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Original source says "Materials may be used for educational, non-commercial purposes only. Acknowledgement to be given to The REALIA Project and the photographer. Photographer retains copyright." I see nothing about Commons. --Wknight9403:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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gfdl is the wrong license for an image that has been made "about 1950" and of which the photographer is unknown. "no copyrights" is wrong -- BLueFiSH20:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The current version of this image is fine, as it is CC-by-2.0, but I stupidly saved it over a different image which is Non-Commercial. As a result, the old version needs deleting without deleting the current version. Smurrayinchester16:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, banknotes in France are covered by the same copyright as other artworks, ie 70 years after the author's death ; in this case, this file is a copyright violation. But maybe I'm wrong on this... -- le Korrigan→bla10:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is apparantly a "with-permission" image, and, even if licensed under GFDL, does not properly credit the copyright holder. Jkelly 20:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
We appear to have a disagreement over whether this image is licensed properly for commons.
Hubble images credited solely to NASA are PD as work of the US government. Normally, Hubble images that are co-credited to the ESA are copyrighted, and not usable because they have a non-commercial license. However, this Orion Nebula image is also available from www.spacetelescope.org [1], a site run by the ESA; at the bottom of that page is a link stating that the image is copyright-free. The copyright page does say that one is required to credit the ESA, which would slightly contradict a claim that the image is PD, but there's no restriction on commercial use (the other restrictions listed are to do with no-implied-endorsement-by-ESA and personal privacy rights, which are not copyright issues).
So, I'm arguing that the image is okay and should be kept; User:Denniss disagrees. I've placed the deletion request because I didn't want to see the image speedy-deleted, and would rather allow others to make a judgment. --Davepape21:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Hi, I looked through the licensing terms and while they do contradict a Copyright free claim, it does seem compatable with our project.
The condition ESA is credited as the source of the material (images/videos etc.). Please add other additional credit information that is posted together with the material. is compatable as we allow attribution requirements.
The condition The images may not be used to state or imply the endorsement by ESA or any ESA employee of a commercial product, process or service, or used in any other manner that might mislead. is not a right from the image's copyright, but a right they hold regarding withholding endorsement(independent of the image's copyright).
The condition If an image includes an identifiable person, using that image for commercial purposes may infringe that person's right of privacy, and separate permission should be obtained from the individual. does not apply.
The condition We encourage a copy of the product to be sent to us to be included in our archive. is not a requirement, though it would be nice to drop them a line.
I thought hard about all this when I uploaded the 18000x18000 version to the english wikipedia, I think it passes. While ESA images are not automatically compatable to our project like NASA, a clear declaration has been made in this case. Thanks for getting ahold of me, next time make sure you put a : infront of the image link though, ya crashed my browser hehe. HighInBC17:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think the template I used for licensing may have been a bit innacurate, I should have created a unique one, but I did put a link to the compatable terms. HighInBC18:05, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Teksten en afbeeldingen op de site mogen worden overgenomen op voorwaarde van bronvermelding (bureau Monumenten & Archeologie (bMA) van de gemeente Amsterdam), voor zover geen andere bron wordt vermeld.
Translation: Text and images from this site may be copied if the source is attributed bureau Monumenten & Archeologie (bMA) van de gemeente Amsterdam), if no other source stated.
Hi, I'm the user who imported this picture to commons. I'm not a licence expert but after talks with some people on the fr and nl projects it seems the licence granted by http://www.bmz.amsterdam.nl (i.e. This image can only be redistributed when mentioning the source: http://www.bmz.amsterdam.nl) is similar to the CC By ShareALike licence. Now if some commons licensing expert thinks it's wrong, that's fine with me, we delete it. --Effco22:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted as the image is a derivative work of the copyright Anne Frank book (and the image's copyright status itself is unclear). Yonatanh20:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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KeepChurches in Italy is the correct name. Commons uses the preposition in for near all building categories, and the matching category in the English Wikipedia is en:Category:Churches in Italy. It's very inconvenient to keep different forms of category names in the project. So, all items in Category:Churches of Italy have to be moved to this one, and so on for its subcategories. --Juiced lemon01:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It's not important if the categories are called in or of, but it's important to have just one cat. So please use the already existing cat. Cat-rename should be done by a bot only and for all countries. Currently 90% of the churches are in the of scheme. Please stick to this till a consensus is found. I see the need for a change since eg. churches are in the of scheme but buildings mostly in. That makes no sense. --Ikiwaner11:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe is in better. My mother tongue is not English, therefore I don't know if Churches in Italy sounds better like Churches of Italy. If I translated this words into German (in = in, of = von), in would be better.--Bo-rhein-sieg13:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
ack Bohreinsieg. Oxford Dictionary says: of followed by a n: belonging to something, being part of something. in as a prep: indicating place, a point within the area or space of sth. Therefore in would be better for all buildings. I vote for renaming all cats in the tree of Category:Churches by country to Category:Churches in xxx using User:Orgullobot
I don't really care about the category's name (I think "in Italy" is better though), but I do care about having more than one category for the exact same thing. Even a redirect is a bad idea because people will continue to put pictures in the wrong cat, spliting the same kind of media in two different places. Dantadd19:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
When a category name is incorrect, people will continue to categorize pictures with the correct category name and will (re)create the category if necessary (you can't do anything about it).
Regarding the preposition choice, consider “embassies of Germany” and “embassies in Germany”. Do you intuitively understand the difference?
2 links to help you:
The U.S. Embassy in Berlin (sic): According to Commons rules, we would say: “The embassy of the United States in Berlin”
I also think that the preposition in is the best choice for building categories in Commons, because it is widely used for building categories, and so we'll have less work to standardize the category names. --Juiced lemon20:04, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Today, I've still overheard this talk. It confirms that the of preposition suggests special features according to the place. With the current categorization of the en:Königsberg Cathedral, we could logically expect a Russian architecture, not only a location in this country. Therefore, I also think that “in Russia” would be better. Locations can be easily checked, then origins are controversial subjects: we don't need extra causes for argument. --Juiced lemon11:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you agree with the proposal of standardizing religious buildings categories with the preposition in, we are only 3 or 4 persons to take the decision. Is it sufficient to proceed this change?
I also prefer "in", but English is not my mother tongue, therefore it's not a "good" opinion. Anyway, the matter here lies in not having two categories for the exact same thing. Dantadd15:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The matching category is en:Category:Churches in Italy in the English Wikipedia; in is still used for all buildings categories. Therefore, we may assume that “Churches in Italy” is correct and comprehensive English.
In Commons, the issue is: Must we standardize or not the form of category names for all buildings?
Standardization allows to save a considerable amount of time when you categorize a media file, because you don't have to verify the category name.
It has be done recently for rivers. Now, the form for a river category is “Rivers of location”. So, if you have a new river to categorize, you search this river in the English Wikipedia, and you copy the bottom line with the category names. Then, you past this line in the new category and select the categories you want. When you get a red link like Category:Rivers of Kiribati, you need not to check if there is already a category for this subject. Anyway, if such category exists, it will be moved. --Juiced lemon16:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Two months ago, I listed here some categories to rename, and nothing has yet happened. If you can boost the process, I'll list the categories to rename tomorrow (only countries). --Juiced lemon18:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Now we have what I wanted to avoid: Some Churches cats with of and some with in :-( Is there no admin around who could rename cats? --Ikiwaner17:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I gave the priority to the standardization of country categories, because Category:Churches by country is a reference when somebody create a new category about churches. I made a request here.
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The picture comes from the webpage of the United States holocaust memorial museum. The museum is not an employer of federal government employees, so PD-USgov does not apply, the museum claims that it has a copyright on this image (image page, general disclaimer). PD-Germany does not apply (image isn't even 70 years old so the author cannot be dead for more than 70 years). So I don't see why this image is in the Public Domain. -- Matt31415:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Although this is a screenshot of the splash screen of a software under a free licence, it contains the software logo which has terms of usage that are too restrictive for Commons.[4] -- Zzyzx1109:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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This coat of arms is completely wrong (strange colours, form of pillar, rope is wound in the wrong direction). It has been replaced by Image:Freiamt blason.png which is the correct version. --Voyager17:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Suspected copyright violation. No evidence that the copyright holder of this image allows anyone to use it for any purpose. PC7819:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The copyright lasts until seventy years after the death of the architect. This building is not that old. The building is the main subject of the picture, and the picture is clearly made to show the building (not its surroundings), so the freedom of panorama doesn't apply. Sander Spek13:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Reading Article 18 of the Dutch copyright law, I don't see any notes that restrict the freedom if the building is the main subject of the picture. This is generally what freedom of panorama specifically applies to -- if a work is permanently in a public place, then pictures of that work (depicting it as shown in public) are not copyright violations. In such cases, I think the architectural copyright is more meant to prevent other architects from constructing similar buildings rather than preventing pictures. Some countries are different but from the looks of it, the Dutch law is pretty unambiguous on that point. Do you know of case law or other examples that may apply to contradict that? Carl Lindberg14:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A famous example is a bridge in Rotterdam. The architect has sued people publishing pictures of it. I'll try to find some English texts on this. Sander Spek15:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Carlos Botelho was born Sept 18 1899, Portugal. And died 1982. His work is still copyrighted. Tag used in the image says CC-BY-SA-2.5! -- Tarawneh04:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Licenza di Utilizzo di questa immagine Tutti i diritti riservati
Tutti i diritti sono riservati all'autore originario.
Non è possibile riutilizzare questa immagine al di fuori di questo sito web senza permesso dell'autore.
