payouts. It is purchasing freedom from possible loss(es) that may also give freedom from worry and FUD. I hope Googlemeister doesn't find that the insurance he buys turns out to be an illusion. State healthcare is a form of insurance. Quest09, Warofdreams and IP user 86.164.25.178 have all used "free" in a comprehensible way. It is a pity that Baseball Bugs expresses his persuasion that state involvement is undesireable in bombastic terms that do not advance any cogent analysis of the subject. User 86.164.25.178 is no less worthy of regard than Baseball Bugs, is wrongly accused by the latter of personal attack where they made none, and gives a reasoned account for what they are saying. However it is as unhelpful to categorise what Americans do "every single time" as to categorise negatively our IP-using contributors. I don't where "brain in a vat" arose but it is a notable philosophical concept that can be traced back to Plato's Allegory of the Cave. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 14:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Under 86's logic, it would appear that any insurance payouts are free money, regardless of how much their premiums cost them. If you want to consider that free, I guess no one can stop you, but I won't buy into that delusion. Googlemeister (talk) 22:07, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, so "brain in a vat" was supposed to be a compliment, then? OK, you can continue to delude yourself as to what "free" is, that's up to you. And I will continue to point out that delusion when it arises. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Please, feel free to point out where I have made a 'personal attack shot', since that is a policy violation and I take Wikipedia policy seriously. I do not wonder why you have such rock-bottom regard for IP's: life is too short, and it is not relevant. "After all, I paid no tax in order to get free eye tests and glasses in my childhood". I pay taxes so that the health service and schools and fire brigade and police and functioning roads are available for everyone: using them is free for me, and for anyone else who needs to use them, regardless of how much or little they have paid into the system. I pay the same amount in tax, whether or not I use them. Using them is free for me, and was before I had paid any tax at all. What costs money is providing the system, and I pay for that. Reading Wikipedia is free for me, although money has to be paid by someone at some point for it to be available. As explained, this is the usual meaning of the word 'free' in this context, and is the meaning people have in mind when they say "we have free healthcare". It is "free at the point of use", although obviously it has to be paid for by society as a whole. When someone explains that the taxes paid include the cost of healthcare, which is free, they clearly are not using the word 'free' in the way you have defined it, and responding to them with 'nothing is free' is not especially productive. 86.164.25.178 (talk) 21:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeh, the typical IP attitude, feeling free to take personal attack shots at others without having to account for it. And you wonder why I have such rock-bottom regard for IP's. However, in the case of "free" goods and services, "free", as in "free of charge" means "not having to pay money for it". How are you not having to pay money for it? Or have you figured out a tax dodge so that you can stick everyone else with paying for it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:39, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I see no evidence that anything exists outside my personal experience at this precise moment: I'm surprised you see evidence I'm anything other than a fleeting thought in your dreaming mind. Once we reject that mode of thought, we have to accept less rigorous proof. And at some point, you have to decide: is everyone else using a word wrong, or does the word have a different meaning to what you thought? You are using the word 'free' to mean something different to the meaning people have explained it means in this sentence, and then are insisting that they are wrong because the sentence isn't true if the word means this different thing. If "nothing is free" following the meaning you are using, and people are explaining how many things are free, perhaps the solution is not to assume they are all too stupid to realise this, but perhaps to assume your meaning of the word is not the relevant one. 86.164.25.178 (talk) 20:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I see no evidence of your existence here prior to 9 days ago. And nothing comes free, even if you want to believe it's free. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- She's been here since 2003, and it's pretty obvious from my comment that I've been around longer than this IP address: I'd expect most people to be able to put that together, but then I'd also expect most people to realise that the word 'free' does not usually mean 'nobody paid for it at any point', and that Quest was even specifically referring to cases where some people actually do receive something that is free for them. After all, I paid no tax in order to get free eye tests and glasses in my childhood. I 'buy one, get one free' without assuming the supermarket magicked the 'free' product into existence without anyone paying anything. And I edit a 'free' encyclopedia that requires huge amounts of donated money to run. 'Free' does not only have the single, narrow meaning you imply, and it is frankly insulting to 'explain' that things paid for from the public purse require money from the public purse, every time someone mentions that the taxes of many countries include the price of healthcare for all citizens. 86.164.25.178 (talk) 19:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- He's free to elaborate if he wants to. Until then, I only know that he started on the 9th. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:24, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Really, Bugs, you're going to judge an IP's longevity based on the record first post? That's a fairly big logical error. Even named accounts can have different origin dates. I have been here for a very, very long time, myself, much longer than this account lets on. --Mr.98 (talk) 19:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- You've only been here since the 9th, so you can't possibly know what I do "every single time" regarding anything. And you continue to call something "free" that is not "free". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Every single time this comes up, an American (usually Bugs) feels the need to 'explain' this to people who live in a country where precisely how it is funded, and what is covered, is mentioned at every election, and in much of the political discourse in between. Do you think the electorate of these countries are so stupid they do not know how taxation works? And given you are replying to a message that explains the tax includes the price of healthcare, what are you even trying to prove? That you don't understand? Anyway, look at this 'huge' difference in tax rates between the UK and the US, then remember the UK citizens paying that tax don't have to pay health insurance or hospital bills, and if they received higher education they are paying off much lower loans. Which is the point Quest was making: you're not usually going to be worse off, financially. 86.164.25.178 (talk) 17:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. I'm personally very happy I don't have the right to randomly shoot strangers in the street, that is, rather, that I'm happy other people don't have that right. After all, we could have a society where people were free to do what they like - anarchy (of either sort) - and that isn't so hard to believe as a possible. - Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 17:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I assume you're describing America, as there is no right to randomly shoot strangers in the street here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:41, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well no, I was describing the vast majority of nations on the planet, including my homeland. But it does of course hold for the US. - Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 18:08, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I assume you're describing America, as there is no right to randomly shoot strangers in the street here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:41, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Just to reiterate my point, you have to outline the real "obligations" first to know if they are worth the trade-off. Example: I am obligated, every so often, to show up for jury duty. That is perhaps kind of a hassle (though honestly I have never gotten to the stage where I've even had to show up to the courthouse, much less been drafted into a jury, personally), but if you compare not having to do that with the costs of having a jury-less legal system, it seems like a pretty minor sacrifice. Another example: I am (in the US) obligated to register with the Selective Service and potentially be drafted. That might be somewhat scary, to be sure, but this is actually a pretty compromising position, if I don't want compulsory military service (which is common in societies with less "rights", as well as a number of liberal democracies as well) or don't want my nation to be totally undefended should it get into a big war (which would have high costs for me as well). That's a more questionable compromise, though I'm not sure a society with "less rights" would be a better alternative there (one could argue that a nation should have an entirely volunteer army, which is essentially what the US has in effect, and that seems to be working more or less well in terms of security). Another example: I have to pay sales and income tax. Question: Would a society with less rights have more or less taxes? Technically speaking I can affect how much I am taxed, though in principle that can be complicated and difficult. That is actually a tremendous "right" in the American system. Going to a system with less rights would probably result in me having no control over that process, and would probably still result in taxation (which seems inevitable anyway). Another example: I have the obligation of voting once every few years. Does that "burden" (election cycles, endless advertisements and articles, the actual work of voting) balance out against the "convenience" of having no control over my government? It looks like an absurd formulation when you put it that way. I think one cannot talk about the abstract principles here without actual concrete examples, and I think most examples lean on the side that the "burdens" are relatively light compared to the "benefits" of being without rights. --Mr.98 (talk) 19:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Everyone has obligations, regardless of whether they also have freedom or are living in a totalitarian state. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- @Mr.98, it is surprising to hear that you are obligated to vote in the US. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 20:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Everyone has obligations, regardless of whether they also have freedom or are living in a totalitarian state. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm reminded of what Will Rogers said about that grand and glorious experiment in freedom called the Soviet Union. When someone griped about the American income tax, Rogers retorted, "In Russia, they ain't got no income tax. But they ain't got no income!" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- \Here's a concrete example: I am delighted that my own goverment denies me the right to keep a gun in my home. I have no wish for my daughter to find it and accidentally kill herself or her sister with it, or for a burglar to take it off me and kill me with it if I attempt to use it to defend us. I have no desire to kill anyone. I happily forgo any responsibility for maintaining or licensing a gun, or keeping it locked securely away, in exchange for a law that says ordinary citizens don't need them and will be punished for owning them. As recompense for the "tyranny" of the state preventing me from keeping a gun in my house, I expect said state to use my taxes to make it as difficult as possible for criminals to get hold of illegal guns, and to lock up anyone caught with one for a long, long time. Society balances individual rights against the general good, and one man's indispensable right may be his neighbour's unwanted responsibility. If the pendulum swings too far one way, you have anarchy; too far the other way and you have totalitarianism. Everything else is a compromise of sorts. Karenjc 23:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- ... and I'm happy that the same government as Karenjc's (I think) allows me the right to keep a (licensed) gun in my home, and that it imposes some very onerous restrictions on where I keep it and how I use it, and makes it difficult to obtain a licence. I agree that these balances are all compromises, and I think the governments on both sides of the pond get things roughly correct in balancing freedoms against responsibilities for their respective populations. We do have the power to change things if most of us think that they are getting it wrong. Dbfirs 08:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- As long as we're on opinion, I don't think it's about right. I'm for much more individual liberty and much less emphasis on social order. I further claim that whether most of us think it's about right is not the point. --Trovatore (talk) 09:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well you do have more liberty in your country, and some other countries have less, but at least we can change the situation if most of us want to do so. I'm with you in supporting individual liberty, and I often wish there was less regulation here, but I'm willing to compromise if the majority want to keep the legislation. Dbfirs 09:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, see, I'm not. In my opinion it's a violation of natural law, which the collective has no authority to alter. --Trovatore (talk) 09:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I think I could live happily in your Utopia, and I'd be delighted with just nineteen laws, but what happens when others have a different interpretation of how "natural law" should work when our freedoms clash? In a large society, who acts as "Arbitrator"? Dbfirs 09:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- It is a problem. --Trovatore (talk) 19:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, who decides which laws are "natural"? One of the reasons people generally prefer democratic deliberation over appeals to natural law is that one guy's natural law is another guy's arbitrary theocracy. (Whether you appeal to Nature or to the Good Book or whatever, it is still an appeal to authority parsed through human interpretation.) I find natural law to be a pretty ridiculous thing to base one's convictions on; even the Declaration of Independence is rather ridiculous if you read it as actually trying to describe how natural law would work (is it really "self-evident" that all men are created equal? I admit it is not self-evident to me in the least!). --Mr.98 (talk) 14:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Created equal" simply means with equal basic rights, not the same. And, it's a target not a description of a status quo. Quest09 (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. Read the whole of the 2nd sentence of the United States Declaration of Independence that begins "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." to understand that this is neither a claim nor an observation but an asserted intention. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 09:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Despite the DOI saying "all men are created equal", you still had widespread organised slavery for around a century afterwards in the US. 92.15.16.146 (talk) 11:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. Read the whole of the 2nd sentence of the United States Declaration of Independence that begins "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." to understand that this is neither a claim nor an observation but an asserted intention. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 09:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Created equal" simply means with equal basic rights, not the same. And, it's a target not a description of a status quo. Quest09 (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I think I could live happily in your Utopia, and I'd be delighted with just nineteen laws, but what happens when others have a different interpretation of how "natural law" should work when our freedoms clash? In a large society, who acts as "Arbitrator"? Dbfirs 09:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, see, I'm not. In my opinion it's a violation of natural law, which the collective has no authority to alter. --Trovatore (talk) 09:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well you do have more liberty in your country, and some other countries have less, but at least we can change the situation if most of us want to do so. I'm with you in supporting individual liberty, and I often wish there was less regulation here, but I'm willing to compromise if the majority want to keep the legislation. Dbfirs 09:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- As long as we're on opinion, I don't think it's about right. I'm for much more individual liberty and much less emphasis on social order. I further claim that whether most of us think it's about right is not the point. --Trovatore (talk) 09:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- ... and I'm happy that the same government as Karenjc's (I think) allows me the right to keep a (licensed) gun in my home, and that it imposes some very onerous restrictions on where I keep it and how I use it, and makes it difficult to obtain a licence. I agree that these balances are all compromises, and I think the governments on both sides of the pond get things roughly correct in balancing freedoms against responsibilities for their respective populations. We do have the power to change things if most of us think that they are getting it wrong. Dbfirs 08:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm happy that I don't have the right to buy a gun, as it means that I and my children relatives and friends are unlikely to be shot by a nutter or criminal, or by accident. I understand the clip of the grandmother who attacked people trying to rob a jeweller's has been shown in the US - you can see that nobody is worried about getting shot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he52NKjhqx8 Wordsworth wrote a poem relating to the OPs question: Nuns Fret Not at Their Convent's Narrow Room. http://www.bartleby.com/101/533.html Most people are content to live by the rules of society, in return for what it brings, rather than having the right to do whatever you like in an anarchic wilderness. 92.24.182.65 (talk) 22:22, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Best sized Cruiser bicycle?
