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Out of scope? What would this serve for? It's not even complete. Darwin Ahoy! 01:32, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Speedy deleted, seems to have been some test by a child, no need to wait for a DR Darwin Ahoy! 01:35, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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corrupted data NNW (talk) 10:35, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Corrupted file Raymond 12:11, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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corrupted data NNW (talk) 10:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Corrupted file Raymond 12:11, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unfortunately the photo has to be deleted as a derivative of an unfree sculpture (the monument was open in 1976 [1]). К сожалению, фотография подлежит удалению, так как памятник был открыт в 1976 году и будет защищён авторскими правами 70 лет после смерти скульптора. Ymblanter (talk) 16:10, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: 1) not allowed to publish photos of that sculpture under a free license, per above 2) photo is obviously stolen from http://www.nofollow.ru/photos_28573.htm Martin H. (talk) 11:53, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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requested by Mr. Warren Peter Weis (talk) 18:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Uploaders request due to personality rights Raymond 18:44, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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requested by Mr. Warren Peter Weis (talk) 18:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Uploaders request due to personality rights Raymond 18:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolution, missing EXIF. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just have a look at the uploader's talk page... --Mai-Sachme (talk) 06:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Denniss (talk) 10:25, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this free? Darwin Ahoy! 01:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: No source, no permission, no description, bad name. Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:05, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Out of scope - no educational value - tiny 3kb thumb - possible copyvio as well INeverCry 18:45, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. Krd 09:45, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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What's the point of that? Out of scope, also blasphemy, uploader offends our God. I don't think that uploader have rights to these pictures, but I can't search it because God said "thou shalt not edit when you have to sleep". Amen. Krzysiu (talk) 03:14, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:07, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Spam, out of scope Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 03:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 03:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, DJ-Spam, quality too low, no educational value Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 04:24, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:05, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like homework c&p from a website? Person itself way in scope. Still, IMHO not a keeper. Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 04:46, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 04:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:05, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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My guess: Uploader doesn't want the image anymore. Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 04:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nom George Chernilevsky talk 05:06, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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No educational value without description. Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:03, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: Could be used, in scope. Yann (talk) 08:09, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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personal photo - not in scope ELEKHHT 05:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:10, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope. Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:15, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:11, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Commons is no place for homework. Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:17, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:11, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Test upload Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:21, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: test / out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:07, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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personal picture - not in scope. There are many image of this building on Commons. ELEKHHT 05:46, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:15, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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personal picture - not in scope ELEKHHT 05:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Out of scope. Yann (talk) 08:15, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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personal picture - not in scope ELEKHHT 05:50, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete - per nom. --Sreejith K (talk) 05:55, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Personal picture - not in scope; Not a monument. ELEKHHT 06:02, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete per nom. --Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 07:17, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like the image is from a poster or pamphlet Sreejith K (talk) 06:02, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 08:55, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like the image is from a poster or pamphlet Sreejith K (talk) 06:02, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 08:55, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like the image is from a poster or pamphlet Sreejith K (talk) 06:03, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 08:55, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This photo is taken by me. The photographic quality is not good. The subject is too small for the frame. Commons have better photograph of the subject than this one. JDP90 (talk) 06:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep There aren't too many pictures of Diplacodes trivialis and the quality is not bad. Maybe the graphics lab can crop the image and blow it up a little? --Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 07:15, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: as Hedwig. Yann (talk) 08:56, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like the image is from a poster or pamphlet Sreejith K (talk) 06:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 08:57, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like the image is from a poster or pamphlet Sreejith K (talk) 06:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 08:57, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like the image is from a poster or pamphlet Sreejith K (talk) 06:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 08:57, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like the image is from a poster or pamphlet Sreejith K (talk) 06:10, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative work: File:Alhad Bikaneri .jpg--Sreejith K (talk) 06:11, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 08:59, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of Commons:Project scope: Commons is not private photoalbum. Not used. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:10, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of Commons:Project scope: Text-only logo of company with questionable notability. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:11, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of Commons:Project scope: Commons is not private photoalbum. Not used. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:11, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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political attack 太刻薄 (talk) 16:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 11:04, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused personal picture, single upload from user, out of COM:PS. Funfood 17:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:12, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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watermarked to someone other than uploader, no evidence uploader is actually creator or has permission of site-host DMacks (talk) 18:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 09:15, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplicate, sorry. Dudek1337 (talk) 18:29, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: exact duplicate George Chernilevsky talk 05:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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http://ensim.univ-lemans.fr/modules/resources/download/ensim/Ecole/ENSIM-Plaquette2011-V11.pdf page 6 non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 09:36, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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capture d'écran -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 09:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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capture d'écran -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 09:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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capture de site web -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 09:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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capture de site web -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 09:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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capture de site web -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 09:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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No use, superseded by SVG. Fry1989 eh? 22:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: unused poor duplicate George Chernilevsky talk 05:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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No use, superseded by SVG. Fry1989 eh? 22:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: unused poor duplicate George Chernilevsky talk 05:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I was notified about that image by Leoboudv. Formally, it is properly licensed CC-BY on its Flickr source. However, the amount and content of text, which is actually the focus of this image, suggests that it is above threshold of originality and thereby copyrighted in itself and making this photo a copyviolating derivative. However, I would welcome input/comments from US-based or US law experienced users. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 05:56, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I thought I could enter the competition with this photos taken in Budapest, Hungary but I came to understand later that I could only be eligible if I took pictures from Dutch monuments (I live in the Netherlands). Therefore, I cannot compete and would like to withdrawal this picture. Thanks you Omafs (talk) 08:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: INeverCry 05:55, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I thought I could enter the competition with this photo taken in Budapest, Hungary but I came to understand later that I could only be eligible if I took pictures from Dutch monuments (I live in the Netherlands). Therefore, I cannot compete and would like to withdrawal this picture. Thank you Omafs (talk) 08:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: INeverCry 05:55, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I thought I could enter the competition with this photo taken in Budapest, Hungary but I came to understand later that I could only be eligible if I took pictures from Dutch monuments (I live in the Netherlands). Therefore, I cannot compete and would like to withdrawal this picture. Thank you Omafs (talk) 08:50, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 05:15, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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movie poster, copyrighted, used only in spam page deleted off enwiki DS (talk) 11:58, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 05:58, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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movie poster, copyrighted, used only in spam page deleted off enwiki DS (talk) 11:59, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 05:58, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolution, missing EXIF. EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:56, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:00, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolution, missing EXIF. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:00, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolution, missing EXIF. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:43, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:02, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolution, missing EXIF. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:46, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:03, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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http://ensim.univ-lemans.fr/fr/decouvrir_l_ecole.html non libre (ok ce n'est pas la même photo) Tiraden (talk) 19:27, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete - per nom. The original author does not seem to release it under the stated free licenses. --whym (talk) 04:58, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just to add: the uploader was asked in 2010 to provide evidence he/she represents the school. It seems that there has been no response. --whym (talk)