--gildemax15:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The GFDL OpenGeoDB locator maps of municipalities in Germany (example: Image:Karte Hoffeld in Deutschland.png) contain very much mistakes, due to wrong federal state borders. The maps were shown in the articles of the German municipalities and towns on the de.wikipedia. Now, there's the de:Vorlage:Infobox Ort in Deutschland which generates the location of all municipalities automatically (using the correct map Image:Karte Deutschland.png) so that the locator maps have become useless. On the de.wikipedia the images are deleted in these days. Well – I and Bdk will delete the locator maps the next days. --Bo-rhein-sieg15:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Now, almost all maps of towns/municipalities in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania are deleted but there are really many maps still used on de or other wikipedias.--Bo-rhein-sieg20:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You simply can't delete images without checking whether they are used. The map errors are not major ones, so redlinks are much more harmful than the errors. It really makes me angry, when people delete without spending any thougth on the wider consequences... --::Slomox::><03:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Fotopic always has "all rights reserved notice" regardless of whether the author wants it or not. I got email permission. Dunc|☺14:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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There is no explicit reason given for it to be PD. Not all images in the Library of Congress catalog are public domain, as stated here. It was taken on 1961 so it can't be PD-old. The LoC page states that Dan Budnik took the picture, so there is an author. Manuel Menal03:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the LoC is unsure of its status as well. It was part of a lot 10499-10 that was supposedly a 1963 gift from Magnum Photos, Inc. (who apparently represented Budnik), but the LoC states that it cannot find documentation to determine what the terms of the gift were. This feels a bit too uncertain to keep. Carl Lindberg06:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Click on the "Budnik, Dan, photographer" link on the photo page. That gives a list of results. For me, the first two links are to photos from the lot in question (one of which is the photo here), and the third link, titled "Activities and events in West Germany and Berlin, 1961", is a description of the lot itself. I can't seem to find a permanent URL to that page to link here, but that is where it mentions the 1963 gift and states that Publication may be restricted. For information see Magnum Photos (http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/res/075_magn.html). They usually mention that "There are no known restrictions on publication" if they think it's PD, but that is not present here. Obviously there was a gift of some kind, but it seems they can't dig up the terms. Of course they haven't taken the photo down either ;-) It is also possible that Magnum no longer represents Budnik or this image; not sure where the copyright ownership lies. Searching on the web mentions that Budnik did work for Magnum... this says Budnik began his career as a Magnum photographer. The PD status seems kind of cloudy... the rights page does seem to say something like "it may be PD but we're not sure so user beware". Carl Lindberg15:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hum, I see no reason to consider that if nothing is written, then it's public domain. If nothing is written, the copyright laws apply and that means we can't be sure we can even *distribute* this picture, let alone derivatives. It seems to me that the page Carl gave is directly related to this picture, and gives enough information to be sure it's at least not public domain — since Magnum claims the authors still have rights. But even if we don't take this page into account, there is no reason to believe that it is PD. Manuel Menal15:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure the LoC can help much... they've likely listed all the info they can find. They have an informative page which says they can't offer permission, since they do not own the works. That page does mention that the higher resolution images are not available unless they are PD (or at least the majority of photos in the corresponding collection are OK), and they are available for this image. This image probably comes under category #5 there. Maybe someone could contact Dan Budnik and find out if he owns copyright, or if Magnum would have? Feels like the most likely scenario is that Magnum owned the rights, made a gift 40+ years ago, and now no one can determine the terms of that gift. There may never be a way to figure this out for sure. Maybe we could use the Library's logic and keep it, but if we do it would be best to check with Budnik and/or Magnum to see if either have anything to say. Carl Lindberg04:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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To be tagged PD-50 the image needs to be in the public domain in the US (e.g. because published before 1923), as well. Therefore Delete --Matt31412:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I was wrong in putting this image here (I don't know why I thought I was on it.wiki, where it should be: it is a photo related to a meeting in it.wiki --MM18:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I was wrong in putting this image here (I don't know why I thought I was on it.wiki, where it should be: it is a photo related to a meeting in it.wiki --MM18:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Copyright violation. This image was previously nominated for speedy deletion but an administrator concluded it wasn't a copyright violation[6]. I can only guess that there must be some misunderstanding on his or my part on the applicability of Chinese copyright legislation. --meco09:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The book was published under no copyright claim, still no claimers now. And then China did not join international copyright treaties so the book cover was not protected.--Fanghong07:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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1.) propaganda icon without any encyclopedical values 2.) divisive and inflammatory 3.) composition is of minor graphical quality. --79015:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm nor sure how RfD on commons works, but is there a chance that this inflammatory work could be deleted? -- 79007:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's divisive propaganda, singling out a nation (and its religion?) under the guise of a broad political statement -- and it's not very helpful, to say the least. —Down1011:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep thats right, it's a propaganda sign but it's notable propaganda and the sign itself is used for exemple in boycott operations of israel products--Kimdime6922:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I wouldn't care too much about an "anti-Zionist" icon, but unfortunately the natural interpretation of this symbol would seem to be "I support the destruction of Israel"... AnonMoos07:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's not imflammatory because the Nazi party does not currently hold power, nor are they represented by an entire nation. --Down10
3.) It's an often used symbol. Just because it's simple it's not "of minor graphical quality" (it should be easy to remember and recreate; just like a flag). Again, see above: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Anti-Nazi-Symbol.svg
Your own image description "Usage: Symbol can be used by anti-imperialists and anti-zionists" shows best that your only purpose is to foster political POV. Furthermore, your answers show that any attempts of objective discussion of these topics with you are a complete waste of time. Calling a symbol striking out an existing state not divisive and inflamatory, but a promotion of humanity and not hate, and asking with no matter real or rhetorical naivité why Israel is not the same as Nazi Germany, just adds to that picture. Obviouly you are unable to distinguish between wikimedia projects, which are about knowledge, and those which are about voicing controversial political points of view. -- 79019:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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1.) propaganda icon without any encyclopedical value, the claim that this symbol is widely used is dead wrong 2.) divisive and inflammatory 3.) composition is of minor graphical quality --79015:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This thing has been on RfD for 2 months now, and no proof has been given that it is not a private invention of the user who uploaded it, what I do strongly assume. It is used nowhere, and it is even incorrectly catgorized, as an "anti-logo", which is not, because it doesn't say anti this or that, but just capitalism = nazism, which may be an anti message moraly, but strictly speaking just makes strong Pov assertions. Please delete. -- 79007:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't seen this flag before, but generally, flags used by the anarchists vary and many are home made. I see other flags in the uploader's list that are based off the Nazi-flag, with the user creating and uploading Image:Anti-zionist.svg, I can see why you are concerned. Delete this image. User:Zscout370(Return fire)14:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
immediate delete. this is pure propoganda attemtping to associate anticapitalism with nazism. ironically, i doubt nazis were anticapitalistic.lygophile10:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Hallo Lyzzy. Ich verstehe deine Löschbegründung schlicht nicht, kannst du mir bitte erklären, welchen Anlass zur Löschung du hier siehst? Grüsse, SilverSrv06:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Lyzzy. I simply cant understand your deletion reason. Please inform me about your motive for this deletion request. Greetings, SilverSrv06:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hallo SilverSrv, das Foto ist zwar bei flickr unter creative commons lizenziert, es zeigt aber die Sparefroh-Figur, die 1955 erschaffen wurde. Die Figur selbst ist urheberrechtlich geschützt. Daher können auch eigene Zeichnungen, Fotos von Figuren und ähnliches nicht unter eine freie Lizenz gestellt werden. Das ist vergleichbar mit Bildern von Comicfiguren, siehe de:WP:BR#Produktfotos (Marken, Cover, Comicfiguren, ...). --Lyzzy21:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The creator of the Orbiter Sim is imposing the restrictions on the software program and code itself. Meanwhile, the screenshots of the software in action are regularly found on many aerospace websites, and the creator of the software has publicly acknowledged on the project's forums that he has no problems with he images being used in any way. This is because all of the 3D models - such as the cockpit in this image - are created by the community and not the render engine creator. This can be easly resolved by posting a comment on the projects forums. --Turbinator23:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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This is the normal situation; the author keeps his work copyrighted but gives a GFDL-released copy. What you need to assert is that User:Matses is the true author.
From User talk:Matses: [8]. What more should be provided? Have anyone tried to come in touch with User Matses? Roarjo07:13, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Matses is not the true author. By accident, I used the wrong image tag. I have corrected this error by removing the GFDL tag that was previously added by me in error. This image was created and copyrighted by someone else. Sorry about the confusion. --Matses11:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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cover of Brazilian book that is not in public domain. The user inserted it by his inexperience, not with second intentions. The discussion may be read here (in PT - topic:Obrigado pela dica!!). Tonyjeff15:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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It has no source given, and no license. The source is probably here, although it shows up on a couple of other poster sites too so there is no guarantee that site owns the copyright either. Still, no way it qualifies for commons. DeleteCarl Lindberg07:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Incorrect colors, details and proportions. Vandalism to spam Wikipedia articles with this version of the Swedish national CoA. Camptown11:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect colors, details and proportions. Vandalism to spam Wikipedia articles with this version of the Swedish national CoA. Camptown11:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As Thuresson pointed out, I created the image in line with the official blazoning. This was in order to support the Transition to SVG and to create arms which are entirely free (in both senses of the word). The key issue, however, is that it is trivial to tidy up problems of colouring, detail and proportion. Rather than trying to delete these images, why not correct them yourself or contact me to ask me to change them? Finally, I do not see how this can be considered vandalism; I was simply being bold about this. Surely wanting to delete these would do more damage then tidying them up? Arcjgh10:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Incorrect colors, details and proportions. Vandalism to spam Wikipedia articles with this version of the Swedish national CoA. Camptown11:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As Thuresson pointed out, I created the image in line with the official blazoning. This was in order to support the Transition to SVG and to create arms which are entirely free (in both senses of the word). The key issue, however, is that it is trivial to tidy up problems of colouring, detail and proportion. Rather than trying to delete these images, why not correct them yourself or contact me to ask me to change them? Finally, I do not see how this can be considered vandalism; I was simply being bold about this. Surely wanting to delete these would do more damage then tidying them up? Arcjgh10:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Incorrect colors, details and proportions. Vandalism to spam Wikipedia articles with this version of the Swedish national CoA. Camptown11:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As Thuresson pointed out, I created the image in line with the official blazoning. This was in order to support the Transition to SVG and to create arms which are entirely free (in both senses of the word). The key issue, however, is that it is trivial to tidy up problems of colouring, detail and proportion. Rather than trying to delete these images, why not correct them yourself or contact me to ask me to change them? Finally, I do not see how this can be considered vandalism; I was simply being bold about this. Surely wanting to delete these would do more damage then tidying them up? Arcjgh10:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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There had been various discussions on de-WP and en-WP already since 2004 that led to the conclusion a single national flag for Austria-Hungary did not exist. Austria and Hungary had their national flags on their own (black-yellow in Austria and red-white-green with the royal coat of arms in Hungary). Common Austrian-Hungarian flags were only in use for common duties. That means there had been a war flag for the military (k.u.k. Armee) and a common merchant flag (or civil ensign) used by merchant vessels. However the rest of the state duties has been administered separately by both Austria and Hungary and so a single national flag was not in use, and simply not needed. This image shown here depicts the Austrian-Hungarian merchant flag without the Austrian and Hungarian coats of arms. Such a flag did not exist but some flag lexicons on the internet started to present such a flag as a national Austrian-Hungarian flag some years ago, maybe because their maintainers did not know better. So you can regard this flag as a hoax. You won't find this in a printed flag lexicon. So this image should be deleted. --AlexF11:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Before you go about this, at least consider this information found on the Flags of the World site:
"This was the joint Austro-Hungarian flag brought in sometime after the 1867 "Ausgleich" or "Compromise", which gave Hungary home rule. The version I'm familiar with was the joint naval ensign which has crowned shields for Austria (red-white-red) and Hungary (traditional Hungarian arms) on the white stripe(s). Presumably at some point the black-over-yellow of "Cisleithania" was dropped for the red-white-red once more.