What is the best sized Cruiser bicycle for a man that is 5'11" - 24" or 26"? --Endlessdan (talk) 14:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
One that is not too big, or too small, but just right.--85.211.216.54 (talk) 14:53, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I favour larger diameter wheels as they ride the bumps better. Saddles are adjustable so you should fit any bike. --80.176.225.249 (talk) 18:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- According to this source, you want the 26" bike. Marco polo (talk) 18:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- That is what I was looking for. Thank you very much. --Endlessdan (talk) 15:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Rifled bullets
Would a bullet with spiral grooves on the outside fired from a smoothbore gun spin as a smooth bullet fired from a rifled gun does? If so, why is this mechanism unused? If not, why not? 128.223.222.23 (talk) 16:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Bullets are made from soft(ish) material. Bullets swage when fired - you need to form a good seal between bullet and barrel so the expanding gasses push the bullet instead of rushing past it. So, this does not sound like it would work very well. Whereas rifled barrels do work quite well. Friday (talk) 17:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Rifling inside a bore not only imparts spin, but the bore itself imparts straightness to the trajectory, at the same time that it is imparting spin. I would think that grooves added to the outside of a bullet would be much less tolerant of imperfection, as any such imperfections would be magnified over the course of the long flight of the projectile. Imperfections that might be found in the rifling inside the bore are negated by the control exerted by the straightness of the bore. Once the projectile leaves the bore, all but the slightest imperfections I think would be likely to introduce perturbations that would be magnified in the course of a long flight. Bus stop (talk) 18:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Some shotgun slugs have inclined protrusions around the outside, but they provide no spin; instead they reduce friction inside the barrel and allow the slug to pass through the choke. The gas seal is provided by wadding. anonymous6494 19:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Some modern tank guns - ie Rheinmetall 120 mm gun - are smoothbores, but fire mainly fin stabilised shot with an outer casing or sabot that falls away after the round leaves the gun. The sabot makes the seal and protects the fins during the initial blast. I'm not sure if the fins impart a spin or not. Alansplodge (talk) 18:29, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Some shotgun slugs have inclined protrusions around the outside, but they provide no spin; instead they reduce friction inside the barrel and allow the slug to pass through the choke. The gas seal is provided by wadding. anonymous6494 19:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Cote de Pablo
How can I write to Cote de Pablo?
James Irwin <e-mail removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.226.89 (talk) 16:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Through her agents. Go to http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm1580243/?d=nm_header_moreatpro and sign up, but be sure to terminate the registration after 14 days or you will be charged. Corvus cornixtalk 19:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- On May 22, 2010, Cote de Pablo was at Acqualina Resort & Spa in Sunny Isles Beach, FL.[2] You can send a letter to the spa and ask them to forward it (although the agent approach might be better). -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Wheel cover
Do hubcaps serve any purpose besides decoration? Do I have to replace it if one falls off? 70.130.137.64 (talk) 22:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hubcaps are decorative and not functional. You don't have to replace if you don't want to. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:06, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, they probably reduce the chances of the lugnuts getting frozen due to moisture working its way into the threads. Looie496 (talk) 23:15, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Water vapor condenses onto cold metal when it is below the dew point. Few if any hubcaps provide an airtight fit over a solid wheel. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:25, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, they probably reduce the chances of the lugnuts getting frozen due to moisture working its way into the threads. Looie496 (talk) 23:15, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- They can guard the wheel from debris which could chip the finish. A chip in the finish could accelerate rust formation. Dismas|(talk) 23:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- They're mainly decorative, but you may wish to replace it if you intend to sell the car at some point in the future. Buyers may subconsciously view a missing or non-matching hubcap as a sign of neglect, in the same way that they'd subconsciously regard an unwashed floor in an otherwise pristine house for sale. --NellieBly (talk) 01:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hubcaps serve as a cheap means of imitating the styling of magnesium or aluminum alloy wheels, display the car marque and prevent dust entering the wheel bearing. Special hubcap designs modify airflow or are non-rotating for diaplaying advertisements. A wheel cover can also refer to an overall cover on an external rear-mounted spare tire on some off-road vehicles. EDITABLElink— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuddlyable3 (talk • contribs)
- Girly OR here, but on the occasions I've changed a car tyre, my hands have been much cleaner when the wheels have had hubcaps on! Guess it keeps the wheelnuts clean. --TammyMoet (talk) 13:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Although with some wheel covers the nuts come through the cover (often holding it place) and therefore would not get the nuts clean... gazhiley.co.uk 14:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's important to keep your nuts clean. You never know who's going to be eating them. :) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 17:39, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Some plastic wheel covers carry fake nuts, possibly this one, Cuddlyable3 (talk) 22:49, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Although with some wheel covers the nuts come through the cover (often holding it place) and therefore would not get the nuts clean... gazhiley.co.uk 14:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Back when I owned a car, the most useful function of the hubcap was to hold the lug nuts while you're changing tires. Sure beats watching them roll down the sewer opening! DOR (HK) (talk) 08:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
February 17
Japan has some of the most expensive taxi fares in the world; much of them now exceeds $5/mile (which is about the fare of a limousine in the United States.)
Now, if we got Itoman's local taxi fares, and calculated in the distance the wheels actually move + the ferry fees + all the tolls to ride all the way up the nation, what would the total fares be once the passenger is about ready to disembark at Cape Soya? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.187.21 (talk) 01:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- A few thousand to ten or more thousand US dollars? The driver would also probably want to charge the return fare (that is standard in case of long-distance taxi routes in Poland - not inside the city but if you'd want to go i. e. between two voivodeships). Factor in any additional costs like food, accomodation... I suppose this is just a theoretical exercise, isn't it? --Ouro (blah blah) 09:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Presumably enough to buy you a brand new car you could ride yourself for the distance and keep after the journey :) Also, I'm wondering, why Itoman? If you are aiming strictly for distance, wouldn't Yonaguni be even further away from Soya? And if you are just going for extreme + settled points, there's settled islands further South from Itoman, like Ishigaki. TomorrowTime (talk) 09:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- According to this article, it was ¥359230 from Shinagawa Station, Tokyo to Dazaifu, Fukuoka in 2009. The distance is about 1000km. Oda Mari (talk) 10:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm guessing that's maybe one third of the distance the OP is suggesting, without ferries? So all in all maybe somewhere generously upwards from a million yen? TomorrowTime (talk) 11:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- There is the Kanmon Tunnel between Honshu and Kyushu. And the Seikan Tunnel between Honshu and Hokkaido. You only have to use ferry from Naha, Okinawa to Hakata, Fukuoka or Kagoshima, Kagoshima. I found similar cases. From Bunkyo, Tokyo to Hirakawa, Aomori, it was ¥205860. From Toyohashi, Aichi to Aomori, Aomori, 1115km, it was ¥352900. It might be somewhere between 0.7 to 0.9 million yen. Oda Mari (talk) 15:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Could taxi drivers in Japan also be persuaded to lower the price a bit considering the long distance? I know you can do that here in Slovenia, but in Japan I almost never rode taxis - with the exception of sometimes getting one when I was late coming from Tokyo and missed the last bus and the walk from Minami-Yono Station to Saitama University was just too daunting. TomorrowTime (talk) 20:14, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's possible. But I've never had a long distance ride. Oda Mari (talk) 05:43, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Could taxi drivers in Japan also be persuaded to lower the price a bit considering the long distance? I know you can do that here in Slovenia, but in Japan I almost never rode taxis - with the exception of sometimes getting one when I was late coming from Tokyo and missed the last bus and the walk from Minami-Yono Station to Saitama University was just too daunting. TomorrowTime (talk) 20:14, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- There is the Kanmon Tunnel between Honshu and Kyushu. And the Seikan Tunnel between Honshu and Hokkaido. You only have to use ferry from Naha, Okinawa to Hakata, Fukuoka or Kagoshima, Kagoshima. I found similar cases. From Bunkyo, Tokyo to Hirakawa, Aomori, it was ¥205860. From Toyohashi, Aichi to Aomori, Aomori, 1115km, it was ¥352900. It might be somewhere between 0.7 to 0.9 million yen. Oda Mari (talk) 15:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm guessing that's maybe one third of the distance the OP is suggesting, without ferries? So all in all maybe somewhere generously upwards from a million yen? TomorrowTime (talk) 11:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- According to this article, it was ¥359230 from Shinagawa Station, Tokyo to Dazaifu, Fukuoka in 2009. The distance is about 1000km. Oda Mari (talk) 10:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Presumably enough to buy you a brand new car you could ride yourself for the distance and keep after the journey :) Also, I'm wondering, why Itoman? If you are aiming strictly for distance, wouldn't Yonaguni be even further away from Soya? And if you are just going for extreme + settled points, there's settled islands further South from Itoman, like Ishigaki. TomorrowTime (talk) 09:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
statue to Mary Wollstonecraft
I am fascinated to read, as a source to her article, that:
- Many words were spoken on the subject of woman suffrage last night at the National Arts Club, 119 East Nineteenth Street, where the "Quaint" Club and the "Twilight" Club entertained at dinner the Men's League for Woman Suffrage. The battle raged mostly about Mary Wollstonecraft, an early advocate of woman's rights, in whose memory a statue is about to be erected. ("The Suffrage Cause Invades Men's Club". New York Times. May 25, 1910.)