Deleted: INeverCry 06:05, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Logo -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep - as a composition merely of texts and simple geometric shapes. --whym (talk) 05:09, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: INeverCry 06:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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logo -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:32, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep - as a simple text logo which does not meet COM:TOO. --whym (talk) 05:07, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: INeverCry 06:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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I the owner, allows, Wikimedia Commons to delete the picture GoShow (talk) 20:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:08, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused screenshot, bad quality. Funfood 21:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:08, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused private photo - out of project scope. Other author in exif, low resolution - doubtful authorship. Art-top (talk) 21:29, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:08, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Poorly cropped, not in focus, bad composition, bad color, without description cat photo. There are many more high-quality photos. Art-top (talk) 21:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:09, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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It's highly unlikely that this is "own work" as the subject of the photograph died in 1947. A similar photo was uploaded here in 2009. Diannaa (talk) 22:26, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:09, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Reasons for deletion request. Bitte um umgehende Löschung aus der Datenbank da nachträglich ein Verstoß festgestellt worden ist, nachdem lebende Personen abgebildet sind. -Brisch (talk) 12:05, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Uploader request -- personality rights .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:16, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This was just deleted last week, we have the exact same flag under the file name File:Newfoundland Tricolour.svg Fry1989 eh? 00:12, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Newfoundland Tricolour.svg is INCORRECTLY named and historically misleading, hence I am attempting to replace it with the CORRECTLY named File:Star of the Sea Association Flag.svg. I have initiated a deletion request for the inappropriately named File:Newfoundland Tricolour.svg and that it be replaced with the historically accurately named File:Star of the Sea Association Flag.svg. Please see: Carolyn Lambert, Emblem of our Country, Newfoundland and Labrador Studies, Volume 23, Number 1, 2008; Newfoundland Historical Society, A Short History of Newfoundland and Labrador, St. John's, NL, Boulder Publications, 2008, and the associated Wikipedia article and stop deleting the WRONG FILE! User:Brynner737

Instead of uploading the flag under your name over and over and asking for the other one to be speedily deleted, you should simply ask for File:Newfoundland Tricolour.svg to be renamed. It's a way more simple process. Fry1989 eh? 00:27, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now why didn't I think of that. :)))... well, I did, but didn't know how to go about it. I'll read up on it and if it doesn't go smoothly I'll try it that way. Thanks. User:Brynner737


Deleted: The other flag is widely used, this one is unused. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:18, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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{{delete|reason=This image is is INCORRECTLY named and historically misleading and should be replaced with the CORRECTLY named File:Star of the Sea Association Flag.svg. Please see: Carolyn Lambert, Emblem of our Country, Newfoundland and Labrador Studies, Volume 23, Number 1, 2008; Newfoundland Historical Society, A Short History of Newfoundland and Labrador, St. John's, NL, Boulder Publications, 2008, and the associated Wikipedia article and stop deleting the WRONG FILE! Brynner737 (talk) 00:27, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Per this DR obviously this file will not be deleted, It should simply be renamed. It's been here longer, there's absolutely no reason to delete the older file when all you have to do is rename it. Speedy  Keep Fry1989 eh? 00:29, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The Wikipedia article is about the Newfoundland Tricolour; that is the article name in Wikipedia, and this file proposed here for deletion has the same name as its Wikipedia article. The filename is referred to at 46 locations – 7 references in Commons and 39 articles in Wikipedia – see "File usage on Commons" and "File usage on other wikis" – and should be retained. The Newfoundland Tricolour article points out that the flag is "based on the colours of the Roman Catholic fraternal group the Star of the Sea Association" (my italics). But as the flag is used as the Newfoundland Tricolour, and the Wikipedia article has the same name, there can be no objection to retaining the name of this file. The tricolour is listed at the definitive Flags of the World website as the "Newfoundland Pink-White-Green flag", not as the Star of the Sea flag. No evidence has been adduced to support the deletion proposer's claim that this flag image file or the Wikipedia article should be renamed.
User:Brynner737 who has proposed this deletion has recently uploaded a copy of this file with a different name, File:Newfoundland Star of the Sea Association Flag.svg. This was proposed for deletion and was, in fact, deleted (see user's talk page). Then he uploaded another copy, calling it File:Star of the Sea Association Flag.svg. This, too, has been proposed for deletion because it is a simple duplicate (re-upload) of the file he now proposes for deletion. Both files that he uploaded were straight copies of the original he proposes here for deletion. O'Dea (talk) 18:22, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Widely in use .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:18, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-free derivative work of the depicted sculpture. This is particularly apparent with e.g. the flowers in File:Stupa tara fall.jpg, which only stylistically resemble flowers and appear to be composed of a thick, solid material; but also applies to the tower. See also File:Stupa 9.8.10.jpg. Although one may argue this stupa is a "building," which would exempt it from the need to clear rights to the sculpture, Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#United_States states that "The term building means structures that are habitable by humans and intended to be both permanent and stationary, such as houses and office buildings, and other permanent and stationary structures designed for human occupancy, including but not limited to churches, museums, gazebos, and garden pavilions." I believe this structure is too small for a human to reasonably inhabit. Dcoetzee (talk) 01:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep There is evidence in the OTRS ticket itself (for those with access, it's in the fourth paragraph) which dispels the DW concern. I can't go into details without breaking the secrecy of OTRS, but I think it should be kept. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:03, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Sven is correct, a reading of the ticket clearly shows there should be no problem with a DW. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do not understand what is going on here. Why should these photos of the stupa be deleted? Whose idea is that? The entry and photos were put up on behalf of Kurukulla Center to inform and educate Wikipedia readers about the latest Kalachakra stupa to be built in the world. They greatly enhance the article. I don't know what "non-free derivative work" means. And the comment about the flowers is particularly unintelligible. These are real flowers in vases..."Appear to composed of a thick, solid material"? What does that mean? And who would want to argue that this stupa is a building? It is totally impenetrable, as stupas generally are, so that it doesn't crack in the cold Boston winters (should we ever experience any of those again). Stupas are never meant to ne inhabited. The whole issue of having the rights to the photos was cleared up with Wiki editors in 2010 at the time they were posted. Nicholas Ribush. How to Build a Stupa
  •  Comment In personal e-mails Mr. Ribush informed me: "I created the stupa in that I was director of Kurukulla Center for the 2 years during which it was built, supervised the construction and raised all the money it took to do so). [...] There's no copyright! It's a traditional Tibetan Buddhist design that goes back centuries. We got the plans from the lama who supervised the building of a similar stupa for HH the Dalai Lama in Dharamsala." If the design is in fact identical to a classical design, and he can speak as a legal agent of the center, and the center owns copyright to the sculpture (it was done by center employees or under a contract transferring copyright to the center), then it's probably okay. But I have some doubts about these facts as I have not seen adequate evidence of them, so I'm still leaning towards delete. It is not unusual in the area of religious designs for people to claim a design is classical merely because it vaguely resembles classical designs, when in fact it is modern in origin. Dcoetzee (talk) 20:18, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • In e-mail Mr. Ribush informed me: "If there was a designer of the stupa, he died hundreds if not over a thousand years ago...the rules with these things is that they must be built exactly the same." If this is the case then of course the sculpture is public domain and the photo is okay. I was not aware of this cultural convention and so I would accept a keep, although I would ideally like to see stronger evidence of this assertion. Dcoetzee (talk) 22:11, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: THis DR happened because the parties invlolved (a) did not say in the description that the Stupa is the creation of the uploader and (b) that there is an OTRS ticket clarifying this. Either of those would have prevented this DR from happening, without them, it is entirely appropriate. I have modified the file accordingly. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:24, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Very poor quality. Much better versions available. ELEKHHT 05:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: We do not generally delete images for quality reasons unless they are unusable -- perhaps we should, but this is not the place to start. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:27, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This photo was previously uploaded by User:Aparhan and deleted at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Uyghur man tomak.jpg. It was deleted because aparhan claimed it was his own work, while he took it off a website and the metadate showed adobe photoshop. He also previosuly uploaded a painiting which s not his own work, while claiming it was- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mehmud-qeshqeri.JPG