Roy Stilling, 1 December 1995
The year 1867 is the year when the Habsburg Empire was, by Compromise, dualized into Austria-Hungary. The flag was not actually adopted until two years later (1869), and used until 1918."
This is no proof of existence of a common Austrian-Hungarian national flag. As far as I see does the author of these lines only refer to the (civil) naval ensign and remarks that the only version he knows about of a flag of this colour scheme is the flag with the two coats of arms of Austria and Hungary. That would be indeed the merchant flag that was introduced in 1869. However the coats of arms are missing here. --AlexF03:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Should be Leucospermum conocarpodendron with an extra "o". I have created the right page, ammended the picture names and uploaded new pictures. Similarly
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It is claimed the Hitler rail carriage photo is a National Archives Photo (page 199) this would make it PD Madmax31
Delete Not all images in the National Archives are in the public domain. And I doubt that an US official was present in that moment taking the image. --ALE! ¿…?17:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
At the time I created it, this was A VERY COMMON PD group on en.wp, and I was contemplating, and still am pushing for (via emails to Jimbo, programmers, etc.) an automated facility to tag images on en.wp with a trigger template signifying they satisfied the needs here. It seemed silly to have a PD threshold tag there that was in need of a compensentory edit here. Since 70 years after the death of the author/owner is a critical factor in US law for copyrights, it is a good tagging label.
My suggestion here, is to take and just redirect the tag (#REDIRECT [[Template:PD-old]]) which would maintain the categories of PD-old and inherit them across both template names. If in fact we eventually do get some labor-saving automation into Transfering qualifying images from en.wp (or any) to the Commons,...
We're talking about files on the same machines (servers) in the same buildings some of the time!!! Why have a human lurk and slow things down!!! Vett the change, yes. That's where the trigger template comes in... applied by someone familar with both category schemes, as is the case with ongoing 'preparation' to move qualifying files here. But the actual transfer is an administrative entry in the two database records, and and need not involve actual bit transfers at all.
... If that concept gets a fair wind, then the redirect of tagging will be necessary (and sensible) for many such equivilent tags. Hence the proper software infrastructure is a Template redirect... which is totally hidden and transparent to the user. At some point, a BOT could be used in the what links here page of the redirecting template to go and fix all the occurances up to the preferred name.
In sum, keep it as a redirected version for compatibility with cross-transfers (uploads) from en.wp image files ready to be moved here, were it not so time consuming. There are hundreds ready and vetted already, after all. // FrankB13:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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It is claimed the Hitler rail carriage photo is a National Archives Photo (page 199) this would make it PD Madmax31
Delete Not all images in the National Archives are in the public domain. And I doubt that an US official was present in that moment taking the image. --ALE! ¿…?17:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
At the time I created it, this was A VERY COMMON PD group on en.wp, and I was contemplating, and still am pushing for (via emails to Jimbo, programmers, etc.) an automated facility to tag images on en.wp with a trigger template signifying they satisfied the needs here. It seemed silly to have a PD threshold tag there that was in need of a compensentory edit here. Since 70 years after the death of the author/owner is a critical factor in US law for copyrights, it is a good tagging label.
My suggestion here, is to take and just redirect the tag (#REDIRECT [[Template:PD-old]]) which would maintain the categories of PD-old and inherit them across both template names. If in fact we eventually do get some labor-saving automation into Transfering qualifying images from en.wp (or any) to the Commons,...
We're talking about files on the same machines (servers) in the same buildings some of the time!!! Why have a human lurk and slow things down!!! Vett the change, yes. That's where the trigger template comes in... applied by someone familar with both category schemes, as is the case with ongoing 'preparation' to move qualifying files here. But the actual transfer is an administrative entry in the two database records, and and need not involve actual bit transfers at all.
... If that concept gets a fair wind, then the redirect of tagging will be necessary (and sensible) for many such equivilent tags. Hence the proper software infrastructure is a Template redirect... which is totally hidden and transparent to the user. At some point, a BOT could be used in the what links here page of the redirecting template to go and fix all the occurances up to the preferred name.
In sum, keep it as a redirected version for compatibility with cross-transfers (uploads) from en.wp image files ready to be moved here, were it not so time consuming. There are hundreds ready and vetted already, after all. // FrankB13:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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PD-art does not apply because it is a three dimensonal work. The photo itself is most likely still copyrighted since it is taken from a book published 1999. -- Matt31410:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I thought this image is in essence two-dimensional, since it does not allow for any of the creativity involved in the shooting of a 3D object (which is the rationale for allowing 3D images of ancient objects to remain copyrighted). Even a recent photograph of a 2D ancient picture is supposed to be free of rights. Regards. PHGCOM21:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The very concept is an approximate one, as described on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upland_South .. That page also has several references from which the map was made. I didn't just make it up. There are lots of map requests on wikipedia and lots of the maps are made "from scratch". If that is original research, then most of the maps on wikipedia should be deleted. As for "too aproximate", how else would you suggest showing on a map where a region with imprecisely defined boundaries is located? Pfly03:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems to reflect well the non-definite delineation between Deep and Upper South. Verifiable sources back this up.
--Gator8715:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The licesne information says image is public domain and a work of the US government but the image looks like a copyright violation from a celebrity web site. ksfan15:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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NC & ND Creative Commons image - flickrreview advising this predates image upload (strangely) so it would have been NC & ND when it was uploaded. --Alexj200221:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
it has to be deleted. It was my mistake to put the wrong licence because I missunderstood the difference between the several grades of Creative Commons. --Herrick09:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment-- Has certain artistic appeal... could be an inspiration for the world seen by a drunken congressman--we've had have enough over the years! Abstain, proxy to uploader should he defend it. //FrankB13:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't follow why this image is GFDL when it is clipped from a news web site as shown in the source. If it's copyright free it's probably got the wrong license. I can't read the language though. ksfan16:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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That page seems to suggest attribution-only type licence: "Any use or reproduction of material deposited with the Florida Photographic Collection shall be allowed pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (1)(b) and subsection (4), provided that appropriate credit for its use is given." 68.39.174.23822:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No material from WWW.DOS.STATE.FL.US or any Web site owned, operated, licensed or controlled by THE STATE OF FLORIDA or DOS may be copied, reproduced, republished, uploaded, posted, transmitted, or distributed in any way, except that you may download the materials on any single computer for your personal, non-commercial use only, provided you keep intact all copyright and other proprietary notices.A.J.09:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Image was used in the german Wikipedia, now it is replaced by an empty map with a script, that points the red dot on the right place, so this image can be deleted
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not covered by freedom of panorama (Panoramafreiheit) as this work ist only temporary in public area. The poster itself has still copyright (autor for sure not long enough dead) ...SicherlichPost17:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Annington is reselling a whole residential area. This advertisement covers a metal plate with steel pipes and a basement made of concrete and is planned to be there permanently for several years on a public street. Therefore the photography is allowed due to § 59 of German copy right law. Compare Freedom of panorama. Keep -- Simplicius20:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
its there permanently? so they dont want to sell the buildings? And they will not change the price? This advertisment has a concret time when it ends: at the moment they sold all houses. Might be even earlier. As usually for advertising they probably change it anyways before; e.g. the price. Or they dont like the foto anymore aso ...SicherlichPost21:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Only some houses will be sold during a period of several years.
so they keep the houses but leave a message that they want to sell them? or they sell the houses but still advertise that you might buy them? that advertising is planned to be for longer period does not change that in this case there is a planned ending of the advertisment; when all houses are sold; as it makes no sense to have it longer. ...SicherlichPost13:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Durable in the sense of the German law means that there is no finite end. It is not clear when or whether it will be removed before the end of natural lifetime.