What was the Quaint Club? What happened to the Twilight Club? And most importantly, was the proposed statue ever unveiled? BrainyBabe (talk) 01:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
According to this article in the Hackney Citizen, there is currently no such statue anywhere in the UK. One has been commissioned for Newington Green, though. --NellieBly (talk) 02:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- In lieu of a statue there is a plaque on the site of Wollstonecraft's last residence in London [3]. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 09:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Isn't the article saying that the statue was going to be erected in New York, not in the UK? Corvus cornixtalk 18:29, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- The Quaint Club was a monthly New York dining club, founded in 1882,"quaint+club"+tucker&q="quaint+club" which met at "the best hotel in town""quaint+club"+best+hotel&q="quaint+club"+"best+hotel" - in the late nineteenth century, this was apparently the Waldorf. The article you mention is the latest source I can find for its existence. The Twilight Club apparently held their 686th dinner in 1914, but I suspect that both it and the Quaint Club died out during or soon after World War I - by 1938, the Twilight Club was clearly long-gone.[4] Warofdreams talk 12:08, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I just know I'm going to muddle my indentations. Thank you all so far, but my curiosity remains unsatisfied.
- I know of the plans for a British statue, and of the existing plaque in Camden. There is also a set of gates in Wollstonecraft's name at Spitalfields Market near where she was born, and the 100th anniversary of International Women's Day next month will see another plaque, this time at Newington Green, where she lived for a time. None of this helps me understand what happened to the statue mentioned in the article from a century ago; as Corvus cornix suggested, it seems that it was a New York project. Was it just a pipedream? Was it commissioned and then never finished? Was it sculpted but never installed in public?
- If the statue was the brainchild of one of the three organisations mentioned, the Quaint and Twilight Clubs and the Men's League for Women's Suffrage, perhaps an answer might be found in a history of one of them. Does any such history exist? BrainyBabe (talk) 14:30, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
hilbert space
what is hilbert space and matrix application in quantum mechanicsSurajeet Ghosh (talk) 08:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
172
I hope this isn't deemed an inappropriate question, but I stumbled onto an old discussion in the WP archives, and, after looking at the edit history of the parties involved, I find some aspects of the story rather unbelievable. It was difficult to navigate the discussion in its entirety and to its conclusion (if one exists), so my question is: Was it ever resolved definitively whether User:172 and User:Cognition were really the same person? David Able 20:02, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Can you at least please give us a link to the "old discussion" you stumbled onto (or do you want us to find it by also stumbling onto it rather than going straight to it?) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:45, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- User_talk:172#Indefinitely_blocked. From what I can gather, this is related to the whole LaRouche debacle a couple of years ago: see Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Lyndon_LaRouche and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Lyndon LaRouche 2. Among other things, people were inserting material about LaRouche's view into different topics that probably really wouldn't warrant a mention of his view (i.e. the Bertrand Russel FAC: [5]). See also these ANI arcives: [6] and [7]. I wasn't around when this was going down, but the long and the short of it seems to be that the Wikipedia has put in place a de-facto ban on Lyndon LaRouche being mentioned in any articles that are not directly associated with him, and of banning any editor who is unfortunate enough to mention that he doesn't believe LaRouche should die in hell-fire. user:Cognition continued to make such insertions, and got banned. Someone decided to run a checkuser on Cognition (or maybe 127, and I can't find when that happened, but it must have been around September 2009, as that's when 127 got blocked). The weird thing is, 127's been a productive editor since forever (2002), and I guess a pretty staunch Anti-LaRouche editor (I haven't dug into his contributions much). Still, Wikipedia decides to block a productive editor because someone who can see his IP address has decided he's also an unproductive editor on another account. I have my own opinions about our blocking/banning policy, but this isn't a forum. Buddy431 (talk) 22:24, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- On a related note, this type of thing really highlights what is both one of Wikipedia's strengths, but also some of its weaknesses. Wikipedia keeps publicly viewable histories of all the edits to all its pages, (with certain exceptions like Oversight and Revision Deletion). This allows us to go back and reconstruct what's happened in the past: it's relatively hard to make all traces of some incident go away, as much as people try at times *cough* Rlevse *cough*. On the other hand, we do a pretty poor job of indexing or otherwise making this history easy to access. The history is preserved on each page, but on busy noticeboards and talkpages (where much of the action happens, so to speak), it quickly gets buried. If you're lucky, there's an archive that covers reasonably short periods of time, but even then, you're stuck searching through lots of posts that aren't necessarily related to each other. Check out Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchives, which is 2 years out of date. If you only have a vague idea of when or where something happened, God help you in trying to search the archives. Throw into this mix the one type of history that is not publicly viewable: deleted content, and trying to reconstruct what went on in the past can be pretty difficult. Buddy431 (talk) 22:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I felt a bit nosy by asking this, but it is very frustrating when you get caught up in a old thread, only to have it fizzle out with no link to any continuation of the discussion. @JoO- I didn't link to it because I wasn't really sure where to link. I stumbled onto it in the process of trying to figure out what the difference in a "ban" and a "community ban" was, and ran across a list of banned users that someone had compiled (again, I don't know the link where I was at that point), but I found myself following a random thread of links and difs through a rather muddled, but very interesting incident, only for it to stop seemingly in mid-conversation on an old ANI board. My apologies if this was confusing. I figured some "old blood" Wikipedians would remember the incident, as it seemed like it was a big deal at the time. :) David Able 00:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Which car model?
Which car model is depicted at www.dominos.de? --84.61.155.241 (talk) 20:24, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's a ZAP Xebra. See [8]. Nanonic (talk) 22:55, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
February 18
Deleting message in Facebook
Is there any way to delete a single message in a message thread in Facebook? 117.97.228.34 (talk) 05:45, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Only if you're the one that posted the comment, or it was something posted on your wall. Hover your mouse pointer over the post and a little X should appear in the upper right corner of it, which you can click to remove the post. I don't know if Facebookk's mobile phone interface offers this option. Zunaid 09:59, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- With the iPhone you just swipe sideways on your comment and a "delete" box appears... gazhiley.co.uk 14:23, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- The question is about private messages, not comments or wall posts. And the answer is no, you cannot. --Viennese Waltz 12:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Why does LibreOffice need 50,000 Euros to set up a "not for profit" organisation?
LibreOffice is trying to raise 50,000 Euros to start a not for profit organisation. This seems a bit steep, you can start a company in the UK for £100. I would certainly want to know why they need so much before donating to them. -- Q Chris (talk) 09:11, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Wild guess: lawyers' fees, trademark registration, web hosting, attending conferences and expos, office expenses, employing some admin staff? But I'm sure if you contact them they'll tell you (have you tried that?) --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- "If you want to contact representatives of The Document Foundation for questions about your donation, our spokespeople will be happy to answer your e-mail."[9]; contact info[10]. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Not for profit" just means not paying dividends to shareholders. It doesn't rule out salaries to employees, investments in buildings and projects or advertising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuddlyable3 (talk • contribs)
- "If you want to contact representatives of The Document Foundation for questions about your donation, our spokespeople will be happy to answer your e-mail."[9]; contact info[10]. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- According to their web page, To legally form The Document Foundation in Germany, a minimum of 50,000 Euros is needed. Additionally, All donations will be used for establishing The Document Foundation, and any funds remaining after the fifty-thousand euro capital stock has been accumulated will be fed directly into the future foundation's budget to cover operating expenses. They go on to explain why they want to establish the organization in Germany.
decltype
(talk) 10:17, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- It is because under German law, the charity will have to be 'supervised' by the local authority to make sure it is keeping to its charter. Local authorities obviously don't want people setting up dozens of little homes for stray cats as foundation charities.[11]--Aspro (talk) 10:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
"A woman called the BBC earlier..."