His banned sock accounts have repeatedly added the same photo to the english wikipedia article multiple times, as well as other language wikis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aparhan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Greczia http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A82.113.122.166 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A89.204.136.52

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uyghur_people&action=history

BaratK is a sock account of Aparhan, he claims that "(Photo was made with a Monolog Camera in 2004. Later it was scanned with Photoshop in 2005 and digitalized in 2010) - asked per Email"

Unfortunately, photoshop is not a scanning device but a software used to modify the image. If he digitized the image in 2010, that means the image was previosuly on a hard copy ie. a physical photograph, which it clearly wasn't since at the previous deletion request i submitted, i noted it went through photoshop. i saw the metadata when his previous account Aparhan uploaded it and it said photoshop. On this new image, he was also careful to excise photoshop from the metadata,

Its also impossible to use photoshop to modify a physical, non digitized photo.

There is also no such thing as a "monolog camera" after i looked it up on google.

he already uploaded that photo under the false pretenses that he owned it, now that he shifted his story around, which doesn't even make sense when we read it, its copyright violation again.

The usage of a sock account to reupload the photo is also bad faith and an attempt to prevent people who knew the photo was copyvio from finding out.

Mendsetting (talk) 05:13, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your photoshop argument is missing the target because it is written by some ip afterwards. Last version by the uploader of the image was Picture was scanned with Photoshop, because the original one was not digital which was perfectly sane sentence. Photoshop is software which is commonly used to scan pictures with scanner.
Anyway you or somebody else who has enough good karma in commons could do a favor and ask from Barat Kurbanjan if he is the uploader of the picture and if it is ok to use it here. And ask also OTRS-permit if it is needed. --Zache (talk) 05:41, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have shown above that aparhan has used ip addresses as sockpuppets. And why did he create a new sock account instead of using his Aparhan account, unless he deliberately was trying to hide?
The ip address 93.217.139.166 traces to germany aparhan's confirmed sock master tirgil34 is from germany
you have to aska trusted german speaking administrator on commons to ask for the permission. If a random guy comes up here and offers to email barat or claims to be barat its most likely an aparhan sock.Mendsetting (talk) 06:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
the real onus is on Aparhan aka BaratK to prove that he has permission from the real baratk, not on us.Mendsetting (talk) 06:44, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I emailed to Barat Kurbanjan (b.kurbanjan@yahoo.com) and asked if he is uploader and copyright holder. If he is and it is ok to use the image then sending OTRS permit is probaply most simplest thing to do. --Zache (talk) 07:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see also no problem here, beside the fact that Mendsetting together with his sock Cnbhkine tried to delete the image through racist arguments such as: "an Caucasian, not Uyghur". About the rest I agree with Zache's proceeding. --93.217.177.3 16:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
except for the fact that Cnbhkine is not my sock account, but you (aparhan) impersonating me and edit warring with yourself. I invite administrators at meta to do an ip checkuser on "cnbhkine". When i reverted aparhan's edits i always used the mendsetting account. By the way, you are permanently banned from english wikipedia and you continue to edit there via ip address. And english is my first language but your second language, you overdid yourself while trying to impersonate me, its "a caucasian, not uyghur".Mendsetting (talk) 20:13, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have also never said that the photo was not of a uyghur. On guerilla of the renmin's talk page archive, i noted that the uyghurs were approximately half mongoloid/asian and half caucasian and that there should be an equal balance of photos, except you deleted most of the asian looking uyghurs from most of the other language wikis and replaced them exclusively with people who had blonde hair or caucasian features. Mendsetting (talk) 20:29, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
and your current ip address is the same range as the one who edited the description in the photo- 93.217.139.166. If you are going to pretend to be a third party user, have the decency not to insult our intelligence by logging into an account.Mendsetting (talk) 20:15, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I got an answer from Barat Kurbanjan and picture is his. However uploader of the picture BaratK was Aparhan and he asked the permission before he uploaded the photo and he got full rights to use the photo. Also Barat was happy that his photos were used in Wikipedia. So i fixed photos author information based on this. Next thing should be that Barak sends the OTRS permit. --Zache (talk) 23:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
other than that, there is still an issue of sockpuppet abuse and cross wiki edit warring on Aparhan's part. Should i take it to meta if he tries to delete photos he doesn't like from the uyghur articles?Mendsetting (talk) 01:56, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In fiwiki article is protected because edit warring by multiple non finnish people and after protection ends it is stabilized to latest stable version with flagged revision. That should be enough in the fiwiki context and if it is not then we will figure out something else. Anyway you should use edit summaries when you are reverting the edits. --Zache (talk) 08:15, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Zache, how can I get the OTRS permit? What should I do for this? --BaratK (talk) 16:01, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, i think that sending permission email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org should be enough. Which i think you already did? --Zache (talk) 11:34, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Uyghur man tomak.jpg and the sock involvement. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:30, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This photo is taken by me. The photographic quality is not good. The subject is very unsharp and noisy. Commons have better photograph of the subject than this one. JDP90 (talk) 06:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: It is the only closeup of the statue. Quality is not a reason to delete .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:33, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This photo is taken by me. The photographic quality is not good. Commons have better photograph of the subject than this one. JDP90 (talk) 06:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: Not a reason to delete .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:34, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This photo is taken by me. The photographic quality is not good. The subject is very unsharp, consists artifacts. Commons have better photograph of the subject than this one. JDP90 (talk) 06:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: Not a reason to delete .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:34, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a grossly misleading and factually incorrect map. Entire nations were not swept with protests. In many cases, only dozens or hundreds of individuals protested in single cities. To represent whole countries being under protest is undue weight and emphasis. The author has uploaded this map to many Wikipedias, thereby spreading the mistruth. WWGB (talk) 07:22, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support deletion; I didn't see this as a problem when I first added it into the article, however it's clearly a concern that's valid when there are many better ways of plotting the exact locations of protests. Though I don't believe the author deliberately attempted to spread "mistruth" by initially uploading the image, as an typical regular Wikipedian with an average level of experience, I honestly the image was good as similar images are used elsewhere (Realised that those images were in regards to governments and domestic affairs). He obviously did it with good intentions and like many others become attached to their work hence attempted to repeatedly reinsert it into the article. YuMaNuMa (talk) 07:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion at Wikipedia:WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Camoka4 may be relevant. The author of the map has been blocked. WWGB (talk) 07:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose deletion. First of all, I find very disturbing that WWGB accuse someone of "spreading the mistruth".