The open end is rather usual for large amounts of real estates taken over by private equity funds (Annington, Cerberus, Terra, Corpus et al) -- Simplicius14:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason for deletion request: picture of an irrelevant person who wrote an article about himself in the german wikipedia (there is no more article any longer) --D-Kuru22:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Wrong license, the maps from this website are licensed under cc-nc-sa, not cc-by-sa --Finanzer 23:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
License updated for Kirschner-genealogic-map-de.png, as i have forgoten des request for Kirschner-genealogic-map-at.png this may still by deleted. But i try to get that alowence as well. --Q1712 01:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC) and for Kirschner-genealogic-map-at.png as well --Q171223:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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This photo was taken probably between about 1925 and 1930, and is thus 76-81 years old. The photographer is not sourced, but I see no reason to believe he must have died before 1936, therefore this is not public domain. This image was deleted from the English Wikipedia for just this reason. For further background, please see en:Josephine Baker --Dgies06:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Suspected copyright violation but can't prove it. The image shows a German film director. I haven't got any evidence other than the image subject seems to be a celebrity posing for the camera. It would be unusual for an amateur to be able to take a photo like this. There are similar images on Google but can't find this exact one. --ksfan12:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The German film director send me this photo in an email for free using in press and internet. So it have correctly no copyright and free for wikimedia. --BalticSea13:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know who took the photo please and when? Are you certain it has a "public domain" license and is not copyright with permission for free use or some other license? Can you be absolutely sure there are no restrictions whatsoever on use of this image? --ksfan14:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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License is wrong. "Amtliches Werk" applies to texts only. Since there is no evidence given that the image creator died before 1936, it will have to be deleted. --80.122.23.1810:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I took the pics, I edited them, I resized them, I sharpened them. So they are not the oroginal. Dali, or whoever has the copyright on the original and the exact replica, size and everything. I knew that so I edited it and it now does not look like the original, except the pic. I took the pic, so my ownership. --Edgar Allan Poe08:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Take a Mikey Mouse, edite, resize, colorize... it, and talk with Walt Disney if its free. Its a derivative work based on a copyrighted work. You own nothing, else your work, and descendants of Dali own more you, you need there agreements. ~ bayo or talk14:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ack Bayo. All of this is clearly explained in Commons:Derivative works. Plus, your deliberately tweaking the picture (while attributing it to Dalí) could be construed as a derogatory treatment of Dalí's artwork, thus a breach of his moral rights. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 15:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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These images are under the Commons:Project scope. These images are free alternates to use on articles at Portuguese Wikipedia, with support of that community. The question of a derivative work from a copyrighted picture or photo don't have a clear evidence for all images, only suppositions. Because this debate don't have received any new complaints since the last argue from Manuel Anastácio on 28 December 2006, the result is all kept. Images that have a clear evidente of a derivative work from a copyrighted photo or picture can be deleted in ohter deletion debate. This is closed because the main plean — outside of project scope — is false. Lugusto • ҉23:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The user seems to have misunderstood Commons as an art community. Although I have notified him about Commons:Project scope ("Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. [...] self created artwork without educational purpose and such."), he continues to upload his personal artwork. Only a small number of his pictures is compliant to policy and can be kept. He also continues uploading fan art, which is a copyright violation. I guess he does not understand the whole situation; he also does not speak English. If anybody speaks his language, please explain him that personal artwork is against policy and fan art is against law. He is free to publish his stuff on his personal homepage, or on deviantart etc. Rtc16:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. List files to deletion individually. In your own words: a small number of his pictures is compliant to policy. Because this user uploads a small number of his pictures compliants to policyall images from him need to be deleted? Lugusto • ҉02:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No. I thought it was obvious which ones are okay and which ones need to be deleted. But we have a language problem. Please see User talk:Rtc#Fan art. Can somebody please help as a translator, please? --Rtc07:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I added a list of problematic pictures. Please note that a lot of works I merely tagged with COM:PS are in fact also a copyright violation, since he took some photo and used it as a template. Compare, for example, [15] and Image:Rachel Q.jpg. This is clearly a derivative work. Also note Image:Oz Dorothy and Toto by Koehne.jpg where somebody noted it was based on a movie, not drawn. Did he actually draw any of his pictures himself or did he always only copy the distinctive features of template photos and pictures to circumvent their copyright protection? (Such "tricks" don't work anyway, see COM:DW, "And no, it doesn't matter whether...") --Rtc11:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your listing. Unfortunately I can try to help you with Andre only if he don't understand a message sent from you to him. My English is very basic to translate a message from Portuguese to English :(. To write these lines I spend a lot of time trying to write something understandable by others. Lugusto • ҉17:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Only use COM:ET. What does "GNU" mean? There are several GNU licenses, and if he licensed it under "GNU", why does it claim to be cross-licensed under CC-by-sa?
Image:Xisto Bahia.jpg is used at pt:Xisto Bahia. I don't know if it is derivated from a copyrighted picture or if it is a draw based in historical relats. Keep, I need more info to vote for delete and Keep until the pt.wp reject this for a article.
Thanks for cross-checking. Yes, a few of the original might actually be PD-old—but then we can take them directly, no need for drawings. Also note that I listed only those URLs of originals which I found by a really quick google image search. I do not believe for a second that he did the others himself, without template. After the already quite univocal result it's way too obvious that he derived them all from copyrighted photos without permission, just in the same way. So it's quite reasonable to delete the others, too, since they are strongly suspected to be copyright violations. (Sad for him... I guess he put really lots of work into them and didn't know that it wasn't legal.) --Rtc21:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rtc, I think you are wrong on majority cases, I agree with 555. I'm sorry, but a lot of draws simply NO have relation with some images that you found on Google Images, and I really believe that he (André) made a original drawn on majority cases. Note that the Andre still have some confusion or mistakes about derived works on few works, but I'll talk personally with him about it, don't worry. --- What we can make for now is to use to advantage the beautiful works that are clearly legitimate and put for elimination those that is doubtful. What you made, putting "all" to eliminate was a serious offence and injurious. FMLhello07:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly disagree. Commons needs to eliminate pictures with cultural content (ie., art) drawn by commons users themselves, because they have no educational value. Commons is not an art community and not a place for people to put their personal art online. As the situation currently looks to me, André took some photos from the web and perhaps scanned some others, and then he traced them with pencil and/or computer program. It is rather a serious offence and injurious to upload such pictures to commons in the first place—it should be clear to anybody that it is not the purpose of commons to give hobby artists a platform for their crude steps into art, in this case even paired with excessive plagiarism, and that people actually use these images in Wikipedia is simply a sad but true joke. Commons is a serious project and we must not accept such attacks on its integrity. And it is simply not true that "a lot of draws simply NO have relation with some images". One of them is very similar, though not exactly a match: It should be clear that it was changed slightly or taken from a different photo of the same series (Image:Carlo_Collodi_and_Pinochio.jpg vs. [17]). Some photos are quite a good match, but are very distorted (Image:John_Dewey_caricat.jpg vs. [18], Image:Rachel_arte.jpg vs. [19], [20] vs. Image:Gal_Costa_caricature.jpg) Image:Nilo_M_Coelho.jpg vs. [21] to me matches very well, after mirroring vertically. But I admit that these may be corner cases concerning the image I proposed as source, yes. However it should be clear that tracing existing photos is his very standard method, and as I already said, even if I didn't find every single source, I do not believe for a second that he did the others in a much different way, and you should not believe that either. We must not keep pictures like these only because false shame is preventing us from hurting a user by telling him the truth that his art is not welcome at Commons, because it is not relevant, outside project scope and also mostly plagiarism and copyright violation. Considering all this, it should be clear that "Keep all!" is not an option. --Rtc20:06, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You wrote: "Commons needs to eliminate pictures with cultural content (...)" --- are you crazy or are you joking? Happy new year! FMLhello02:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You only can be playing/kidding/joking with me and Commons, man, really. The images that you sent above absolutely do NOT have relation with the drawings that also placed. As well as a text, it is possible to see an image, to interpret it and to draw it of its form. It isn't derivation. Sure that they are similar, are the same people! Are you kidding? FMLhello02:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And, art isn't educational value? Please, man, read again the Commons documentation. Our objective is to be useful, the most useful possible for all projects of the Wikimedia, thinking also about future, being GFDL above all. The motto of GFDL is to be useful, not necessary accurate. The personal effort of each person here on Commons is so that the Wikipedia and other projects becomes most illustrated possible. I believe that the effort of André has been very well recognized and admired in the portuguese Wikipedia. Much people make asked drawn for him, and he make the drawns for all! Now, because your serious offence, because your irresponsibility, he is very sad and let portuguese Wikipedia for now. Sincerely, you let me sick. FMLhello02:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think each image should be analysed separately, and 555 made a good start already. I have to say i agree that most of them are against the rules and were made based on a template, but i would also like to point out that all of them were made with good intents and that i dont believe the objective of the user was to use Commons as a platform for his art. Unfortunately the drawings will have to be analysed and some of them deleted, but i hope André understands it and knows we respect his hard work. Lusitana08:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just want to say that the drawing from Salazar (as I draw it) is obviously a "derivation" from others photos (not only one) with copyright!!! That's inevitable: the man is dead!!!! But do as you wish. I don't care. Manuel Anastácio09:20, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are two points i would like to mention. One is that i think the images cannot be considered as out of the project scope. They were made to illustrate articles in the Wikipedia, not to promote a personal hobby, as the user specifically says: he doesnt do that for a living and doesnt want to. The second point refers to the fact that some of the drawings are derivative works. But reading the page mentioned before, i cannot find any specific references to this type of case. Is a creative reinterpretation also considered as a copy with consequences in terms of licence (copyright violation)? What if i make a drawing of a building built last year? Does that also count as a derivative work not allowed here? Lusitana18:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, the intention of André is irrelevant for matters of project scope. Project scope is an objective criterion independent of the intentions of users; what users can contribute are technical, educational pictures or photos—such work is inside project scope. However, this category is to be separated strictly from non-educational pictures, that is pictures with cultural content. Such works can be accepted only if the artist is relevant, which roughly means that he is relevant enough to have a Wikipedia article about him. Is André relevant? Obviously not. So yes, actually, that he does not do that for a living is one of the very issues here. Compare this to the Original Research policy of Wikipedias, which strictly forbids including such pictures in articles anyway. Also, it should be clear that, while reaffirming that he does "not to promote a personal hobby" may or may not correspond to his personal intentions, it certainly does not correspond to reality: He is actually earning a lot of promotion for his person by the prominent presentation of his pictures on the Wikipedia. Intention is not something we can reasonably argue about; either everyone is permitted to put his personal, original research artwork into commons and the wikipedia, or nobody is; and the better choice is obviously the second. About the derivative works issue, yes, "creative reinterpretation" (which most of his pictures are not; they are merely drawn 1:1 to—I guess so he believed—circumvent copyright) is actually one of the very cases that are falling into the core area of derivative work. Just think about it for a second—If such "creative reinterpretation" would be permitted, people would certainly do it excessively and sell the results for money. It would lead copyright ad absurdum. --Rtc20:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Buildings are usually visible from streets and are installed permanently. For this case, some countries have exceptions from copyright. See COM:FOP. --Rtc12:53, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just want to know: do you think this drawing is a derivative Work? I saw that Lugusto thinks it is. But I haven´t used any template. I've just saw many photos from Salazar and draw by myself. André just have done some modifications (because I had uploaded the drawing in Creative Commons) that turned the drawing close to one specific photo from Salazar that you link above. I just want to know if my original drawing is, also, considered for deletion. Manuel Anastácio23:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And that image is an "educational picture" - not "cultural content".