Before the Great Storm of 1987 in the UK, when Michael Fish made his infamous claim that there wouldn't be a hurricane he said a woman had called in to warn about a hurricane but, don't worry, there wouldn't be one. A woman called Anita Hart claims this was her. Is there any evidence either verifying or disproving that claim, or anything other than the youtube clip linked to on the wiki page? 130.88.162.13 (talk) 12:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- The article Great Storm of 1987 has one badly drafted and context-free reference to Anita Hart. To decide on the veracity or otherwise of her claim, we would need to see where and how she is claiming that the woman was her. --Viennese Waltz 12:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed, I was wondering if anyone know where any such information could be found. For example, what program is that youtube clip from? Looks like More4 to me, but that only narrows it down. 130.88.162.13 (talk) 12:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- There are interviews with Anita Hart in various newspaper articles including the Daily Mirror [12] and the Daily Telegraph [13], so she is real enough, but it doesn't answer the question as to whether she was the person. Mikenorton (talk) 13:02, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- This BBC article states it was Anita Hart. Dalliance (talk) 13:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- And the Independent too. Nanonic (talk) 13:14, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Tyre rolling radius
I need to work out the rolling radius of various tyres, e.g. 195/65 R15. How do I do so? Thanks! 192.150.181.62 (talk) 14:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Rolling radius? Do you mean rolling resistance? Maybe our tire size article will help you. Dismas|(talk) 14:58, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Or perhaps circumference? 2πr is what you need once you've found r, which can be derived from the ratio of width to height. Note that the circumference will gradually diminish as the tire wears. Acroterion (talk) 15:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Or do you mean the radius between the center of the tire and the patch that is in contact with the road, allowing for the flattening of the tire at that point due to the weight of the vehicle? If so, you'll need a lot more info than just the tire size. Dismas|(talk) 15:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea what I mean, I've just been told to do it, but it is rolling radius that I need. I think I have it worked out: (First number multiplied by second number divided by 100), plus ((third number multiplied by 25) divided by 2). I don't know if I'm correct but I'll just go with that. Thanks! 192.150.181.62 (talk) 15:17, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Why were you told to do it? Is this for a class? etc. That might help us understand what you need. Dismas|(talk) 15:32, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- In the example you've given, the tyre width is given by the 195 (in mm) and its aspect ratio (the tyre's height divided by its width) is 65%. So its height is 126.75 mm. The 15 tells you that it is fitted to a wheel 15" in diameter. So its radius (not taking account of changes from the flattened contact patch, inflation, etc.) is the tyre height plus half the wheel diameter = 126.75 + (15 * 25.4)/2 = 317.25mm.--Phil Holmes (talk) 17:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think he must have been told to workout the 'effective' rolling radius because 7½ inches is a little too obvious even to a grease monkey.--Aspro (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, not many people run their cars on wheels without tyres, but, as Phil said above, just add the tyre height to your 7½ inches. In practice, the pressure to which the tyre is inflated will change the effective radius, but I presume that "rolling radius" just means rolling the tyre along the ground as fitters do before fitting and pressurising the tyre. the general formula is n*m/100 + r/2 for an "n/m Rr" tyre, but you need to convert either n (given as mm) or r (given as inches) to the other units first using one inch = 25.4 mm. Dbfirs 00:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- That just muddies the waters. Have you ever understood how a Torque wrench works and how it is used? The effective rolling radius affects the torque and thus the force applied to the road surface. --Aspro (talk) 00:16, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I know about torque depending on radius, but that calculation would be much more difficult and would have a variable answer depending on tyre pressure, cornering, road surface and many other variables. Dbfirs 07:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- That just muddies the waters. Have you ever understood how a Torque wrench works and how it is used? The effective rolling radius affects the torque and thus the force applied to the road surface. --Aspro (talk) 00:16, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, not many people run their cars on wheels without tyres, but, as Phil said above, just add the tyre height to your 7½ inches. In practice, the pressure to which the tyre is inflated will change the effective radius, but I presume that "rolling radius" just means rolling the tyre along the ground as fitters do before fitting and pressurising the tyre. the general formula is n*m/100 + r/2 for an "n/m Rr" tyre, but you need to convert either n (given as mm) or r (given as inches) to the other units first using one inch = 25.4 mm. Dbfirs 00:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think he must have been told to workout the 'effective' rolling radius because 7½ inches is a little too obvious even to a grease monkey.--Aspro (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
The 317.25mm was the answer I needed, Thank you all so much! 192.150.181.62 (talk) 18:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Parking tickets on an old license plate
Hello all. My girlfriend moved to New Jersey from a different state. While she still had her old state license plates on her car, she received a parking ticket. She never paid said ticket and has since changed her license plates to Jersey plates. Can this somehow come back to bite her? Thank you in advance. --Endlessdan (talk) 15:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- This is borderline legal advice, but I think for something this minor it is fine. I think it is a possible that the ticket will eventually catch up with her. It varies form state to state, but in California, unpaid parking tickets get reported to the DMV and they will make you pay before you can renew your license (done every ten years I think). Your girlfriend probably still has here drivers license from her home state the question is: will New Jersey report this to the home state? If they don't, then she is in the clear, if they do then she will have to pay when she renews probably with some kind of fee or penalty. The penalty shouldn't be too big so I wouldn't worry about it. I received a couple of parking tickets on the UC Santa Barbara campus once, never paid them and something with the campus police system caused them to vanish. On the other hand I got a parking ticket in Italy in a rental car and it eventually caught up with me through the rental agency. This is just internet advice, so don't hold me to it if the police smash her door down and arrest her for this unpaid ticket. --Daniel 18:12, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Identifying a poem
Can you identify a poem If I quote a passage from it. e.g. Now the day is over, night is drawing nigh,shadows of the evening steal across the sky.
- Yes. That is the first verse of "Now the Day Is Over" by Sabine Baring-Gould (1834-1924). A search engine such as Google is the quickest way to answer similar queries. Gandalf61 (talk) 15:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. When searching, put the phrase you want to find in "inverted commas" (speech marks, quotation marks, or whatever you call them) and that makes the search engine look for the exact phrase. Alansplodge (talk) 18:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Space colonization
I am enrolled in a secret government program and will be teleported to Mars in a week. I also have insider knowledge that the volcanoes are going to destroy Earth in 200 years. In the meantime my Mars base will receive a steady supply of ten tons of payload and ten people from Earth per year. The life support of the base is already covered for a thousand years, at which point the equipment will begin to fail.
Funny thing is, this program is so secret that we can't risk having a sizable support team. That means that I get to decide what is shipped in from Earth. Like I already mentioned, I get 2000 tons and 2000 people over 200 years, and then we have 800 years to establish a society advanced enough to maintain our life support. I'm clueless about how to make that happen. Please help me help the mankind survive the volcanic apocalypse. --85.77.201.52 (talk) 16:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Is this some special meaning of the word "secret" of which we were previously unaware?--Shantavira|feed me 17:12, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Possibly its the kind of "secret" where they give you medication, lol. Heiro 17:17, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, there are many new meanings of "secret". My favourite is where some celebrity has the audacity to get married but not invite every journalist in the world to the wedding. The media then describe it as a "secret wedding". Which is odd because I've never heard of a wedding that was open to anyone who cared to come along. No, weddings are essentially private affairs, and if you don't get an invite, tough. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 17:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, in some Christian denominations wedding ceremonies are always public, as all wedding ceremonies must take place on church grounds, and church grounds must always be open to all. And of course wedding ceremonies on public lands are open to anyone who turns up - you can't shoo someone away from a public beach just because you've decided to get married there. --NellieBly (talk) 00:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- I know. I was at a wedding last year deep in the bowels of a sub-tropical rain forest, and 2 bushwalkers ambled along. They couldn't get past without disrupting the proceedings, so they just hung around and took in the ceremony.
- I was talking about private ceremonies at the celebrity's house, to which the guests have been invited but anybody else is not welcome - particularly prying journalists. There are plenty of witnesses and it's all above board legally. It's being done in private, but that doesn't make it "secret". -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 08:39, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- So now you can't say you "never heard of a wedding that was open to anyone who cared to come along". ¨¨¨¨
- Actually, in some Christian denominations wedding ceremonies are always public, as all wedding ceremonies must take place on church grounds, and church grounds must always be open to all. And of course wedding ceremonies on public lands are open to anyone who turns up - you can't shoo someone away from a public beach just because you've decided to get married there. --NellieBly (talk) 00:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds like a fun homework assignment. - Akamad (talk) 17:23, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- You just need to order one closed ecological system, which I shouldn't think needs to weigh as much as 2,000 tons. You probably don't need most of the 2,000 people, unless you're going to mulch them. Here is the Colonization of Mars article. 213.122.39.16 (talk) 17:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Your most compelling need will be for power, so you should ship a nuclear reactor and a whole bunch of fuel to run it. Your next need will be for a variety of materials such as iron, silicon, carbon, etc, but there's no way you will be able to ship adequate amounts of these, so you'll need to ship mining equipment that can get power from your nuclear reactor. If you can't find Martian sources for the basic materials you need, you're screwed. You'll also need some refining equipment, machine tools and such so that you can fabricate parts from the materials you mine. Finally you'll need to ship as much computer equipment as you can crowd in, because making modern computer chips requires far more resources than you'll be able to get until you have a large society up and running. Looie496 (talk) 18:53, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- You will probable find Critical path & Program Evaluation and Review software very useful for planning this. Don't forget to include sufficient condom manufacturing capacity. I would be very happy to supply a list of politicians, celebrities, telephone sanitizers and the like, for you to take with you as your companions. Bon voyage.--Aspro (talk) 19:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Noted earlier was an idea to ship some kind of nuclear reactor, but I have a couple of doubts about that. First, you are not going to have a large water supply with which to cool your reactor, and the large quantities of lead shielding will use up a lot of your available cargo. I am not sure, but I think several hundred tons of solar panels might be a better bet for supplying your power needs. Googlemeister (talk) 20:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Water? A nuclear powered Stirling heat engine is quite capable of radiating wast heat into space on the way there and on Mar it can be used for melting ice. Mar is very cold (its minus 50 on a warm day), so the waste heat will be very useful. NASA has had them running for thousands of hours already [14]. Solar panels will hardly supply the all the power the colonists will need for their cannabis lamp and hydroponics systems (remember, the DEA is going to get roasted along with the rest of us).--Aspro (talk) 20:47, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I might add also that a Plutonium-238 heat source will not necessarily require much shielding for the reasons given here.--Aspro (talk) 21:13, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Water? A nuclear powered Stirling heat engine is quite capable of radiating wast heat into space on the way there and on Mar it can be used for melting ice. Mar is very cold (its minus 50 on a warm day), so the waste heat will be very useful. NASA has had them running for thousands of hours already [14]. Solar panels will hardly supply the all the power the colonists will need for their cannabis lamp and hydroponics systems (remember, the DEA is going to get roasted along with the rest of us).--Aspro (talk) 20:47, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Noted earlier was an idea to ship some kind of nuclear reactor, but I have a couple of doubts about that. First, you are not going to have a large water supply with which to cool your reactor, and the large quantities of lead shielding will use up a lot of your available cargo. I am not sure, but I think several hundred tons of solar panels might be a better bet for supplying your power needs. Googlemeister (talk) 20:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Think the OP ought to his skates on and start packing. According to this, the Yellowstone super-volcano may be in "early stages" of eruption! I'd like to see how The Doctor and Amy Pond is going to get us out of this one. --Aspro (talk) 21:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Can you imagine what will happen if Los Angeles is hit with a 9.0 quake, New York City is destroyed by a terrorist-planted atomic bomb, World War III breaks out in the Middle East, the banks and the stock markets collapse, Extraterrestrials land on the White House lawn, food disappears from the markets, some people disappear, the Messiah presents himself to the world, and all in a very short period of time?" That's a hell of a pitch for a movie! DuncanHill (talk) 22:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah! Spielberg has another box office hit on his hands. Its laughing all the way to the bank time. Shame about Los Angeles though. Still, you can't make omelettes without braking a few eggs. --Aspro (talk) 23:06, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Can you imagine what will happen if Los Angeles is hit with a 9.0 quake, New York City is destroyed by a terrorist-planted atomic bomb, World War III breaks out in the Middle East, the banks and the stock markets collapse, Extraterrestrials land on the White House lawn, food disappears from the markets, some people disappear, the Messiah presents himself to the world, and all in a very short period of time?" That's a hell of a pitch for a movie! DuncanHill (talk) 22:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Think the OP ought to his skates on and start packing. According to this, the Yellowstone super-volcano may be in "early stages" of eruption! I'd like to see how The Doctor and Amy Pond is going to get us out of this one. --Aspro (talk) 21:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