Secondly, it´s a very practical map to illustrate the current attacks. All the countries that have been colored have been cited by the medias (E.g.: Europapress) --Wiki erudito (talk) 23:26, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Delete this map is not appropriate or accurate. Its use has been, and may yet still be used as an edit warring tool across a number of WMF sites. Originating author has been found to be a block evading sockpuppet at E Wikipedia using this image to push a point of view. For commons, this may or may not have use, however it should be noted that its use on the number of encyclopedia it is currently found may be perpetuating falsehoods.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:09, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: THe map is widely used. It is Commons firm policy that we do not make decisions based on the content of political maps -- we leave that to editors on the WPs and outisde of WMF who may or may not choose to use this map. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:36, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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copy of File:Erbsen123.jpg --Robby (talk) 07:44, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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copy of File:Monemvasia Ansicht.jpg Robby (talk) 09:26, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The use of NASA logos, insignia and emblems are restricted per US law 14 CFR 1221. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:14, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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definitely not an "own work", not a Google Maps screenshot but this image uses data by Geoeye for sure NNW (talk) 10:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The map was not created (e.g. drawn) by the uploader. Just a photograph of a displayed map but there is NO freedom of panorama in the US, so this is a violation of copyrights 188.104.111.21 10:43, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This map is published by the National Park Service as a public service and I believe it can be therefore be considered as part of the public domain. If you like, I could change the attribution to make that more explicit. This photo will be useful for the person who writes up the articles on Fort Barry and Fort Cronkhite (probably me in coming weeks), so they can tell where the various photos I took for Wiki Loves Monuments are actually located. I don't think it's the end of the world if you guys decide to delete it, but I would advocate keeping it for a few more weeks until I we find another way to visualize the layout of this historic site. Thank you! Fabrice Florin (talk) 19:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: This is not "own work" as claimed. It cannot be CC-BY because it is PD-USGov-NPS .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:46, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Not the uploader's own work: the windows logo is copyighted because it is not so simple to be in the public domain due to its simpliness - especially not the version shown in the image 188.104.111.21 10:44, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Much the same as File:Windows logo - 2006.svg and others in Category:Microsoft Windows logos... -- AnonMoos (talk) 14:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete I disagree that the windows logo is of simple geometry. Especially this particularly file with its color transition is not ineligible for copyright. --High Contrast (talk) 16:17, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Both logs are problematic. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:50, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The building looks complex. I'm not convinced that this is simple enough. Stefan4 (talk) 11:54, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:51, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Dieses Bild bitte löschen. Die Hausnummer ist 20 nicht 25. Bilderguru22 (talk) 13:02, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: that is not a reason to delete. please use {{Rename}} .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:52, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflict of license. Rangilo Gujarati (talk) 13:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep. It merely says that the image is copyrighted by Fayeza Hussain, who is almost certainly the uploader (Fhussain22). If it said "all rights reserved" or something like that, there might be a conflict, but it is true that an image, even if CC licensed, is copyrighted by its author. -- King of 08:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:52, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflict of license. Rangilo Gujarati (talk) 13:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep. It merely says that the image is copyrighted by Fayeza Hussain, who is almost certainly the uploader (Fhussain22). If it said "all rights reserved" or something like that, there might be a conflict, but it is true that an image, even if CC licensed, is copyrighted by its author. -- King of 08:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:52, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflict of license. Rangilo Gujarati (talk) 13:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep. It merely says that the image is copyrighted by Fayeza Hussain, who is almost certainly the uploader (Fhussain22). If it said "all rights reserved" or something like that, there might be a conflict, but it is true that an image, even if CC licensed, is copyrighted by its author. -- King of 08:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:53, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflict of license. Rangilo Gujarati (talk) 13:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep. It merely says that the image is copyrighted by Fayeza Hussain, who is almost certainly the uploader (Fhussain22). If it said "all rights reserved" or something like that, there might be a conflict, but it is true that an image, even if CC licensed, is copyrighted by its author. -- King of 08:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: This appears to be, and says it is, a postcard, therefore not the work of the uploader. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:54, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflict of license. Rangilo Gujarati (talk) 13:17, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep. It merely says that the image is copyrighted by Fayeza Hussain, who is almost certainly the uploader (Fhussain22). If it said "all rights reserved" or something like that, there might be a conflict, but it is true that an image, even if CC licensed, is copyrighted by its author. -- King of 08:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:55, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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cropped versioun of File:Artemis Ephesos.JPG Robby (talk) 13:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:55, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of focus, blurred CLI (talk) 13:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: True, but maybe the only image we have of this place. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:56, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Cerkiew greko-kat. p.w. Przeniesienia Relikwii św. Mikołaja w Olchowcu 7.JPG

Once again: Out of focus, blurred. We have some better pics of this church: Category:Greek_Catholic_Church_in_Olchowiec CLI (talk) 11:20, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted 21:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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This file was initially tagged by INeverCry as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Copyrighted logo.
Converted by me to DR, as I'm not sure whether it is above threshold of originality per Dutch copyright law. -- Túrelio (talk) 14:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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This file was initially tagged by INeverCry as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Book cover..
Converted by me to DR, as I'm not sure whether the images on these book covers are still under copyright. -- Túrelio (talk) 14:41, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: That question must be proven by the uploader .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:59, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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unusable format? McZusatz (talk) 16:32, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

$ file MUFTI_HAFIZ_MUHAMMAD_ISHAQ.jpg 
MUFTI_HAFIZ_MUHAMMAD_ISHAQ.jpg: CDF V2 Document, No summary info