But I think that some of the "cultural content" from many pictures of André are relevant and educational (and useful to many articles, like Image:Method Paulo Freire.jpg). Your statement, above - "However, this category is to be separated strictly from non-educational pictures, that is pictures with cultural content." is amazing!!! All the pictures have cultural content, as have it a photo of a plant or a bird! And we accept them from "non relevant" photographers! ... Manuel Anastácio23:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, [22] has to be deleted, too, for the same reasons: It's outside of project scope and it is also a derivative work. Don't be dishonest, we both know that it didn't emerge from "saw many photos from Salazar and draw by myself", but you used [23] as a template and derived it from exactly that. Don't deceive yourself by fooling yourself that you are really that good painter as the picture suggests. You are not. You simply plagiarized a photographic work. It may have cost you a lot of labour, perhaps some skill, etc., but it isn't something to be proud of and certainly not something that can be accepted here. We both know you wouldn't have produced anything like this hadn't you used a template. It may sound harsh, but it's the truth. --Rtc11:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, almost each photograph (except mug shots etc.) has inherently some cultural content in some way or another, I agree. But we need to distinguish between works where the cultural aspect is clearly in the foreground and where it is clearly in the background. If a picture clearly emphasizes the artistic aspect, then it does not belong to Commons. That's the case with André's pictures, and we need to draw a line here, since COM:PS is not for being ignored arbitrarily even in this unambiguous case. deviantart would really be a better place for such stuff (wouldn't it be copyright violation). --Rtc11:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rtc: I'm not being dishonest: and I'm not a good painter, indeed. The image is not a derivative Work - and not similar to [24] - But the man is same! I Was seeing many photos from Salazar when I draw it - and you can see it perfectly: the shadows, the nose, the look, etc, is not the same! It is absolutely another Work!... Manuel Anastácio15:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And it is not outside of project scope: it's the only way I saw to illustrate the article about Salazar. It has educational purposes. If you think I've done plagiarism (that's not harsh, but that's not the truth) please, delete it - I understand it, because I think I'm no better than the others contributors, and if they have not the benefit of the doubt, I don't have it too. I realy don´t care. But see well the two pictures (the photo and the drawing - the face has the same position, indeed - I preferred this one, with one ear out of sight, as we can see in the photo you showed, but that is the only similarity). But, as I said: delete it. I don't care!... Manuel Anastácio15:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
An image does not need to be "similar" to be a derivative work (but I consider it clearly as similar; to me there is no doubt it was derived from this photo). It is outside of project scope since it is primarily artistic interpretation, apart from the copyright problems, without technical content. Educational use for such pictures might be demonstration of a certain drawing technique or style, but its actual use does not match that: It illustrates the person itself and that's its very intention. Note that the purpose of Wikipedia is not primarily to get articles illustrated, but to create free content. I disagree that there is no other way to illustrate the article: You can also simply pay for it. It might cost quite some several hundred grand to get a compatible (ie., unlimited, commercial) license for such a original photo, but copyright is not lifted for pictures for which a license is costly; the contrary is true. Copyright is there to protect the commercial exploitation from cheap imitation (It's actually similar to the argumentation of stealing something one cannot afford.) --Rtc13:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point of view (not about the "plagiarism", of course, but about the purpose of Wikipedia, that is not primarily to get articles illustrated, but to create free content). I just believe that this image is, really, free content and not derivative Work. But that is only my opinion... I'd need the opinion of a expertise on the copyright law to be sure of anything. And I don´t agree that this image is primarily artistic (it is, really, a "cheap" picture - but not a "cheap imitation")! If it is, all the images are! Including photos! Manuel Anastácio18:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Uploader received permission from a fan web page to publish this photo on Wikipedia. Uploader interpreted the permission as GFDL. In September I asked uploader for more details about this but never received a reply. --Thuresson06:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete : Not sure than the webmaster was owner of rigths on this pic. Not clear acceptance about free license include commercial and derivate. Oxam Hartog22:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Reasons for deletion request Sedmic02:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The image is incorrectly identified as a crystal structure. It is instead a solution structure. It has been replaced by IL13_Solution_Structure.rsh.png on all linked pages.[reply]
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Reasons for deletion request Sedmic02:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The original image is a solution structure and was mistakenly referred to as a a crystal structure. It has been replaced with IL8_Solution_Structure.rsh.png which is more accurate.[reply]
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All of which are STONRGLY suspect as uploads of a comfirmed sockpuppet of Primetime, a banned-by-Jimbo copyright violator and vandal. I've not listed the ones that I suspect to be actually free, including Image:Sailboat Diagram.gif, which I strongly believe actually IS free. Note the first 5 pics of Palau are blatantly obviously scanned in from a book, and his willingness to claim {{PD-self}} on Image:Marina at Koror, Palau.jpg, which clearly comes from (www.britannica.com/eb/art-12436) the Encyclopedia Britannica! This last trait is classic Primetimery and casts the strongest doubt on the rest of these "PD-self" images. I reccomend all these be deleted as infamous plagiarism. 68.39.174.23822:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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It cannot be in public domain because the author of the image died very recently, 5-10 years ago. I also don't believe that he could give such a permission to a user who published it. MaxiMaxiMax07:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Unfree image? Copy righted: Gerard Kuster; Please correspond with ITC for use of the picture. - this statement was added by an IP, originally it was GFDL. GeorgHH12:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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This pic is present on this page : http://www.peoplespark.org/69gall3.html Photo is by Kathryn Bigelow. This site is a militant site whithout copyright policy but no copyright claimed do not mean image on free licence. I think the uploader has to give the Kathryn Bigelow' ok . If not, for me, this pic could not stay here. -- Oxam Hartog00:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I put this pic here because it is unclearly a copyvio because the copyright policy is not existing on original militant site. I don't want take position on this pic myself and I prefer let uploader or other people interrested try to get the photograph permission. Oxam Hartog00:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The owner of rights on this pic is the photographer. Just him (or her in this case) can give agreement to publication. If you know Kathryn Bigelow you can try to contact her for agreement (be carefull, this agreement has to give by author and stored in OTRS sytemOxam Hartog23:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep : Excuse-me but the Copyright rule says that the author of the PHOTO has to be dead 70 years ago. Since this photo correspond to Mr. Petterssen in Norwegian uniform, pre-Second World War (see his bio), the photo is at least 70 years of age and the photograph is likely dead that long. So the copyright of the photo has expired long ago.
Pierre cb04:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Copyright violation suspected. According to image talk permission to use this image comes from artist's agent. Mr. Tomasz Drzewiński did not respond to my email since Nov 30. A.J.16:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Image of user from deleted userpage User talk:BBan on en:Wikipedia: not potentially usable by any current or future Wikimedia project. Doug Bell00:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I uploaded that one. At the time, I didn't know SeaWiFS was covered by a different OrbImage agreement that precluded commercial use, so its ok to delete it. Titoxd(?!?)03:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the SeaWiFS page says, "All SeaWiFS images and data presented on this website [emphasis mine] are for research and educational use only." It doesn't mean that they can't release their images under a free license. This happens occasionally on NASA Earth Observatory. For example, this image is by Space Imaging and the page states that it's copyrighted. However, this image is also by Space Imaging and NO copyright statement is evident. If anything, we should contact NASA EO at eo-contact at eodomo/gsfc/nasa/gov and find out for sure. howcheng {chat}17:16, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
SeaWiFS data become public domain five years after collection (see Data Distribution Policy in [25]). Most of the SeaWiFS pictures on commons are older than that and should be okay, but some, like Image:STS Nicole 2004.jpg, aren't. Since GeoEye (formerly Orbimage) owns the commercial rights, NASA by themselves are not in a position to make the images free. --Davepape01:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Sometime after that, another user (or a bot apparently) changed the license to release the copyright, without my consent. I'm not sure if it's new policy that images can't be used anymore unless they're copyright-free, but in that case I'd rather keep my copyright and not have this image on wikipedia. 169.229.99.21822:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Upon further review, I may have inadvertently released, rights for this, when I had originally intended to use this: [27]. My original intention was to allow wikipedia only to use it, and when I uploaded this initially, the explanation on the image upload page seemed to point to this tag for what I wanted to do (the explanation was a bit vague). The original tag (and explanation for it) never stated ANYTHING about releasing into the public domain, or irrevocably releasing all rights, which is significantly different from the wikimedia commons template here and the pd-self template that it was attempted to be converted to. 169.229.99.21822:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see a need making a fuss for such a small matter. To the creator of the image, I think you should just leave it alone. It is not advisable to upload your own images to Wikipedia, so Henna uploaded the image to Commons in good faith. Uploading on Commons is a benefit so it can be used on all Wikipedias and Wikimedia projects. Cool down and let the thing pass. Has permissioned been asked to transwiki the image beforehand? It would be better to request for permission so this won't happen. Terence Ong12:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Lupo and perhaps also Terence Ong seem to have misunderstood the issue. 169.229.99.218, claiming to be en:User:Tejastheory (we'd need to confirm this, of course), says that he wanted to use a template similar to {{Permission}}, and mistakingly thought that "CopyrightedFreeUse" would suit his purpose.
When I put this image up a while ago, I was just starting out with wikipedia and didn't really know much about it - I uploaded this image and never really looked back. A few weeks ago a bot changed the image's copyright to one with different wording that indicated a complete release of the copyright. I didn't want this so I reverted it back to the old copyright, and upon that I discovered that the original copyright tag I had put on this wasn't what I had intended either. I'm fine with allowing this image for wikipedia use only, but I'm beginning to move into a more proffessional photographic field and I hope it's understandable that I don't want my images running around without copyright tags and freely usable by everyone.