We have decided to not take you. schyler (talk) 21:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Ah. Are you going too... excellent! --Aspro (talk) 21:16, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Don't for get to close the hatch before you light the blue touch paper.--Aspro (talk) 21:18, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Don't forget to take some classics to read like The Little Match Girl. Mind you, if you left this author's works behind... it would allow you to joke Look Ma... No Hans :-)--Aspro (talk) 22:27, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Um I do hope all of you realise we left yesterday... If you're still typing from earth, well you should have realised when we said secret, we didn't mean to talk about it on the RD. As for those wondering about the OP, they found out by accident. We considered eliminating them but decided we could push up our plans by a few days instead so gave them a meaningless task to distract them while we went about our plans in actual secret. As they proved by posting here (we considered oversight but that was annoying because we'd need to hire someone to eliminate the oversighter then someone to eliminate that person, then someone...), they weren't a good fit for the mission... Nil Einne (talk) 13:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Don't forget to take some classics to read like The Little Match Girl. Mind you, if you left this author's works behind... it would allow you to joke Look Ma... No Hans :-)--Aspro (talk) 22:27, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Don't for get to close the hatch before you light the blue touch paper.--Aspro (talk) 21:18, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
You all do realize that this is part of a greater plot, right? after all the excitable multitudes will demand being teleported to Mars, the earth will be a relatively empty and pretty happy place for the rest of us who decide to stay. --Ludwigs2 23:17, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Shush! What's got into you? Do you want everybody to know? Lets wave goodbye (and bid good riddance) to the parasites that blight this planet first, before we let on about our greater plan! P.S. You have a yellow discus thingy after you're comment. Citizens that resort to such subliminal signaling will find themselves on spaceship Number Two!--Aspro (talk) 23:39, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- PPS. Those who write "you're" (short for "you are") where a simple possessive pronoun "your" would suffice will be defenestrated into the outer darkness where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth, and will probably miss their chance to be teleported to Mars. :) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 08:39, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Excellent. I haven't witnessed a good defenestration for years. Could be a real problem for the subject if it's done on a space ship. HiLo48 (talk) 10:58, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes that was one of the cover stories to distract those we decided to leave behind. (We couldn't tell everyone they were in charge of deciding what to ship!) Thanks for posting it here thereby proving you were worth of the story. Nil Einne (talk) 13:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- PPS. Those who write "you're" (short for "you are") where a simple possessive pronoun "your" would suffice will be defenestrated into the outer darkness where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth, and will probably miss their chance to be teleported to Mars. :) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 08:39, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Mars is already occupied,you've screwed the pooch.Ulla..Hotclaws (talk) 20:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Shouldn't be a problem, we'll just enlist the help of the humblest thing on Earth, our microscopic allies - bacteria. Minute, invisible bacteria. TomorrowTime (talk) 08:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Justin Bieber film(UK)
Hopefully from someone who's been to see the wretched thing,which film trailers play before the actual screening of the movie?I've been asked to find out,but I would rather not spend my money on queuing up for ages with a load of squawking girls to watch him poncing around :) Lemon martini (talk) 22:20, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, I feel for you. One gets to eighteen and then suddenly.. you're zooming down-hill into middle age and finding an affinity for woollen cardigans and Val Doonican records. Oh, they don't make records like that any more. --Aspro (talk) 22:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- And it's hard to find genuine woollen cardigans these days. HiLo48 (talk) 07:51, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- You are so right! The wife attended an agricultural show last summer and there was this geyser there that had trained a flock of sheep to leap over fences. When I asked her why she had bought one of these ewes, she replied that my mother had said to her, that I could do with a new woolly jumper and this was the the first time she has seen any. --Aspro (talk) 23:42, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- And it's hard to find genuine woollen cardigans these days. HiLo48 (talk) 07:51, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Just imagine what it is like when you are 80 and wish you you were 18 again!--85.211.161.177 (talk) 07:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- What film trailers are screened before the film would depend on the film or time of day, surely, along with ads if there were any. I'm not really sure what your question is. Are you looking for the trailer of the film? Or for film trailers in general? Chevymontecarlo 15:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Are you sure about that? Many times people have gone to see just the trailer of a film and then left before the film that they paid to see began. This has happened for films in the Star Trek, Star Wars, and Lord of the Rings franchises. It can really help a so-so movie just to have the trailer for a much more popular and anticipated movie shown before the main feature. Dismas|(talk) 15:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- It occurs to me that not all theatres that are showing Movie A will necessarily be showing Movie B, so in general it would not be the case that the screening of the same movie at different theatres will be preceded by the same previews of other movies. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 16:46, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Are you sure about that? Many times people have gone to see just the trailer of a film and then left before the film that they paid to see began. This has happened for films in the Star Trek, Star Wars, and Lord of the Rings franchises. It can really help a so-so movie just to have the trailer for a much more popular and anticipated movie shown before the main feature. Dismas|(talk) 15:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- What film trailers are screened before the film would depend on the film or time of day, surely, along with ads if there were any. I'm not really sure what your question is. Are you looking for the trailer of the film? Or for film trailers in general? Chevymontecarlo 15:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
February 19
TDSB Canadian Football program
Which high schools of Toronto District School Board has Canadian Football program? So far, I know that York Memorial, East York, Leaside, Etobicoke, Richview and Martingrove have their Canadian football program?
- Well this is a list of the current standings and here is a list of all the secondary schools in the TDSB. Easy enough to match them up. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 20:21, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Gee....thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.151.231 (talk) 15:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
introduction to business
what does it mean to say that quantity is “design into”a product.
- That exact wording is gibberish: you probably meant to type
- ". . . quantity is "designed into" a product."
- but have failed to amend the grammar when (as I suspect) you paraphrased your homework question.
- However, I suggest you recheck the original question, which very likely actually reads
- ". . . quality is designed into a product."
- This is a common concept, whereas designing quantity into a product is not, although it could be a rather strange way of referring to something related but different. If "quality" is really the issue, come back and confirm that that's so and we can point you in the right direction. Also, please sign your posts by typing four tildes (a tilde is this ~) in a row at the end: the system will automatically convert that into a source, time and date; otherwise we don't know who's saying what when. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree what was meant was "quality is designed into a product". 92.15.16.146 (talk) 13:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- That simply means it's designed to look like a (high) quality product, even if it isn't. See Quality (business).--Shantavira|feed me 13:38, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Another interpretation of the quality statement is "quality is not an afterthought; we had quality in mind when we began designing our widgets, and quality influenced our decisions about materials, function, and so forth." I'm not disagreeing with Shantavira, whose suggestion focuses mainly on appearance ("make it look like a quality product"), only saying that other messages are possible. I'm also not saying the statement is necessarily true. It could simply be a marketing claim, or an article of faith (and what is faith without good works?).
- The only sense I can make out of quantity being designed in would be something like "we designed our product to hold (or produce) a large quantity of" whatever the product holds or produces. "When we planned the MegaTrolley shopping cart, we designed it to hold such a quantity of groceries that you'd need a second car to take them all home." --- OtherDave (talk) 14:13, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Just a guess: Quantity is designed into a product may refer to the typical modular design of consumer goods. If you need to repair a car / a PC / whatever, the procedure is to remove the faulty module X0 and replace it with a new module X1. If you own a Stradivarius or a Jugendstil desk (where quantity is not designed into the product) your luthier / arty carpenter will charge more than the price of a cheap fiddle / an IKEA desk. In simple terms, quantity is in the design of the common house brick, it is not in the design of the pendant vault of Henry VII's chapel at Westminster Abbey. Not surprisingly, there are more house bricks than fan vaults. --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Quantity is designed in . . . " could also imply that the product had been designed to maximise the ease of making it in large quantities (as in the case of cars produced on production lines by the likes of GM, as opposed to cars essentially hand-built as MG's originally were), but as I implied in my initial response, it seems likely that the OP misread the original question. "Quality is designed in . . .", as OtherDave's first para says, generally implies (truthfully or otherwise) that the design of a product incorporates considerations of quality from the outset, rather than these being added as an afterthought. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 00:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Just a guess: Quantity is designed into a product may refer to the typical modular design of consumer goods. If you need to repair a car / a PC / whatever, the procedure is to remove the faulty module X0 and replace it with a new module X1. If you own a Stradivarius or a Jugendstil desk (where quantity is not designed into the product) your luthier / arty carpenter will charge more than the price of a cheap fiddle / an IKEA desk. In simple terms, quantity is in the design of the common house brick, it is not in the design of the pendant vault of Henry VII's chapel at Westminster Abbey. Not surprisingly, there are more house bricks than fan vaults. --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Presure exerted on a brake disk under emergency braking situation
I have a university assignment due in yesterday, and I'm just finishing up now. My biggest source of worry is I get ~1.75 bar for the pressure on a brake disk when emergency braking, but when my friends worked it out together they got ~70 bar. The force we exerted was 300N on the pedal, which gave 100bar pressure. The master cylinder diameter is 16mm, the brake calliper cylinder is 39mm, the brake pad contact area is 3400mm^2. My calculations are: Using the knowledge that no pressure is lost in a closed system, and the diagram (right), I know that F1/A1=F2/A2. From that I can I know that F2=(F1/A1)A2. I know the force I put in, as measured in experiment 1, and I can calculate the necessary areas from the two diameters measured earlier and the formula A=πr². From this information, the knowledge that pressure is equal to force divided by area, and the total contact area between the brake pads and disc, I can calculate the pressure. F1=100N, A1=π*8², A2=π*19.5² – therefore we can find the force F2 to find the pressure. F2=(100/(π*0.008²))*(π*0.0195²)=594.140625. Pressure=F2/3.4*10-3=174742N/m². Pressure = 174742/105=1.75bar. Does that seem reasonable? Thanks! 192.150.181.62 (talk) 13:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
zippo lighters
i have a zippo windproof lighter that is black with a white playboy bunny on it dated june 2005. my question is about the bottom of the lighter being gold in color. is this a collectors item or a special edition? i have never seen one made like this.76.242.185.96 (talk) 19:18, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Is it brass? There are brass Zippos about and it's possible they used brass as a foundation for the enamalled finish.Hotclaws (talk) 20:52, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- I expect that there will be collectors for this sort of thing, but I suppose you want to know how much it is worth. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:21, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Jewish online shop closed on Saturday
I tried today to buy online from a well-known Jewish provider of photographic material and surprise: it closes on Saturdays. The funny thing is that you cannot order, but you can browse the catalogue. Even if I understand that Jews don't work on Saturdays, they wouldn't be working, if they left the server taking orders or if they let non-Jewish do the work, would they? Where in the Torah does it say that something about online shops? Quest09 (talk) 19:52, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- First, when thinking about Shabbat laws, it's not a Biblical issue but a Rabbinical one. Big difference: it means you don't go looking around the Torah for them — you look at the agreement of Rabbis who have looked around the Torah for them. You look at the evolution of decisions over the years, you don't refer back to the original too often. (Judaism is not a "do it yourself" religion like a number of sects of Protestantism are.)