What program do you use for opening CDF V2 documents? Even if the format is useless, it might be possible to convert the file to a useful format if the contents can be read. --Stefan4 (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TrID
  InPage document (69.8%)
  Generic OLE2 / Multistream Compound File (30.1%)
I have no clue. --McZusatz (talk) 17:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Not used on commons, imported from wikipedia for some unknown reason Foroa (talk) 17:17, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Same for Category:Tracking categories. --Foroa (talk) 17:21, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: If I recall correctly, this ties in with certain uploads from WP, and is helpful .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:04, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Double of File:Special-Pelz-Haus Blum, Bonn (1925), Briefkopf.jpg Kürschner (talk) 17:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: The fact that it is a double is not surprising -- the two filenames are the same. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:10, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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own upload, double of File:Special-Pelz-Haus_Blum,_Bonn_am_Rhein,_letter_head_(1926).jpg Kürschner (talk) 07:54, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems for me a No-FoP-Russia-case (complex was designed and raised in the 1950) similar to Commons:Deletion requests/File:Luzhniki stadium - Moscow.jpg (or could this resolved via {{NoFoP-Russia}}? Gunnex (talk) 17:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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כפול - מיותר יעל י (talk) 18:03, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: The reason given is "double -- unnecessary", but it is also a copyright violation. The text is certainly still in copyright -- Israel is PMA+70. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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duplicate of File:Decca-computer_hg.jpg Hannes Grobe (talk) 19:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Advertising is more then de minimis, copyrighted and 2D, does not benefit from {{FOP-UK}}. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:16, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: Whether or not the software has a copyright, the music shown does. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:17, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Kept: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:18, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Nearly a duplicate of . But in the other file the cities are at the correct locations. Torsch (talk) 23:10, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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low quality Reinhardhauke (talk) 13:58, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Would you care to propose a replacement then (a picture of this same window), in order to make this request compliant with the deletion policy? --Eusebius (talk) 05:42, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Per Eusebius .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Strongly doubt own work claim. Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Per DR. MBisanz talk 17:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Strongly doubt own work claim Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Per DR. MBisanz talk 17:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Strongly doubt own work claim. Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:10, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Per DR. MBisanz talk 17:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:02, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as undisputed. MBisanz talk 17:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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No use, we have an SVG of this logo at File:National Geographic Channel.svg. Fry1989 eh? 22:52, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please DELETE,BORRENlo por favor.some users upload this kind of files because says OFficial logo see, see,see,for more imagen-s see this User contributions.--EEIM (talk) 23:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Per DR. MBisanz talk 17:08, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced with superior version (BillStewart1963.jpg) Doc9871 (talk) 07:46, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:25, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by INeverCry as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Book cover..
Converted by me to DR, as I'm not sure whether the graphic on right cover is still copyrighted. -- Túrelio (talk) 14:44, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: File was deleted by Jameslwoodward. INeverCry 19:27, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a photograph of a presumably copyrighted medal, and so a derivative work. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My friend won this medal and allowed me to make picture for Wikipedia. What is the problem with it. Will tomorrow Victoria Cross picture will have the sam e fate??

--Khalid Mahmood (talk) 07:48, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:26, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally nominated at Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots as a possibly unfree screenshot of copyrighted software. Procedural split, as decided in the original DR, for individiual consideration.-FASTILYs (TALK) 20:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:31, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This image and the other ones from the DRs below are a bit suspicious, but actually not more than all the others this user has uploaded for the 2 years. He has pictures from all over the world, and the dates are obviously wrong (he claims having been in Nepal and in Peru the same day). So either we delete them all, or we keep them. AFAICT there is no picture he could not have taken (i.e. restricted areas, special activities, etc.). Obviously it would be best that he answers here. Yann (talk) 11:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
PS: We should keep the discussion for all images together here. Yann (talk) 11:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 19:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:41, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:41, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, '22. September 2012' etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:41, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Roland zh as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: imho not 'own work', p.e. no EXIF, missing location, missing 'permission' by people on the photograph etc. etc., pls also see User talk:Toilet FASTILY (TALK) 21:42, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 19:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Only available under CC BY-ND 2.0 (no derivatives) at flickr. This is not compatible with Commons:Licensing. 90.184.205.91 05:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 21:48, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Its a copy from File:Kristen-Flipkens-2009Usopen.png Please delete File:Kirsten-Flipkens-2009Usopen.png and rename File:Kristen-Flipkens-2009Usopen.png to File:Kirsten-Flipkens-2009Usopen.png. Than make a #redirect from File:Kristen-Flipkens-2009Usopen.png to File:Kirsten-Flipkens-2009Usopen.png. Thats the right name en:Kirsten Flipkens. Thanks --217.246.199.23 15:44, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done by User:Túrelio at 15:19, 14 October 2012‎ [2].
Thanks --217.246.197.222 04:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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no source no date may be copyrighted may be reproduction P. Sridhar Babu (talk) 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: PD-India Morning Sunshine (talk) 10:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Darbhashayan Ram.jpg

No proof that the painting is painted by Raja Ravi Varma. Sign not present. The press started by the artist also printed paintings of other artists after his death. No date, thus no proof of PD-art. Same as Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sita 1.jpg Redtigerxyz (talk) 10:18, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment The uploader is a serial socker who has been faking tags here, on en.wiki, te.wiki etc. I don't know if this particular painting is one by Ravi Varma (first time I'm seeing it), so I can't be sure. This selected list of his paintings doesn't have this one on it. In addition, another sock of the uploader subsequently nominated this image for deletion before. Given the level of narcissistic disruption by this particular user, I would suggest just deleting everything uploaded by the socks and be done with it as we have way too much clean up to do (I suggested this at AN earlier too). —SpacemanSpiff 11:55, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Many of images uploaded by this user and socks are not copyright violations and should be retained IMO. Assuming good faith, the user may be confused that all lithographs by the Raja Ravi Varma press are painted Raja Ravi Varma by Raja Ravi Varma, which is a popular misconception. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 12:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep This is clearly old. Yann (talk) 14:24, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There is no clear proof of that. If it is old (created in 1960), then not old enough to be PD-India. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 14:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think you are looking for problems where there is none. See e.g. File:A family portrait, Rama and Sita, Hanuman, and Rama's three brothers Lakshmana, Bharata, and Shatrughna.jpg, File:Siva-parvati-by-raja-ravi-varma.jpg, and others from Category:Raja Ravi Varma. Yann (talk) 15:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Ravi Varma Press was sold by the artist in 1901. It continued to print the artist's paintings, however also expanded to other artists. The press published lithographs at least till 1948 [3] (example). I have not found any closing date for the Press yet, so that we can conclusively say that they are PD-India. For PD-India, the work should be published prior to 1 January 1952 anonymously OR the author should be dead prior to 1 January 1952. We have no proof of that. IMO, we should adhere to Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:41, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, the press didn't stop at Ravi Varma's dead. It was a successful business. In fact, these prints are still printed and sold on the Net today. It does not mean that Ravi Varma is not the author. It is his style printed by his own press. Yann (talk) 06:07, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So do you mean that the author of a Ravi Varma Press lithograph printed in 1948 is also Raja Ravi Varma, who died in 1906 and sold the press in 1901. That is a strange conclusion. The publisher/artist of the 1948 lithograph is its author. A date is needed to prove PD-India for this image. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 16:20, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
[4] Ravi Varma Press shut in 1980. No conclusive proof that PD-India is fulfilled. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 15:30, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the painting, you can clearly see that it is from the early 20th century. Look on the Net for similar prints from Ravi Varma press, they are all dated around 1910. By Indian copyright law, this is in the public domain 50 years after creation, so around 1960. The 1957 law is not retroactive. Yann (talk) 16:30, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We are not experts in dating the lithograph. The argument that similar images are on the net is very similar to Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle statement 5. By Indian copyright law, anon works pre 1 Jan 1952 (60 years) are PD-India. The press published in a style mirroring the great Raja Ravi Varma's style for years. May be right up to its closure in 1980.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 16:39, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