Apologies for using an anonymous account, I didn't want to go and create an account here just for this person - I am the same user Tejastheory from wikipedia, and I can confirm this if you'd like. -12.72.196.11922:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment yes it says CC on the picture. But the picture is a derivative work of a photo. Basically, a copyright photograph has been taken, some photoshop filters have been applied, and the resultant work released under the CC. I think this is copyright infringement. Although I would welcome it if it wasn't. - FrancisTyers19:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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there is a new coat of arm austria_coat_of_arms.svg with the official red color and licensing in Public Domain --Patricia.fidi 13:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC) --Patricia.fidi13:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In answer to david luzzio. Another person than me asked for red color on austria flags. I read many sites like this one [28]. And making just an SVG version from a flag is not enough. Better to do a new one manually and to place it under Public Domain--Patricia.fidi22:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep : The image has been under revision. Further there are no official colorings for the medieval arms of Austria depicted here, only for the modern ones. The original coloring intended to use a more archaic, medieval coloring, just as in the original raster image: Image:Austria_coat_of_arms_simple.png (drawn by Cornelis). Aside from that, the name of the new file is irritating, since it implies that these arms are the official arms of Austria today, but they are not. The actual arms show the Federal Austrian Eagle with Bindenschild. Because of that possible confusion the new file should be deleted in favor of the (revised) version of this file. You should have uploaded your revision under the old image name. --David Liuzzo18:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep! 1. Man kann Missverständnisse am besten beheben, wenn man sich der Sprache bedient, welche alle sprechen. 2. Für den Fall, dass ich mich irre: There is definitely no problem with this coat of arms. The licence is correct (Austria allows to show Arms here: see templates: PD-AustrianGov, Wappen-AT) and it's svg. Content: correct, Licence: correct. Wtf is the problem? --N3MO09:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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More importantly, this image is probably illegal in most jurisdictions as privacy infringement since it depicts people engaging in private activities without their consent.
Le couple a entre autre le titre (honorifique) de prince et princesse de Venise, il est donc plutot sympa et justifié de les voir à Venise. De plus, cette photo prise par moi même est plutot à l'aventage du couple et est prise " dans un endroit publique " sans porter " aucun préjudice " au couple, bien au contraire, il est pris dans un cadre idilique et romantique au possible, Venise. Enfin cette photo est prise en 2005, 3 ans après leur autorisation de venir en Italie et à Venise ce qui leur a été interdit pendant 56 ans d'exile. Quand à la qualité, elle protège naturellement la photo d'une utilisation commerciale abusive (15 decembre 2006) Arnaud 25
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Comment The image itself is under an acceptable free license, but what about the image content? The poster is the main content in this image. So if the poster is copyrighted it is a copyvio, see COM:DW. --Matt31421:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a classical case of picture of a picture. By creating a trivial derivative work of a copyrighted work you don't get the copyrights. The image was added by the uploader to pt.wikipedia on the article about the model (and not about the poster or the event). Also, a (really) free replacement was just found: Image:Grazielli Massafera.jpg. --Abu badali21:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is an attempt to transcend the liability of Commons itself. Agência Brasil has clearly published this picture under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 Brazil. We should not suppose that Agência Brasil simply published a picture under the wrong license. This file was released by a responsible Brazilian government agency under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 Brazil. Dantadd22:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Todas as licenças colocadas por agências governamentais, poderão e deverão ser questionadas e consequentemente, todas as fotos apagadas. Paulo Juntas00:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You can not suppose that Agência Brasil simply published a picture under the wrong license.
The banner is from a government campaign, possibly made by the very Agência Brasil
So, it's not correct to eliminate a file based on the supposition that Agência Brasil made a mistake. Commons has no responsibility at all for this kind of possible misinterpretation. So said, there is absolutely no reason to delete this file, released by a responsible government agency under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 Brazil.
The sole fact that the Agência Brasil has released the picture under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 Brazil is evidence enough that there is absolutely no problem with its license. Delete this file is abusive, because it's an attempt to challenge and deprive of effect a license given by a responsible government agency. Dantadd13:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So, you (collectively) think that you are able to abolish and revoke a license given to a picture by a government agency? This a preemption of rights and sets a very dangerous precedent. Dantadd15:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Why Commons could be sued due copyvio committed by Agência Brasil? Nothing dangerous there, photographers of Agência Brasil are people also and could made mistakes. Please explain them their mistake. --EugeneZelenko16:07, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But based on what you suppose that Agência Brasil made a mistake? I'm curious. Agência Brasil released a picture under a given license and it is the only entity that can be hold liable for it, if (and just if) they made a mistake. It's absurd that you want to delete a file based on a mere supposition and abolishing a license given by a government agency. Dantadd16:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep?Delete? Não é fácil de chegar a uma conclusão com base na informação existente. Onde é que está escrito que o cartaz está protegido por direitos de autor? Onde é que está escrito que é domínio público, ou CC? Não encontrei nada sobre isso, excepto a fotografia da Agência Brasil. Esta enganou-se na licença? É uma hipótese. A campanha foi lançada pelo ministério da saúde (ver [29]) mas não se sabe se os direitos de uso foram tranferidos da agência criativa para o ministério da saúde, e com que licença este disponibiliza os conteúdos da campanha (o site nem sequer refere o habitual "copyright"). O melhor seria perguntar a eles (ministério da saúde), não? Com certeza foram eles que encomendaram a campanha e devem saber as condições do contrato. Os contactos encontram-se no fundo da página [30]. Mosca16:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mosca, aqui pretende-se extrapolar as próprias competências, disfarçando-as de excesso de zelo. A Agência Brasil publicou a foto com uma licença e é somente a isso que o Commons deve se ater. Não cabe aos editores aqui supor, suspeitar, lançar hipóteses ou qualquer outra ilação sobre o trabalho da Agência Brasil. Se a licença está errada, o que duvido, o problema é da Agência Brasil, não do Commons. Ademais, o cartaz é de uma campanha pública de divulgação da doação de sangue, provavelmente feita por uma agência igualmente governamental, possivelmente sob o mesmo status jurídico da Agência Brasil. A situação é folhetinesca. Dantadd16:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If we suspect a problem with an image copyright, isn't it safer to remove it than to leave it? How great is the potential benefit to commons of keeping this image compared with the potential damage caused by being sued? --ksfan16:36, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Dantadd, Commons accepts only really free images. Any dubios case of copyright (like this copyvio made by Agência Brasil) don't have space here. Sorry, this is the policy and this is the price of building a free multimedia library. Lugusto • ҉16:56, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The problem here is not even the picture itself, but the precedent that can be set. You can not suppose, much less assure, that Agência Brasil made a copyright violation and released a picture with the wrong license. That is not up to Commons, editors can not suppose that a government agency made a mistake and, what is even worse, committed a violation. The picture was released by a government agency with a completely acceptable license and that's on Commons must stick to. Dantadd19:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is no requirement that commons must accept any image. The decision rests firstly with the community and ultimately with the service operators. I don't understand why you believe it totally inconceivable that Agência Brasil could possibly make a mistake. Individuals at companies make mistakes the same as anyone else. I think it is perfectly valid to discuss this possibility. There is no intention here to cast doubt on the credability of Agência Brasil; many hundreds of excellent images exist from the organisation that are not in dispute. Only this specific image is of concern. ksfan20:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not saying that Commons must accept this picture. I'm saying that Commons must accept the license under which the picture was released. It's not up to Commons editors to simply abolish a license given by a government agency. This sets a dangerous precedent to the files of Agência Brasil, on the dubious supposition that they made a mistake. What will be next? If any editor can challenge the license given by Agência Brasil, I wonder how many files can be also deleted. In the remote possibility that Agência Brasil made a mistake, the only entity that could be liable for it is the very Agência Brasil, not Commons or anyone else. Dantadd14:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think solution is simple. Please write e-mail to Agência Brasil legal department and ask them did they review this image for copyrights issues or not?
Other entities could be liable for using unlicensed material, not only entity committed copyvio. You could read en:SCO v. IBM for example.
Totally agree with EugeneZelenko. There is no immunity from liability whatsoever because a 3rd party made a specific assertion about copyright status. Getting clarity on the copyright status of the poster in the picture would solve the problem. It may well be free, who knows, but without that knowledge we cannot be sure. --ksfan17:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What's so "remote" in the possibility of Agencia Brasil making a mistake? This is a very simple mistake to commit. You claim copyright for a picture you take but you fail to take into account that it contains (non-incidental) derivative works. And this challenge won't cast doubt on all other AgenciaBrasil's pictures, because this is one very clear-cut case of a "picture of a picture". --Abu badali18:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
EugeneZelenko do you ask US government about images they say are public domain? If they say, it is. Period. The same to Agencia Brasil. Wikipedia sued? lol What a ridiculous thing...you do not respect any images right of people shown int he pictures here and are worried about this one? lol Machocarioca21:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)Machocarioca[reply]
If I see an image of us-gov that is a picture of a copyright picture, yes, I would contest the PD status. Also, Wikimedia doesn't wants copyright infringing material even in cases where it's very unlikely that it will get sued. --Abu badali12:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I assume Fundação Hemocentro de Brasília hold the copyright on the poster featured in the photo or at least know who does. Would a Portuguese speaker kindly email them please to ask about the formal copyright status? I think this would be helpful to the discussion at this stage --ksfan00:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fundação Hemocentro de Brasília is a federal health department. No need to ask for copyright status because all images from brazilian government is public domain (as those from US government). Machocarioca06:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Machocarioca[reply]
That's not right. Not all images from Brazilian government are public domain. Agencia Brasil's images, for instance, are cc-by. --Abu badali12:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the point here has been completely ignorated: Agência Brasil released a picture under a given license and that is the only thing that should matter. You (collectively) want to exercise a judgment that's beyond Commons liability, abolishing a picture's license. If you have this kind of discretional power...what can I do? I argued all I could, I give up. Dantadd15:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If some user, in good faith, takes a picture of a publicity banner and uploads the picture here under cc-by, we will dispute the license and delete the image. It shouldn't be different with Agencia Brasil, NASA or any other source. The fact is, they can commit mistake and we gain nothing in ignoring these mistakes when we run across them. --Abu badali15:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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It seems this request for deletion was not closed by an admin.