- Commerce is generally prohibited on Shabbat, as I understand it. As for whether e-commerce is prohibited, I think it is still an open issue. There is a very thoughtful discussion of this here by a Rabbi, which notes that depending on what model of commerce you assume e-commerce resembles (e.g. is it like a physical store, or is it like a vending machine?), you get different answers. --Mr.98 (talk) 22:15, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- That would be strictly a decision of the owners, who have apparently decided that they can afford not to allow Saturday shopping. I've known Jewish merchants who kept their stores open on Saturdays because most of their customers were Christian and Saturday is typically shopping day for Christians. The Jewish proprietors, though, might take Saturdays off and leave Gentiles in charge of running the store that day. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:48, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia of course has an article about the Shabbos goy, who takes charge while the proprietor can't. PhGustaf (talk) 08:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
February 20
Why Doesn't the recoil from Handguns hurt?
Although I have never been shot by a bullet, I've read anecdotes on the web that being shot with a handgun bullet while wearing a bulletproof best is similar to being struck by a sledgehammer or a baseball bat. From Newton's Third Law would this not mean that the recoil of the gun would feel equal or more than being hit by a sledgehammer/bat? Having fired handguns, I do not feel like I'm being hit by a sledgehammer each time I pull the trigger. Acceptable (talk) 02:50, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of cross-posting this to the science desk, asking any answers to be posted here.CS Miller (talk) 17:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think the sledgehammer analogy might be a bit extreme, though a large mass at low speed has the same momentum as a small mass at high speed (with mass and speed in inverse proportions). Even a magnum bullet will impart a momentum of less than an inch per second to a human body. The film cliche of people being thrown back by the momentum of a handgun bullet is entirely false. The baseball bat analogy is better because a bullet can certainly cause a painful bruise, even when it doesn't penetrate the skin. If you've ever fired a shotgun holding it a distance from your shoulder, you'll know that the recoil momentum can be as painful as that of a baseball bat. Dbfirs 08:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- You might get a better answer on the Science Reference Desk, but here are some reasons that are kind of interconnected. First, I guess that a bullet that is stopped by a bulletproof vest stops in a couple of inches. A handgun usually has a barrel length of at least 4", which means that the force needed to accelerate/decelerate the bullet is much larger on the receiving end. Also, how the recoil feels doesn't really depend on the kinetic energy or the momentum of the weapon, but more on the maximum speed of the weapon during the recoil. If you fire identical cartridges from a light and a heavy weapon the recoil will be much more powerful with the lighter weapon. A handgun weighs about two pounds and a rifle considerably more, but when you're hit by a bullet the momentum is absorbed by the parts of the vest and of your body that are displaced by the bullet. Guessing again, i would say that's a few ounces which means that those parts will move faster. Thirdly, weapons are designed to distribute the recoil over as large an area as possible and as comfortably as possible, given all other design parameters. Lastly, expectations might have something to do with it. When you fire a weapon you know what to expect, but you usually don't when you're hit by a bullet.Sjö (talk) 09:33, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Come to think of it, another reason probably is that your hands are rather sturdy. They are the body parts you use to push, lift and strike so it should be expected that the same amount of force applied to your hands or to your torso would cause much less discomfort to your hands. Compare delivering a palm strike to receiving one.Sjö (talk) 12:26, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about hand-guns, but with shot-guns, if you don't hold the butt firmly against your shoulder, when you fire the gun, the recoil will accelerate the gun into your shoulder, and can cause a bad bruise. If you do hold the butt tightly against your shoulder, then the butt and your shoulder accelerate as one, and does not cause bruising. Extrapolating from this, if you hold the grip of a hand gun tightly against the fleshy part of your palm, then the gun will accelerate your palm, wrist, and lower arm as one. CS Miller (talk) 17:24, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- That makes sense in the light that the projectile accelerates (and thus the gun pushes in the opposite direction) for the whole length of the barrel. The impulse to the shoulder is over a longer period of time if the butt is against the shoulder the whole time, as opposed to letting the gun to accelerate to full speed and then hit the shoulder. --85.77.201.52 (talk) 16:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about hand-guns, but with shot-guns, if you don't hold the butt firmly against your shoulder, when you fire the gun, the recoil will accelerate the gun into your shoulder, and can cause a bad bruise. If you do hold the butt tightly against your shoulder, then the butt and your shoulder accelerate as one, and does not cause bruising. Extrapolating from this, if you hold the grip of a hand gun tightly against the fleshy part of your palm, then the gun will accelerate your palm, wrist, and lower arm as one. CS Miller (talk) 17:24, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- This section of the Recoil article may be helpful, but I believe CS Miller is correct (I can personally attest to the bruising left by an improperly held shotgun). I know that people have had their thumbs torn half off by a handgun slide due to improper grip, so there is a obviously a large amount of force being sent backwards, but when a handgun is properly held there isn't a gap between the gun and your body, so it can't STRIKE you, instead it accerates your whole limb. i.m.canadian (talk) 18:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Do US soldiers get to keep guns after military?
Do soldiers in the US military get to keep their service rifles and handguns after retirement or discharge? Acceptable (talk) 02:50, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- No, I don't think so. There is a program for veterns to get a gun, one person recived their gun that they had put their initals in back throught this progrem. Sumsum2010·T·C·Review me! 03:01, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- No. Weapons belong to the unit, so a soldier may go through several different weapons in their career. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 03:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- The OP is Canadian, does Canada have such a custom? I know that Switzerland does allow each former soldier to keep their weapon (so, the country is well protected, even being much smaller than its neighbors). 212.169.189.114 (talk) 04:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I really doubted that Switzerland did that, but it appears they do [15] if the soldier fulfills some conditions and pays a fee of 60 or 100 CHF depending on the model (approx. the same in USD). Interesting.Sjö (talk) 12:34, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Many people don't associate Switzerland with weapon in the hands of civilians, but yes, many Swiss have a SIG_SG_550 in their basement. 81.47.150.216 (talk) 14:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- @212.169.189.114 The gun control laws in Canada are much stricter than in the US, so many military firearms would be prohibited regardless of whether the individual was formerly a soldier. Oddly enough, though, I don't see Colt Canada among the list of proscribed firearms in that article and they're the ones that make the small arms for the Canadian military. Matt Deres (talk) 17:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I imagine Colt Canada isn't on that list due to the fact the C7 is already prohibited under the more all-encompassing condition that it is an automatic weapon. As for the CF issued sidearm, the answer for the OP would be no for the same reason Gadget850 mentioned for US troops. i.m.canadian (talk) 18:54, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- I really doubted that Switzerland did that, but it appears they do [15] if the soldier fulfills some conditions and pays a fee of 60 or 100 CHF depending on the model (approx. the same in USD). Interesting.Sjö (talk) 12:34, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- The OP is Canadian, does Canada have such a custom? I know that Switzerland does allow each former soldier to keep their weapon (so, the country is well protected, even being much smaller than its neighbors). 212.169.189.114 (talk) 04:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've heard many stories about soldiers returning with weapons after WW2, but whether the majority of those were bought or found oversees is unclear to me, as is the legal particulars of that. Modern military personnel in the U.S. are not given firearms when they return to civilian life as far as I know. Shadowjams (talk) 11:01, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe they were allowed to keep them after WW2, due to the huge number of them? Sumsum2010·T·C·Review me! 22:09, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
U.S. one dollar bill
This denomination has not been redesigned in recent years, although all of the other denominations have. Why is this? When will it happen? Hemoroid Agastordoff (talk) 03:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- One likely reason is that $1 bills are hardly ever counterfeited. So why over protect what isn't going to be stolen. Dismas|(talk) 03:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe there are plans to replace it with a coin, as most other countries have now done for currency of that value. HiLo48 (talk) 04:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- The United States has made some very halfhearted efforts to replace the dollar bill with a coin for some time now. The most recent push began with minting Sacagawea dollar coins about ten years ago, however these dollar coins are still encountered only in vending machines. Unlike most other countries which have adopted a dollar coin (compare Canadian 1 dollar coin and Australian 1 dollar note, for example), the United States has not withdrawn the dollar banknote from circulation, and there has therefore been no reason for businesses or the general public to adopt the coin. (See also Dollar coin (United States), Save the Greenback.) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 05:58, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think the "most recent push" was with the Presidential $1 Coin, and we even have an article specific to that - Presidential $1 Coin Program. --LarryMac | Talk 18:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- No reason? Do Americans really think that other countries had no reason to change? How about space and tidiness? HiLo48 (talk) 06:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- In general, the US isn't influenced much by the rationale of other countries, and consistency with "furriners" is likely to hurt an argument's cause, rather than help it (c.f. the metric system). Regarding space, volumetricly, the US dollar bill doesn't take up any more space than the US dollar coins (it's wider, but it's also thinner) and for tidiness, most Americans would probably view a billfold full of stacked dollar bills as tidier than a pocket or coin purse full of loose dollar coins, all mixed together with quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. (Indeed, when I pay $6.30 for something in cash, pulling the $5 and $1 bills takes much less time than fishing in my pockets to find the quarter and nickel.) -- 174.21.250.120 (talk) 18:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- What!? You mean you don't hand over two $5 bills and say "Keep the change"? Have we all been misled by all those American movies in which coins don't seem to exist, or if they do, they're of no interest to the characters? I wonder if there's a connection between "We don't like change" and "We don't like change". Hmmm ... -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 18:21, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Buddha taught that change must come from within. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 22:00, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- In general, the US isn't influenced much by the rationale of other countries, and consistency with "furriners" is likely to hurt an argument's cause, rather than help it (c.f. the metric system). Regarding space, volumetricly, the US dollar bill doesn't take up any more space than the US dollar coins (it's wider, but it's also thinner) and for tidiness, most Americans would probably view a billfold full of stacked dollar bills as tidier than a pocket or coin purse full of loose dollar coins, all mixed together with quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. (Indeed, when I pay $6.30 for something in cash, pulling the $5 and $1 bills takes much less time than fishing in my pockets to find the quarter and nickel.) -- 174.21.250.120 (talk) 18:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Unlikely. The biggest problem with a standardized US dollar coin is the fact that most American cash registers don't have slots for dollar coins. Corvus cornixtalk 06:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Guess what? The same applied in every other country before they changed. HiLo48 (talk) 06:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Americans don't like to change. Our currency is all dull green, it's only just now added subtle color variations. :) Corvus cornixtalk 07:49, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think you've just taken the wisest approach with that first sentence. Any attempt to apply other logic tends to fail on these matters. HiLo48 (talk) 08:08, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- If we can take a quick break from projecting our nationalistic prejudices onto currency... you might be interested in the Coins of the United States dollar, for the 3 types of dollar coins in circulation in the U.S., and read the Treasury's official page on currency, [16]. By the way the OP only asked about the dollar bill. I personally find the lack of single denomination bills in Europe annoying, as I don't like a pocket full of change. But what do I know, as a resistant to change American. Shadowjams (talk) 10:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps the purpose of the dollar comes into things here. From my admittedly and sadly limited experience inside the USA, I'd say that one of the major uses of dollar bills is for tipping. In places where that is not so common (the rest of the world?) maybe one doesn't need to carry so many coins of that denomination. HiLo48 (talk) 15:29, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- The 2-cent Euro coin is especially irritating. Adam Bishop (talk) 12:36, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Why? I will say that in Australia, where the one and two cent coins have been abolished, the five cent coin, perhaps the equivalent of the 2-cent Euro, seems t be facing the same threat. HiLo48 (talk) 15:29, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think in most systems the lowest-value item of currency is always going to be next cab off the rank for abolition, so its life expectancy is always a little less certain than the others. I note that supermarkets like to keep their prices all nice and neat for the convenience of their dear customers, and rather than fussing with those pesky cents, they'll raise the price of an item from, say, $8 a kilo straight to $9 a kilo. How very thoughtful of them. Which bodes ill for any coin less than $1. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 17:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's interesting because British supermarkets still think they can fool their customers with £7.99 and £8.99 (or perhaps they like to give pennies in change?) Dbfirs 23:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think in most systems the lowest-value item of currency is always going to be next cab off the rank for abolition, so its life expectancy is always a little less certain than the others. I note that supermarkets like to keep their prices all nice and neat for the convenience of their dear customers, and rather than fussing with those pesky cents, they'll raise the price of an item from, say, $8 a kilo straight to $9 a kilo. How very thoughtful of them. Which bodes ill for any coin less than $1. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 17:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Why? I will say that in Australia, where the one and two cent coins have been abolished, the five cent coin, perhaps the equivalent of the 2-cent Euro, seems t be facing the same threat. HiLo48 (talk) 15:29, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- The OP might be interested in reading our Save the Greenback and Coin Coalition articles, which are on two organisations that take the opposite stance on this matter. We also have an efforts to eliminate the penny in the United States article, which is also relevant. CS Miller (talk) 12:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- If we can take a quick break from projecting our nationalistic prejudices onto currency... you might be interested in the Coins of the United States dollar, for the 3 types of dollar coins in circulation in the U.S., and read the Treasury's official page on currency, [16]. By the way the OP only asked about the dollar bill. I personally find the lack of single denomination bills in Europe annoying, as I don't like a pocket full of change. But what do I know, as a resistant to change American. Shadowjams (talk) 10:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think you've just taken the wisest approach with that first sentence. Any attempt to apply other logic tends to fail on these matters. HiLo48 (talk) 08:08, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Americans don't like to change. Our currency is all dull green, it's only just now added subtle color variations. :) Corvus cornixtalk 07:49, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Guess what? The same applied in every other country before they changed. HiLo48 (talk) 06:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- The United States has made some very halfhearted efforts to replace the dollar bill with a coin for some time now. The most recent push began with minting Sacagawea dollar coins about ten years ago, however these dollar coins are still encountered only in vending machines. Unlike most other countries which have adopted a dollar coin (compare Canadian 1 dollar coin and Australian 1 dollar note, for example), the United States has not withdrawn the dollar banknote from circulation, and there has therefore been no reason for businesses or the general public to adopt the coin. (See also Dollar coin (United States), Save the Greenback.) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 05:58, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe there are plans to replace it with a coin, as most other countries have now done for currency of that value. HiLo48 (talk) 04:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Anecdote - I (a non USA resident) gave a dollar coin as a tip once. The guy thought I was being cheap until I pointed out it was a DOLLAR coin - he'd never had one before. Exxolon (talk) 16:42, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- One problem that nobody has yet mentioned (although the anecdote above hints at it) is that all the recent attempts at introducing a dollar coin have involved something with size and shape similar to a quarter. It's annoying to have to examine something closely to tell what its value is. Looie496 (talk) 17:32, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I had a similar reaction with a bum a number of years ago. Didn't understand what I had given him until I explained it. Dismas|(talk) 17:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I just recently got a Susan B. Anthony dollar coin in change, and didn't even notice it till I got home, and apparently the person who gave it to me thought they were giving me a quarter. Corvus cornixtalk 19:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I had the same bewildering response to a dollar coin given as
changea tip - in central Washington D.C. of all places! - Personally, I found carrying a wad of $1 bills around for tipping purposes pretty unsanitary, especially given that they are paper notes. Coins or, as we have in Australia, plastic bank notes, at least don't feel so grubby. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 20:14, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I had the same bewildering response to a dollar coin given as
- I just recently got a Susan B. Anthony dollar coin in change, and didn't even notice it till I got home, and apparently the person who gave it to me thought they were giving me a quarter. Corvus cornixtalk 19:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I can't wait until the dollar bill is phased out. The dollar buys so little that it doesn't belong in my wallet with my folding money.
- While we're at it, let's phase out the penny, so that overall our pockets will be lighter. APL (talk) 20:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps tellingly, the only place I've gotten dollar coins (unless you ask for them at the bank) is as change from the Post Office. Shadowjams (talk) 20:47, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- It tells you that they're not in popular use.
- Other nation's "one" coins didn't become popular until they stopped producing the bills.
- A few years later the people of those nation are so used to it that they think we're crazy for still having dollar bills.
- Clearly we just need to take the plunge. APL (talk) 20:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps tellingly, the only place I've gotten dollar coins (unless you ask for them at the bank) is as change from the Post Office. Shadowjams (talk) 20:47, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- There's a lot of WP:RECENTISM in this thread! Truth is, one-dollar coins have never been popular in the United States, including when they were silver dollars that were the largest coin minted in the US. (Possibly partially for that very reason.) Our Dollar coin (United States) article soft-pedals this a little in the intro, only stating that dollar coins have been unpopular since the early 1900s. It does refer to the Save the Greenback (previously linked above) group, which does sound pretty dumb. Comet Tuttle (talk) 00:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- The main problem with the old-old silver dollars was how heavy they were. And that's still a factor. The weight of a dollar bill is nothing compared with even a Sacagawea coin or a "Susie". One comment I saw some years ago is that the Europeans, having switched from bills to coins, has forced men to carry "purses" to carry their heavy coins in. It's one thing to have a dollar coin or two, which you can dispose of as soon as you buy something. But to have only dollar coins available is something Americans would likely resist. The average American male is not too keen on carrying a purse (although backpacks have become popular as a unisex kind of "purse"). The fact that Europeans and Canadians remained silent while this change was forced on them, does not cut much mustard with American. As noted above, if anything it would tend to make us more resistant. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Don't Americans and/or Europeans have access to wallets...? Vimescarrot (talk) 08:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sure, that's where you keep folding money, and a few coins. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Digression on how people carry their money in Europe. In the UK, men usually keep notes and credit cards in a wallet, coins in trouser pocket. Women keep notes, cards and coins in a "purse", within a "handbag". In continental Europe men are more likely to carry "manbags", little handbags - that's because they are required to, or find it convenient to, have their identity papers with them. Two-pound coins, and two-euro coins are heavy, but they don't annoy us so much as the small change. Itsmejudith (talk) 10:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Change was often carried in pockets in the old days (hence the term "deep pockets") and wearing suspenders guarded against the weight pulling one's pants down. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:29, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- You'd get some funny looks if you tried holding your trousers up with suspenders in Britain. DuncanHill (talk) 16:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, that confused-by-a-common-language thing again. What USAians call "suspenders", Brits call "braces". What Brits call "suspenders", USAians call "garter belts". Which are rarely worn in the USA, except by lumberjacks. PhGustaf (talk) 19:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Only if they're working in the Canadian Rockies, though. That sort of behaviour would be frowned upon in the staid old USA. :) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, that confused-by-a-common-language thing again. What USAians call "suspenders", Brits call "braces". What Brits call "suspenders", USAians call "garter belts". Which are rarely worn in the USA, except by lumberjacks. PhGustaf (talk) 19:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- You'd get some funny looks if you tried holding your trousers up with suspenders in Britain. DuncanHill (talk) 16:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Change was often carried in pockets in the old days (hence the term "deep pockets") and wearing suspenders guarded against the weight pulling one's pants down. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:29, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Digression on how people carry their money in Europe. In the UK, men usually keep notes and credit cards in a wallet, coins in trouser pocket. Women keep notes, cards and coins in a "purse", within a "handbag". In continental Europe men are more likely to carry "manbags", little handbags - that's because they are required to, or find it convenient to, have their identity papers with them. Two-pound coins, and two-euro coins are heavy, but they don't annoy us so much as the small change. Itsmejudith (talk) 10:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sure, that's where you keep folding money, and a few coins. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Don't Americans and/or Europeans have access to wallets...? Vimescarrot (talk) 08:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- The main problem with the old-old silver dollars was how heavy they were. And that's still a factor. The weight of a dollar bill is nothing compared with even a Sacagawea coin or a "Susie". One comment I saw some years ago is that the Europeans, having switched from bills to coins, has forced men to carry "purses" to carry their heavy coins in. It's one thing to have a dollar coin or two, which you can dispose of as soon as you buy something. But to have only dollar coins available is something Americans would likely resist. The average American male is not too keen on carrying a purse (although backpacks have become popular as a unisex kind of "purse"). The fact that Europeans and Canadians remained silent while this change was forced on them, does not cut much mustard with American. As noted above, if anything it would tend to make us more resistant. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I can't help thinking that this has a lot to do with the American custom of tipping, much rarer in the countries whose currency the USA's has been compared with here. If all you do with dollars is buy stuff, a small, practical size is used. If you use them for tipping, you want them to be larger and conspicuous so that your generosity is more noticeable. HiLo48 (talk) 19:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Good point. In Vegas, the custom is for tourists to tip (or "toke") at every opportunity, and the usual way to do this is with a pocketful of dollar chips. No toke, and the cocktail waitress won't be back any time soon. PhGustaf (talk) 19:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Carrying coins around is annoying. The only thing I do with change is dump it into a jar at the end of each day until it's full enough to bring to the bank. Unless the choice to use bills is taken away, I don't see myself ever switching. For me, it has nothing to do with simply being resistant to change (not the currency variety) or wanting my tips to be noticed (seriously? on that suggestion...) If dollar bills caused my wallet to be too full, I'd still prefer a slim money clip full of ones in my front pocket to a sloppy jingling pile of change. --Onorem♠Dil 20:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- They put fob pockets in men's trousers precisely to have a convenient place for coins and to stop them jingling around in your main pocket and weighing you down. But, just as you wouldn't normally have $1,000 in $10 notes in your wallet, you wouldn't have more than half a dozen coins in your fob. It doesn't hold many more than that anyway, depending on the size of the coins. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- You don't have to carry $100 in $1 coins in other countries, but in the US tipping using $1 bills is ubiquitous and so if they converted to $1 coins wholesale they'd have to either change the way they tip or carry a big load of coins in one's pocket - probably a lot more than a fob pocket or even a pocket can hold.