Kept per Commons talk:WikiProject India#Ravi Varma press. INeverCry 16:43, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader name = subject = photographer. Looks like professional work, so we will need Commons:OTRS permission from the photographer.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 12:58, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


 Kept, satisfied user is who he says. Aude (talk) 03:22, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jimmy Walter.jpg

Although the previous deletion discussion was closed as keep, there are two outstanding issues which require more thorough confirmation. One is that we need to independently confirm that the uploader is Jimmy Walter, e.g. through one of his public e-mail addresses. The other is that we need to confirm that this photograph was taken under a contract which transfers copyright to Jimmy Walter. In the absence of such a contract, the copyright in a work by a hired contractor in the United States would remain with the photographer - this work does not qualify as a work for hire in the US (see en:Work_for_hire#Law_in_the_United_States). Dcoetzee (talk) 17:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept

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logo -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: Denniss (talk) 11:55, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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logo -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: Denniss (talk) 11:55, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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logo -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: Denniss (talk) 11:55, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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logo -> non libre Tiraden (talk) 19:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: Denniss (talk) 11:55, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Original photo is sourced to http://cpt.org/gallery/album109/05_04_21_Gas_the_Arabs. The photo no longer exists at that location. Under CCPL licensing, the Licensor may revoke any further use of the image. Given that the original image is removed, the assumption should be made that the Licensor no longer grants rights under CCPL. Additionally, the photo description is unsourced and not verfiable. Tgeairn (talk) 07:43, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The image is licensed according to CC-BY-SA-3.0 and as far as I know it is not a requirement that the image should remain at it's original location for the license to be valid. // Liftarn (talk)
  • Out of Scope. The photo demonstrates that, somewhere, sometime, a child stood in front of graffiti. Or possibly installation art. But AFAICT, the image can't be included in any encyclopaedic article without raising intractable issues about reliability, verifiability, and NPOV, and so doesn't serve a purpose on commons. Also:
  • Consent Required. Commons policy requires compliance with local law regarding photographic consent. Israel requires consent to publish identifiable pictures of people in public places. There's no documented consent from this child. 24.177.125.104

The image was moved to http://cpt.org/index.php?q=gallery&g2_itemId=2454. The previous location was also captured by archive.org here. I have updated the details. So the "photo no longer exists at that location" is dealt with. Regarding "the photo description is unsourced and not verfiable", CPT's photo's of graffiti are discussed by Antony Loewenstein in My Israel Question and Maeve Connolly's The Place of Artists' Cinema: Space, Site, and Screen includes a picture of this graffiti. Sean.hoyland (talk) 08:25, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(Edit conflict)Agreed. Given that the image is still available under CCPL, the licensing question is moot. The issue of the associated data (primarily the description) is still open. The image description is not verified in a reliable source, and is making a statement of fact that comprises the bulk of the communication. I will review the sources you have provided; but perhaps you can tell us if those sources reliably confirm the image description? Thanks, Tgeairn (talk) 08:33, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Neither source can reliably confirm the image description; the first is about the existence of grafitti in general, and the second is about an entirely different photograph. 24.177.125.104 08:44, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
eh ? The second is the same grafitti. Tgeairn, I can post the pages to google docs if you can't see them. Obviously it's not possible to know what the facts are in this case. It could have been done by the small chap standing around.
  • The first source says "The Christian Peacemaker Teams released a series of photographs taken in Hebron in recent years that showed the attitudes of many settlers to the Palestinians. Some of the graffiti in English included: 'Die Arab Sand Niggers'; 'Exterminate the Muslims'; 'Watch out Fatima, we will rape all Arab Women'; 'Kill All Arabs' 'White Power: Kill Niggers'; 'Gas the Arabs' and 'Arabs to the Gas Chambers'"
  • The second source...which includes a picture of the same grafitti...is quite arty, goes on a bit at length, and I can't be bothered to type it all in, says "slogans sprayed by Jewish settlers in Hebron". Let me know if you can't see the pages though and I'll put them on google docs. To my mind, the best that can be done WP:V compliance-wise is to say something like that the grafitti was reportedly sprayed by settlers in Hebron and cite the sources. That statement is true and verifiable. This kind of graffiti is common in Hebron anyway so it doesn't exactly raise a red flag. Sean.hoyland (talk) 09:21, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problems, I am able to view the sources. The image exists, and Sean.hoyland has updated the details to reflect the source. The source itself is unlikely to found reliable for the description/attribution of the graffiti, but that (as stated below) doesn't mean the image should be deleted. The description is still the issue though. I could take a photo of my grand-daughter in front of an anti-loyalist grafitti and say that it is "Catholic hatred"; but that doesn't make it a reliable statement... even if I post that photo under my mate's press credentials. It would certainly be a photo of a young girl under anti-loyalist grafitti, but there would be not a reliable source saying that it was placed by a Republican. CPT isn't subject to editorial review, and therefore their description of an image isn't going to be considered reliable. We are left with a choice of either removing the image entirely, or of changing the description to one that is entirely neutral. Given that this image (and related ones with the same issues) are widely discussed, I anticipate that others will have input. This has been around for two years, so there is no rush to determine an outcome. On a personal note, I do not have a horse in this race, and I commend all editors involved in this discussion for bringing civility and reason to a subject that has been very heated in the past. --Tgeairn (talk) 09:50, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Licensing is not an issue and the sources given by Sean.hoyland clearly show the same graffiti on the same door. The caption can be improved through normal editing; it's not a valid reason to delete the image. Tijfo098 (talk) 09:12, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Unclear copyright status. Unless we have clear, explicit written/textual, tangible evidence indicating that this file is indeed freely licensed under a Commons compatible license, we cannot host it on Commons FASTILY (TALK) 02:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:05 04 21 Gas the Arabs.jpg