I relisted this deletion request here, because I think the image is not free enough for commons. There's no evidence that the copyright holder allows derivative works or commercial use. "Promotional photos" are not the same as "free images". --88.134.140.6414:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Old discussion:
I'm not sure the author has truely licensed this for any purpose, only for some purposes. The license on the original web site says for media and press use. This doesn't explicitly say that for example you can make derrivative works. --ksfan22:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So please change the licence by selecting a more appropriate one, or direct me to so that I can do it. I am not sure about the appropriate procedure here as I am more used to Wikipedia. I don't see any need to apply for an outright deletion when more appropriate licencing templates could be used. And by the way, nobody informed me about this deletion request on my talk page. I only came across this surprising deletion request when I logged in to randomly check this page. Ekantik01:44, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for the failure in notification. I do not think there is a commons license that covers this image, which is why it is listed for discussion about deletion. The original web site says "Free pictures in high resolution, for media and press use". The clear intention of these images is that they are used for the purposes of promoting this music group and there is no implication that they may be used for any purpose outside of this scope. I am not sure this is compatible with the principle of free use for any purpose. Under commons licensing, could I not take this image and use it on a web site to promote a product or service unconnected with the band? I am not sure that's what the author intends and is why I do not think this image is usable on commons. Would anyone like to correct me? --ksfan10:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it was troubling to find an appropriate license. For the record I was originally going to use the {{Copyrighted free use provided that|insert conditions here}} license but I thought the {{Attribution}} tag was more appropriate since its description on Copyright Tags was "Copyrighted, but freely usable given the copyright holder is credited" and I felt that it fitted the terms of the website requirements. Turns out that it's not so accurate after all.
Anyhow is it possible that this license can be changed to the above-listed Copyrighted free use, and that this picture doesn't get deleted? Ekantik01:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't actually aware of that {{Copyrighted free use provided that}} tag until you pointed it out. It looks a bit better as it enables you to specifically state the conditions whereas the other one doesn't. There's still the problem though that any conditions must comply withcommons licensing policy which means that virtually unrestricted commercial use and derivative works must be allowed. That's where I think you may have problems as (in my opinion) there is no implication that is the case. Do you have any means of contacting the copyright owners? Could you ask them to release the images unambiguously under an acceptable license? That would solve the problem --ksfan12:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I could try contacting the webmasters of the Crucified Barbara site, but I seriously doubt that they could put me in touch with the photographer unless he is part of the website team. In the meantime I hope that any Admin will be able to help resolve this problem. Ekantik00:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "Free pictures in high resolution, for media and press use. Do always include the name of the photographer." isn't free. FMLhello18:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How do you figure that out? I uploaded it on Wikipedia using a {{promophoto}} tag and there were no problems, and I was advised to upload it on Commons so that it can be used cross-projects. If a promophoto tag is sufficient for Wikipedia then how come it isn't sufficient here? Perhaps someone on Commons should create an appropriate tag that can be used on Commons to appropriately license pictures like these, since this is an acceptable 'promotional shot'. Ekantik01:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done - Please try to be patient as we have huge backlogs on commons. This photo was deleted since it's not under a free license. I did, however, contact the copyright holder(s) to try and get them to release the photos under a free license. Yonatanh18:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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While a higher-resolution version would be much preferred, this one still seems quite useful as it is — much better than no picture at all. Do we have a higher-resolution version of this or an equivalent picture? If not, then I'd say to Keep. Carl Lindberg18:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I misread the page related to license in flickr, the image is copyrighted; I've removed the image from every page, really sorry for my mistake --Yoruno13:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I misread the page related to license in flickr, the image is copyrighted; I've removed the image from every page, really sorry for my mistake --Yoruno13:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I misread the page related to license in flickr, the image is copyrighted; I've removed the image from every page, really sorry for my mistake --Yoruno13:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Contains an image of a Pokemon cartoon character on the side of an aircraft which must be copyright and I guess only licensed for use on that aircraft. --ksfan17:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it's part of a larger image, the subject is not the picture of one single pokemon, so I don't think it's derivative work -- Gorgo21:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'd agree with Gorgo except the thing I wondered is if someone can crop this image to the tail of the aircraft and get a Pokémon image that cannot then be freely usable? So not all possible derived works of this image are copyright free. How does this work? Am I taking this a bit too far? --ksfan13:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you're right that not all possible modifications (crop) of this image are copyright free, but I don't think that this is a problem for this picture. After all you can use and modify it freely, the new picture might be protected but that should not concern this picture. -- Gorgo18:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Not really... The company is called Blackpool Tramway and there are no other companies. Convention is also to name the category after the tramway company's name unless there are more than one companies or entities (such as Category:Trams in Paris. Furthermore, the Wikipedia article is also named after the tramway company's name, a bit of consistency wouldn't hurt anyone. Captain Scarlet10:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, there is a problem, sorry... You can delete, thanks. --Jod-let 00:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC) Et puisque le français est ta langue maternelle, j'ajoute en bon français que j'ai dû merdouiller quelque part entre la conception et le chargement. Bref, aucune importance, merci d'effacer. Amicalement, --Jod-let00:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm not going to pretend I think it's a great picture—I was shooting from about 20 meters in terrible light—but, along with Image:Andrew Leman 1.jpg, also nominated for deletion, it is the only image we have of this film director. I wouldn't mind losing it if we had something better, but we don't. - en:Jmabel | talk01:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Deleted by Yann: promo, no source, no valid licence, probable copyvio
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I'm not going to pretend I think it's a great picture—I was shooting from about 20 meters in terrible light—but, along with Image:Andrew Leman 2.jpg, also nominated for deletion, it is the only image we have of this film director. I wouldn't mind losing it if we had something better, but we don't. - en:Jmabel | talk01:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Bad quality is generally not a reason for deletion. You complain about the lack of colors, however this is quite usual for black and white pictures. -- Bryan (talk to me) 11:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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But how do we know whether the author was/is completely unknown? It's not enough that no author is given in the image description or the original source. --88.134.44.2820:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How do you know that nobody knew the identity of the photographer? Where is the proof, that the author is unknown? He may have lived for another 60 or 70 years, so the image would not become PD for another 50 years. --88.134.44.2816:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's simply not true. It's not PD after 70 years if the author is not known. It's only PD 70 years after publishing if the author is anonymous, meaning that he decided to publish the pictures anonymously. If we don't know we simply cannot say it's PD until it's safe to assume he died over 70 years ago. Some people (including me) say an additional 30 years (=100 years after publishing) should be enough. But I guess it's true that we should probably establish a proper policy on that topic. -- Gorgo22:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"In contrast to Wikipedia, the Wikimedia Commons deletion requests is not for voting; rather, it is intended to collect arguments in favor of and opposing deletion." -- Gorgo17:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete sorry. I tend to use the 100 years rule, it is saver. Please read Commons:Licensing#European copyright law. There it says: It is the year after the year of publication +70 years. So let's assume that the image was actually published in 1916 (we do not know!) and that the author is annonymous (we do not know!) than the image would enter into the public domain in 1916+1+70=1987. But if the image was published for the first time in 1938 and the author is unknown. Then the image would enter in the public domain in 1938+1+70=2009. --ALE! ¿…?17:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Screenshots from web sites are copyrighted by the site designer/owner. In this case, it is not clear whether the uploader is the owner of the site. The fact that he had been searching for "exceeded allotted" (probably "exceeded allotted bandwidth", see the search box) makes me believe the user searched for a page like this. --ReyBrujo16:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral no problem with design, because it's a PD very simple design. But the source is unclear. Please, contact the uploader. FMLhello19:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, includes a lot of copyrighted software screenshots, such as Mozilla and Ubuntu. Such things have to be cropped out. --GreyCat10:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I believe that it is permitted in the GPL to reproduce these copyrighted logos (assuming all software in the screenshot is GPL) but the page displayed is likely to be copyrighted.
Kept: Design does not involve creativity, and is thus ineligible for copyright. The Mozilla Deer Park icon does not fall under the restrictions for the Firefox logo. Ubuntu is free software. -- Bryan (talk to me) 09:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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I have talked with the copyright holder, and he agreed to change the license and remove the disclaimer. I will be uploading a higher resolution image with the correct information. As such, I would request an administrator to close this discussion, and to delete the previous version once the slightly bigger is uploaded. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo04:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Not sure if this can really be published under a free license. Is there freedom of panorama (de:Panoramafreiheit) in Turkey? Better delete it again. It's not nice anyhow. -- Fragwürdig 21:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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What is it that PD-Art ist stated about the picture that is wrong? Irrespective of the age of the picture, the event is real. The massacre at Babi-Yar happened, and this photograph is purportedly of that event. (signed) M. Dupre, WA
PD-Art: This image (or other media file) is in the public domain because its copyright has expired. - This applies to the United States, Canada, the European Union and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years.. The picture was taken 1941 - only 65/66 y ago. It's Photographer didn't die 70+ years ago.