- So you see, changing this tipping culture not only leads to more equitable pay conditions, it also paves the way towards dollar coins becoming accepted! --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 21:15, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- And everybody would have to start wearing Levi's jeans with the pocket rivets, to keep the weight of all of the coins from ripping out the pockets. :) Corvus cornixtalk 21:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Typographic guidelines for technical documents
I'm looking for guidelines for formatting technical documents. If there are commonly adopted design choices and conventions in graphic design, I'd like to know about them. A few specific things I'm looking for guidelines on:
- Font size & style of section headings at various levels, relative to the font size of the body text (e.g. em-width, x-height, ...)
- Spacing between the end of one section and the header of the next
- Spacing between a section header and the body text
- Line spacing
- Spacing between paragraphs
- In a section heading, the spacing and separator character between the section number and the text of the heading
For each of the dimensions, I'd like to know what other dimensions they should be keyed to, so that proper adjustments can be made when the body text font is changed. It'd be good if the rationale behind the choices are explained.
Thanks in advance. --96.227.60.254 (talk) 12:46, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- One of the simpler styles embedded in Microsoft Word might be suitable. It probably depends on the technical field you are thinking of. Say it is electronic engineering, could you get hold of some documents in a library and see how they are laid out? Itsmejudith (talk) 10:17, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- It WILL depend on the specific field. If your technical document falls under the physical sciences then our article on manuals of style would suggest the American Chemical Society's style guide would be appropriate, though if by technical you're referring to computing or engineering documents there doesn't seem to be a specific guide listed on our page for that. i.m.canadian (talk) 19:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
What is the nerve of latarjet and is it preserved in vagotomy?
what is the nerve of latarjet a branch of and what does it supply? what is its function? is it retained in vagotomy or retained only in certain types of vagotomy?
My dictionary says function is "typically to reduce the rate of gastric secretion (e.g., in treating peptic ulcers).|"--85.211.161.177 (talk) 13:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- We have an article on vagotomy, although it is not terribly detailed. We do not seem to have any mention of any sort of 'latarjet', sadly, so I looked elsewhere. This Surgery Encyclopedia discusses it, but I didn't find it terribly clear with regards your question. These Inside Surgery links are far more helpful, telling us the left nerve of Latarjet is a "[b]ranch of [the] left vagus nerve" and the right nerve of Latarjet is a branch of the right vagus nerve. It also tells us that there is division in selective and highly selective vagotomy, but it is silent on complete vagotomy. Perhaps this means more to you than to me. I think you would also find this overview useful. My untrained reading of this is that it is retained only in certain types of vagotomy, with a wide variation in exactly what is removed, but I would appreciate someone with more anatomical knowledge weighing in. It seems reasonable to assume it would be completely removed in a complete vagotomy, for example, but I have long learnt that 'reasonable to assume' counts for little in this area. 86.161.110.118 (talk) 19:59, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Apparently not neccesarily, if the latest procedures are followed. See Resection of Terminal Vagal Branches to Parietal Cell Mass in the Treatment of Duodenal Ulcer (NIH.GOV) --Red King (talk) 21:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Per this, there are two (anterior and posterior), and it probably maps to Anterior gastric branches of anterior vagal trunk and Posterior gastric branches of posterior vagal trunk. --Arcadian (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Personal firearms in the US military
Leading on from the question above about US vets keeping service issued weapons after discharge, do the US military arms (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard) allow serving members to purchase, own, retain, store on military facilities etc their own personal firearms? If they don't, how do they reconcile that against the "right to bear arms" amendment? Exxolon (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Military personnel may purchase private firearms. Many military bases have a Rod and Gun Club that sells firearms, operates ranges and provides storage, for eample, Fort Bliss Personnel in the barracks store firearms in the arms room or the R&G. Private firearms and ammunition are not allowed in combat as there is no way to ensure they meet the various laws of war; for example, the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 ban hollow-point bullets. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 17:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Sructural steel
Hi. I have tried to find what type of HSS i need to built a motorcycle trailer. the bike weights 690#, overall length 99 inches. wheelbase 66.1 ". curb mass front 345 #, rear 399 #. The trailer would consist of : One square structural steel tube on a 1200 # torsion axle . The bike will rest on top oh the steel bar. The maximun i can find is 1/4" wall. structural steel. Is that enought?186.142.207.161 (talk) 19:00, 20 February 2011 (UTC)186.142.207.161 (talk) 18:42, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.142.207.161 (talk) 18:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has an article about Motorcycle trailer noting that can mean either for carrying or being pulled by motorcycles. The article plus its references may help your building project but we cannot provide how-to engineering plans. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 21:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
February 21
Pina Colada
My name is Norman Parkhurst, a resident of Puerto Rico. I was also Senior Vice President for Industrias La Famosa in this same Island and Dominican Republic. Taking a look at your information on Piña Colada, I noticed, its full with wrong information.Tried to correct it myself and the real info is not there today (2/20/2011). I can include photos, of Ramon Lopez Irizarry, probably photos of the manufacturing process and more. La Barrachina purchased Coco Lopez from Industria La Famosa, and were not the inventors of the piña colada . Colada means drained in spanish. The name "pina colada" is a combination of Pineapple juice and Coco Lopez..Moncho didn't find a nice name to put together with Piña and Coco Lopez, so he went with Colada(closest to Coco Lopez). If you have any doubts about my expo..you can contact me at "(email removed)" Hate to tell you..but your Piña Colada history is all wrong ...Even how the drink was served..It did come with a marracihno chery, but it also had a pineapple stick in it and it was serve in a tall glass. Industrias La Famosa, also packed private lable of the coconut crem to GOYA and Chevy Chase. See the mixologist! They have the real story...they took the time to interview me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Normanprm (talk • contribs) 00:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hello Norman! Thank you for taking the time to point this out. The correct place to state this is Talk:Piña Colada. Sumsum2010·T·C·Review me! 02:15, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I fondly remember taking two visits to this facility many years ago, wish I could go again!--85.211.161.177 (talk) 03:50, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Norman, all you need do to ensure that the article is corrected is to give us some references of publications or official websites where we can find the true story in print. Dbfirs 07:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Policy for citing WP
I have a user who keeps using WP articles as citations in other articles. I've tried looking around, but can't find the relevant policy right off hand to point them to to explain why they cant do that. Anyone know what it is? Heiro 07:07, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
should i have enough stock to first sell the shares & then buy?
should i have enough stock to first sell the shares & then buy? Is it possible to sell the shares first & then Buy them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.9.107 (talk) 09:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Naked short selling is one way of selling shares first and then buying them. It's been illegal in the United States and some other jurisdictions since 2008, but there are accusations that it still goes on (see the article for more details). AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 10:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- There are ethical issues as well as legal ones about an individual risking, or even deliberately inviting, personal bankrupcy in this way. However a Limited Company is legitimately in the business of taking on risk with a limited liability, so.... Cuddlyable3 (talk) 12:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC) Clarification: By "this way" I refer to Naked short selling, not short selling in general. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 16:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Short selling does not necessarily invite bankruptcy, especially if the OP can actually afford to lose however much they are investing. Short selling is still legal in many jurisdictions so you don't need to be "accused" of it. There are strong arguments that allowing short selling by informed investors improve the efficiency of the market, the tricky thing for regulators in practice is working out how to allow informed investors in and keeping others out. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 13:56, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- There are ethical issues as well as legal ones about an individual risking, or even deliberately inviting, personal bankrupcy in this way. However a Limited Company is legitimately in the business of taking on risk with a limited liability, so.... Cuddlyable3 (talk) 12:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC) Clarification: By "this way" I refer to Naked short selling, not short selling in general. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 16:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think we needed to immediately leap to naked short selling in answering the original poster. In normal short selling, you tell your stockbroker that you want to short 100 shares of XYZ stock; the broker actually borrows 100 shares of XYZ from someone who already owns XYZ stock; then the broker sells the 100 shares of XYZ on your behalf, and you get the cash in your account. You now start paying interest on the amount that you borrowed. When the stock has dropped in value (we hope!) and you want out, you tell your broker to "cover" 100 shares of XYZ; the broker uses the cash in your account to buy 100 shares, sends the 100 shares back to the party who they were borrowed from in the first place, and you stop paying interest. If the stock dropped in value, you will have made some money, minus the interest you paid. If the stock gained in value, though, you will have lost money. Cuddlyable3's alarm over bankruptcy is because, unlike when you purchase stock, your potential losses from shorting stock are unlimited — suppose you short $1,000 worth of stock whose shares are priced at US$5.00 and, overnight, the price rises to US$100; you now have to buy US$20,000 of this company's stock to repay the shares. Comet Tuttle (talk) 18:24, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
To answer the question a little more directly, selling shares that you don't own is certainly possible: it is known as short selling. Comet Tuttle's answer above explains how it works. Looie496 (talk) 20:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Difference between free delivery and standard delivery
Hi, I wonder if someone could help. I'm thinking of purchasing a washing machine online from Comet (as my current machine is on its last legs) and notice there seem to be two sorts of delivery, Free Delivery and Standard Delivery (which seems to cost £20.50). [17] What is Standard Delivery? Does it mean they'll install it for me? Sorry, I sound really dumb asking this, but I haven't purchased electrical goods online before and can't seem to find anything on the site, so was hoping someone else with experience of this might see my question and know what it means. Thanks in advance. 86.164.130.159 (talk) 12:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- All the info is in this section together with a section lower down, containing information about installation. Or as it's your first time and you are still stuck, you can phone them and ask them:0844 800 95 95 and select option 1.--Aspro (talk) 12:39, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
"Timmersax" in English?
What are these tools called in English? /90.229.129.137 (talk) 17:15, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Skidding tongs for skidding logs alone on the ground. Sometimes called lifting tongs but you should not lift with them -in case log fall on foot. Those images with the long handles are the lifting tongs. --Aspro (talk) 17:33, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Another English name for them seems to be "log grabs". Here's a supplier's site, as an example. Karenjc 17:50, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Here too are some cant hooks and other related timber handling tools that appear in some of those images. [18]--Aspro (talk) 17:56, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Mozilla
Why do almost all user agents have "Mozilla" in them? Even Internet Explorer — Preceding unsigned comment added by K4t84g (talk • contribs) 21:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Please explain in what sense "even Internet Explorer" has "Mozilla" in it. --ColinFine (talk) 23:44, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
vitamins
Are vitamin pills as good as fruit? K4t84g (talk) 21:40, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
...well fruit did come first, so perhaps no would be the answer--85.211.161.177 (talk) 21:50, 21 February 2011 (UTC).
- As good for what purpose? They're not generally as pleasant to eat, and they don't make juice. --ColinFine (talk) 23:44, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- They also lack roughage. --87.81.230.195 (talk) 00:37, 22 February 2011 (UTC)