Violates commons policy requires compliance with country-specific consent requirements. According to that page, Israel requires consent to publish a picture of a person; however, there is no {{Consent}} documentation for this photo. 24.177.121.137 04:10, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Publishing a picture of a minor without consent. Yann (talk) 05:29, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've no idea if Israel copyright requirements apply to the territories they occupy, as the West Bank.
Anyway, if I well understand, Israel/Palestinian matters should be irrelevant here, since the photo apparently was first published in http://cpt.org/, hosted in New York City. This is an American work, not Israeli, even if it would have been taken in Tel Aviv instead of the West Bank.
If the above is correct, technically it should be  kept.
I'm somewhat sympathetic to Yann argument of publishing a picture of a minor without consent, though the image doesn't seem to be demeaning in any way to the child. The presence of the boy seems to be quite casual in the picture.-- Darwin Ahoy! 05:46, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think the law of the land where the picture was taken needs to apply; after all, we don't know whether the photo was "published to" CPT's website from the West Bank, Israel, NYC, or Australia.
I don't know if this picture was taken in Palestinian-controlled Hebron or Israeli-controlled Hebron. I also can't find any authoritative source for the existence or non-existence of a body of Palestinian law, or any personality rights that it might protect.
But I think prudence dictates that we err on the side of caution. After all, it's a child who possibly didn't consent to the photo, and we've got other pictures of the exact same door without him. 24.177.121.137 19:15, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The file is undoubtedly published in the US, the point from which you upload is immaterial. Same thing as sending a book from Cambodja to the US for publication. But thinking better about it, foreign law probably would also apply, or else we would not have an issue with FOP in France and such things. Question would be if Israel law applies at all there, I don't believe it to be an immediate conclusion that when you occupy a territory, your law is what counts. There was a recent case here dealing with the occupation of Poland by Germany, from what was written there, it would require a significant degree of recognizing by other countries of such occupation for the occupier law to be held on count.
This is only technical stuff, however, and I believe this DR will be decided on other grounds.-- Darwin Ahoy! 23:25, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The act of publishing the photo could have taken place anywhere. The image is hosted in the US, but that's an entirely different thing.
You'll find there's disagreement about whether Hebron is occupied territory. There are no generally accepted answers to the questions you ask. That's mostly irrelevant, though: prudence and caution should dictate when we're dealing in the personality rights of a minor. 24.177.121.137 00:52, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The image of the boy could be rather easily cropped away, as you can see now with the second image version, which I uploaded over the original one. However, the image would loose much by such cropping, as the rather innocently looking boy makes the hate graffite the more cruel. Actually I assume that the photographer choose this composition intentionally. --Túrelio (talk) 07:31, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For the cropped version, I would say  Keep. Yann (talk) 08:17, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Another option would be to pixelate the boy's face, which I have done now in the second most recent image version. --Túrelio (talk) 08:34, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Found only now, we have another photo of the same graffiti on the same door, File:Gas the arabs painted in Hebron.JPG, which also can give a guess how much the boy contributes to the message/impression of this image. --Túrelio (talk) 08:37, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't. There's no compelling reason to keep this picture; it's replaceable. 24.177.121.137 10:22, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. If Israeli privacy law is the remaining concern, the boy's face can be pixelated. [5] That's the recommended course of action in the Commons guideline. So  Keep (again, duh). Tijfo098 (talk) 05:55, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question: why should Commons keep the picture with the pixilated boy, when another picture of the same graffiti already exists on Commons without the boy? (again... duh?) 24.177.121.137 06:10, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. OMG, are you serious?!? I just looked at the link, and that's creepy as hell. 24.177.121.137 06:12, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Very creepy indeed! But I suppose it can be fixed, so that it doesn't look so awkward.-- Darwin Ahoy! 12:35, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Creepy" is not a valid reason for deletion. Tijfo098 (talk) 07:28, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but there don't seem to be any valid reasons to keep, and policyvio is a valid reason for deletion. 2600:1008:B008:B716:0:39:D3D9:7401 21:53, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
May I voice my concern for using children in such way buy different political organizations. Although the content of picture is clearly shocking, the question remains why the child was put in front of such graphite. Maybe because it was estimated by the photographer that in this way the picture will cause maximum outpouring of emotions, and will generate political and other reactions. Yet this is clear example of manipulation with the children for political purposes, and in this way such a picture should be deleted-Tritomex (talk) 17:28, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your argument does not hold for 2 reasons: your interpretation is purely political, and not based on facts. That's a bad start. How do you know that the child didn't make the tag himself? Secondly, we don't delete images on Commons, even if they are not politically correct. That's the policy. Yann (talk) 17:43, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do not deny that I have other problem with this kind of pictures beside privacy laws. Yet my argument is not solely based on political manipulations with children. To put your question in opposite direction, I would ask how do we know that the "child made a tag for himself"? If there are no evidences, I think we should presume otherwise. More, so, shouldn't children be protected from usage by political organizations for political (or propaganda) purposes? If we start with assumption that the child voluntarily contributed to this picture, we could tomorrow come to situation where we will justify, for example the use of children as human shields, with the same logic. Children do not have full responsibility, yet the adults who purposely involve them in any action, including a highly sensitive picture aimed to be put in Wikipedia, do have responsibility and must at least provide legal insurance from the parents and according to local/state lows.[[User:Tritomex|Tritomex] 23:21, 26 September 2012
Photos from that region and conflict will often also have some political meaning and might be used for propaganda. I think that is unavoidable if you want to show meaningful images from both "sides": File:9-years old Israeli boy Osher Twito copes with lost of his leg after Qassam exploded next to him in Sderot Israel.jpg, File:05 10 05 soldiers in old city 1.jpg.
Morally more important than a legal speculation based on unclear premises, IMO is the question whether the hosting of this image on Commons exposes the depicted boy to additional danger or results in additional (risk of) damage for him. As one can see from the image, the boy is not depicted in any demeaning manner; actually he looks rather indifferent. If there exists a potential risk for the boy, for example out of revenge by settlers or JDL for the negative PR, it was likely highest shortly after start of publication of this photo. The image was published already in 2005 and was widely re-published from that time on, as the Google- and TinEye-hitlists show[6],[7],[8] As this photo was shot more than 7 years ago, today the boy in the image will look rather different and will unlikely be recognized. Therefore, the hosting of this image on Commons, currently used only on :en Wikipedia, will unlikely have a substantial contribution to the potential risk for the depicted boy. --Túrelio (talk) 22:33, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
TBH, your opinion on WikiMedia Commons policy isn't relevant. 24.177.121.137 20:10, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One way to get out from this conundrum is, possibly, to ask cpt-org.com if they can ask the photographer who took this photo if he had permission from the boy or his tutor. I must say, however, that even if I understand the concerns with the personalty rights, in practical terms this kid must be now in his mid or late teens, and hardly recognizable on the street. We're not talking about a real child that is out there and will be possibly exploited, it's about an image of someone who was a child back in 2005.-- Darwin Ahoy! 22:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Considering Osher Twito we all know that his picture came to medias with the signed agreements by his parents in accordance with the Israeli law. He is not anonymous person and his parents, not Wikipedia bares full responsibility for any potential repercussion regarding pictures they(his parents) made public. In this case we do not know who the child is and how the picture was taken. Considering the age, if the picture was taken 7 years ago, (I don't know the date) I am sure that the child is still a minor according local laws.

Deleted I agree that it is unlikely that this image will harm the child, who is now much older, but it is still possible. I also understand that we have been told that the parents have accepted that responsibility.

Nonetheless, I am deleting this. Whatever our position on various conflicts around the world, those of us who are parents and grandparents can agree that the worst victims are the children on both sides. Count this as a vote for all the children -- a small step toward keeping them as far out of it as possible. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Orders of Russian Orthodox Church

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Russian Orthodox Church - not Russian Government department, PD-RU-exempt didn't applied --Sasha Krotov (talk) 19:27, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Enzo.barreto.14 (talk · contribs)

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unused user images, out of scope

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Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:03, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Spam, out of scope

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Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:04, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Oracle357 (talk · contribs)

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out of scope

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Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:04, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Darkreply (talk · contribs)

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Out of scope.

Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:20, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted 2 as duplicate. Yann (talk) 08:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Not notable -- out of scope .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:31, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by ENGAMAL (talk · contribs)

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Strongly doubt own work claim. Seems to be collected from different web pages.

Hedwig in Washington (Woof?) 05:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 08:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by MishaS14 (talk · contribs)

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Out of scope, no real description.

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Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:32, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Cromen (talk · contribs)

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These images don't have the original source and author listed. It's unlikely 'own work'.

Eleassar (t/p) 10:17, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence of valid permission. Finavon (talk) 20:06, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by MarleneBerlin (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing EXIF.

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Deleted: INeverCry 06:00, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Asri Maulida (talk · contribs)

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Looks like collection of promo/fan photos, not own work.

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Deleted: INeverCry 06:00, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by AmorPirata (talk · contribs)

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Out of Commons:Project scope: Commons is not private photoalbum. Not used.

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Deleted: out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 05:09, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Anhtoni (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolutions.

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Deleted: as above. Yann (talk) 09:05, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Shaduk (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing EXIF.

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Deleted: INeverCry 06:02, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Lbbohle (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing EXIF. Also may be out of Commons:Project scope because of notability and advertisement purposes.

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Deleted: INeverCry 06:02, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Alex guamis (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolutions, missing EXIF.

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Deleted: INeverCry 06:03, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Soront (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing EXIF.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 06:03, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Driftingonyx (talk · contribs)

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Likely copyright violations; judging by large number of deleted files in Special:Log/Driftingonyx, the uploader is apparently incapable of telling the difference between his or her own works and works created by others.

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Files uploaded by Duncan.Hull (talk · contribs)

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Doubtful authorship. In user flickr photostream can found very low resolution photos, derivative images, screenshots, covers, images from other sites (under a free license without the permission of the original authors) - obviously not original works. In particular, the exif data of one of the photographs indicated original author with contact details.

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Files uploaded by Duncan.Hull (talk · contribs)

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COM:TOYS; copyrighted design of LEGO Minifigures.

𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Gbawden (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by CoolR82 (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing EXIF.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I send you a message on your wall: Thank you for the quick answer. I uploaded some original versions, so you can check them. | Horváth Kitti.jpg | Lévay Júlia.jpg

and two examples for TEAM PHOTOS (u can check Kiss_klaudia.jpg and Németh_martina.jpg files): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kiss_Klaudia_in_the_team.jpg (1st line, 1st player) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:N%C3%A9meth_Martina_on_team_photo.jpg (5th player in the sitting line)

But its impossible to find every original versions, i have 5000+ images about my players, and i created these "cutted images" months or years ago for using on our website... It takes me for half an hour to find this four photos... These files are usually group photos, so i must cut off the player i want, and after that I make a new photo with "Create new from Clipboard" option. So, the original file have exif info, but - i don't know why - Photosuite don't save any exif info (filename only in exif, i checked).

| Varga Kitti.jpg is from Facebook, i confess. Is it okay to use facebook photos (she agreed, but how can I prove it...? ask her to send me the original file?..)?

--CoolR82 9:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


Deleted: User admits that these are not "own work", as claimed. Each one will probably require separate OTRS permission from its photographer. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:01, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The only evidence offered for the license is a statement on the back cover asserting that "Reproduction is authorised provided the source is acknowledged". This does not explicitly permit the creation of derivative works, which is required for any Commons-compatible license (see Commons:Licensing#Acceptable_licenses). It's also not clear whether the license is revocable. If a more explicit license statement could be obtained from someone authorized to represent the EU as a legal agent, that would be helpful. Dcoetzee (talk) 22:55, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader's comment: I'm glad someone's actually thinking about this. If we are indeed working on the principle of "guilty until proven innocent" for any publication where the licensing term isn't explicit about derivative works, then we have to defer one level up to the EU bookshop copyright notice here, which has restrictions to translations and would therefore imply delete. Deryck Chan (talk) 23:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Extra information:
  1. This booklet is available in dead tree form. I'm not sure if that has any implication on the revocability of the licence.
  2. The digital form of the booklet comes from here [9]. Deryck Chan (talk) 23:26, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I'm on the fence. Our rule is indeed, "guilty unless the uploader can prove otherwise", but I suspect that the intention here may be consistent with our needs. I think the question will come on commercial use -- suppose I started selling copies of this book for less that it can be purchased in paper form at the bookstore? That's common practice for US Government documents, but is the EU similarly inclined? .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:24, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    In that respect, I'm not worried at all. As you can see from the EU online bookstall, they don't ship it anymore. Paper copies are available for free (gratis) in the EU office in Brussels elsewhere. If you print and sell the book for money where there's no EU representation, the EU bookstall can't care; if you sell it somewhere where it's available for free, well you can't. Deryck Chan (talk) 22:42, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That does not answer the question of copyright and license. We explicitly discard the the point of view that "no one will care", see COM:PRP. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 22:46, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By "they can't care" I mean it's part of the copyright notice that reselling is explicitly permitted so long as proper attribution is given: Where the content of EU Bookshop publications is incorporated in works that are sold (regardless of their medium), the natural or legal person publishing the works must inform buyers, both before they pay any subscription or fee and each time they access the works, that the information taken from EU Bookshop publications may be obtained, in electronic format, free of charge through the EU Bookshop website. [10] Deryck Chan (talk) 22:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: THe final sentence above is the killer -- although I may use this commercially, I must inform any buyers that it is available free. That is not a free license. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 00:05, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]