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Not a work of the state of California, the website says (alternative text for image): "Photo: Bill Hall, Caltrans Distric 4 Photography"[33] and the conditions for the website say that only information on their sites is public domain: "In general, information presented on this web site, unless otherwise indicated, is considered in the public domain. It may be distributed or copied as permitted by law. However, the State does make use of copyrighted data (e.g., photographs) which may require additional permissions prior to your use."[34] -- Fred Chess18:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Quite frankly, I do not really care if we keep or delete this image. Any Wikipedian or Commons user can always drive to the site with their camera. We can always get a free photo of the bridge in a number of different ways. Zzyzx1106:39, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I do hope that this issue will be resolved at some point. According to the discussion cited above (to which I was a party), it appears that the state does hold the copyright, contrary to the intent of the state legislature. The former Lieutenant governor tried to pass legislation to clarify the matter. Since the state seems to have no intention to enforce the matter, there seems to be no pressing need to delete these pictures. If people feel uncomfortable, we could delete them, but we should probably keep a list of what has been deleted. If and when the legislature passes a bill to relinquish the states copyright, we could undelete all the images. -- Samuel Wantman08:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Below I make a list of pictures with copyright violations and/or no reason to be kept, as they do not fulfil the project scope (some of the pictures are completely nonsense, bad quality and part of a private image collection etc.). Dantadd03:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"Bad quality" can always be an appropriate argument since it turns the image unable to illustrate whatever it proposes to. Anyway, I think some of the images in the list should be kept, while the vast majority must be deleted for being derivative work or futile files. As said above, I think that Image:Xcvhjewkrjei0121.JPG and the alikes must be kept.--Gaf.arq04:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It's pt:Paulínia! See Category:Paulínia. About "bad quality", I used a kind of quick exposure camera to can be possible to see the totens. See the same place at Image:IMG 6585.jpg, it's impossible to see the totens.
Can be Delete if it's problem. In this specific case I agree with argument "bad quality". When I sent a set of images, maybe I sent it by mistake. I'm sorry.
Keep It's the unique bus station of Campinas. And, it's PD, do you want something better in public domain? It's just a small photo, but I think it isn't so bad.
Keep Idem. People on window, it's curious and I see only in Uberlândia-MG. Because the digital zoom and the dark sky, the resolution is a little bad and blured, but it is the best I can do in that moment.
One of objectives from Dantadd user is only to destroy my works. This personal fight is long and he found a way to attack me again. But, as always, he made a big mistake and has reason only on 2 or 3 images above. --- I suggest that this user catches a photographic machine and travels as me with the unique objective to bring information of places to people who do not have the same chance of us. FMLhello02:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am sad with this type of attack. But the only thing that I can make is to try to keep my desire to propagate the information around of the world via GFDL. FMLhello02:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sturm is like Dantadd and Lugusto (555), against me on all on PT.WP. It's a personal case. Please, see my argumentations image-by-image. FMLhello22:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Disclaimer: I am not an experienced user in Commons. I'm sorry some links are red, I don't understand why... Sorry again for the long listing :).
All images marked with Commons:Trademarks: Delete. All explicitly show trademarks, "perspective" is not an argument here.
Then:
Image:128 2808.JPG I don't know, but inclined for Delete. It's not used anywhere now, but might be used to illustrate a homeless person. With this bad quality, it's doubtful though.
Image:128 2803.JPGDelete, portraits too clesely someone who has not given permission for his image to be used (or has he?)
Image:128 2805.JPGKeep, not used anywhere but it can be potentially used to illustrate a shopping mall.
Image:127 2787.JPGDelete, COM:PS; the image is not used anywhere and it serves no purpose, since it does not illustrate a defined landscape and it can't be used to illustrate a bus, either.
Image:Cosmópolis 0008.jpg, Inclined to Keep; there is a person, albeit not recognizable, who is the main focus of the image and may have not given authorization. However, photo could be used to illustrate e.g. physical push forces.
I'd like to leave a couple of comments here. From the contact I've had with user FML in the Portuguese Wikipedia, I am under the impression that if you agree with him, everything is fine, if you don't, you are part of a cabal to destroy him. In a recent conversation through an IRC channel, FML stated that he did not agree with this view of mine, as long as arguments against him were valid. Obviously, no arguments against him are valid. So.
I would advise user FML to not upload any photos with low quality, such as underexposed/shaky photos. They are simply not good enough to be used anywhere. As a proof of good manners, it would also be nice to not name files as Xcvhjewkrjei0121.JPG, because they will not show up in searches. All images showing clearly trademarks are gross copyright violations, and an experienced user should not do such.
Sorry if I seem to be harsh, but while for you here is a one-time event, us at the Portuguese Wikipedia have to face this behaviour every day. PatríciaR23:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I ask only to see the categories of pics. And, "low quality" isn't a good argument on Commons (most of cases), because for us, anything free and useful is welcome. It's GFDL filosofy. --FMLhello05:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm largely taking over PatríciaR's suggestion, but will reconsider each image myself. It may take a few days before everything is deleted. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Lots of images by static uploaded to commons (by other users) look fine -- many have nothing to do with wrestling, and are licensed cc-by-sa. The Flickr page for this image states that the obsessedwith wrestling.com site took the images from the Flickr user, not the other way around. It does look like Eddie619 uploaded the thumbnails from the website though, not the (larger) versions available from Flickr. Given that the Flickr site seems to have the largest versions of the photos, it seems reasonable to think they are the original source. The few that I've looked at seem to have been taken from the same vantage point, which is consistent with a single user taking them. Also, I compared the modification dates on one image -- the Flickr image was dated August 2005, and the (smaller) obsessedwith wrestling.com version was dated February 2006. Carl Lindberg17:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I am sad to say so but the permission is very restrictive - it cannot qualify even for fair-use, so cannot be uploaded to *any* WMF-project. So the images both on Commons and on en.wp have to be deleted. -- Zlatko + (talk)15:10, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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This image is apparently not a NASA image but a SeaWiFS image, and SeaWiFS are released under a non-commercial license. Since this image was uploaded before May 19, 2005, it shouldn't be speedied (according to this email from Jimbo) but listed for deletion. So here it is. Chick Bowen00:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The only problem I have with that is that the image does not have any deleted history in the English Wikipedia, so there isn't any actual proof that the page was uploaded before the May 2005 deadline. Titoxd(?!?)00:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It seems odd to me that the history would be faked (why would it?). In any case, it's between deleting it now or deleting it in a week--I don't see that it makes much difference either way. Chick Bowen01:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Sergei Michailowitsch Prokudin-Gorski died 1944 so he is not 70 years dead and so this picture can't be PD (even if the LoC says so). DaB.01:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It can be PD, but it needs a reason other than the 70 pma rule. Let's see... this is part of the Prokudin-Gorskii Collection, and the LoC's rights page says that the Library purchased the collection in 1948 from Prokudin-Gorskii's heirs who were living in France. The page does say that the issue of copyright was not addressed by the sale. In some countries, the sale of the negatives implies the transfer of copyright as well, under which logic the LoC would have owned any copyright and was free to place it in the public domain. The rights page does mention this gray area, and also says that an heir has expressed "concerns" about "commercial use", and provides contact information, though the LoC plainly believes the images are PD (at least in the US). Since these were originally from Russia, it's also quite possible that Russian law may determine the duration of copyright -- in which case {{PD-Russia}} may very likely apply. I agree with Cburnett above; it seems reasonable that the LoC owned and has released whatever rights still exist (if any). KeepCarl Lindberg05:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In some countries, the sale of the negatives implies - yes, but France isn't some. As said the issue of copyright was not addressed by the sale, so delete. 195.93.60.35 16:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC) Please log in for voting. -- AM21:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There have also been no legal claims that the estate claims they didn't sell the copyright, just that they have "concern about commercial use". Even if they did sell complete ownership of the collection they could still have "concern" about their use but "concern" does not mean they have any legal recourse since they have no ownership of it. The collection was bought and sold to the LoC and the LoC says there are no known restrictions and they, I presume, have been freely available since their purchase 6 decades ago. Really though, this issue is larger than just this image. Category:Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii lists 165 images and the same argument goes for all of them. I think this discussion merits a larger venue and involvement than it currently has. Cburnett20:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Like I just said above, I think this is a larger issue to discuss better suited to another location than the chopping block of 1 of 165 images... Cburnett20:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Es ist eine Frechheit, daß die Löschdisk. immer wieder aus dem Bild entfernt wird. Bezeichnenderweise typisch für commons, das ist mal wieder ein schönes Beispiel für die Willkür hier... --Marcela21:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This was an image taken in Russia, by a Russian (and partially financed by the Russian government). It is quite possible that Russian law would determine the length of copyright... does the term of protection change on a work if the author later moves to another country? The heirs sold the photographs and negatives nearly 60 years ago and have not claimed copyright since. It's hard to imagine the LoC would purchase photos without the right to reproduce them... their page just says that the issue of copyright was not explicitly addressed (I doubt there was as much awareness of them then), but they obviously think it was included (since they declare them to have no rights restrictions). Since the heirs have not claimed copyright even now, they are likely invoking their "moral rights", which are separate from copyright and are non-transferable, and look like they are particularly strong in French law. If we use Russian law, then I think they are PD, otherwise I think the LoC acquired the copyrights and released them into the public domain. Carl Lindberg02:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
delete. Russia has the 70 years pma term and there is no proof that LoC purchased the copyrights. Instead of crying "keep" some users should ask the LoC. Meanwhile the picture has to be deleted --Historiograf03:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Was the Russian 70 pma term retroactive? Because otherwise this image seems to meet the terms of {{PD-Russia}}. As for the LoC, they say that reproduction is "Permitted. There are no known restrictions on the use of these images." According to [37], they only say that if their rights analysis shows the images are PD -- so I take that to be the LoC's stance on the matter. I think that the moral rights in French law may well restrict some of the possible usages of the images, but that is outside the scope of copyright. Carl Lindberg04:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, it wasn't. But the 50-year term from the 1993 Russian copyright law was retroactive. The term extension from 50 to 70 years in 2004 was not retroactive. Which gives us the 1954 date mentioned in PD-Russia. For the U.S., the corresponding year would be 1946. I would like to know from those people claiming 70y p.m.a. applied why article 7 of EU directive 93/98/EEC (defining a rule of the shorter term for non-EU works) should not apply? Because if it does, I don't see why 70y p.m.a. should be applicable to these works, even in the EU. The EU directive became effective in EU member countries on July 1, 1995. The adherence of Russia to the Berne convention became effective on March 13, 1995. In Russia, Prokudin-Gorskii's works went out of copyright on January 1, 1995, i.e. before Russia joined the Berne Convention, and also before the EU directive entered in force. (And also before the U.S. URAA date of January 1, 1996...) If we treat these images as Russian works, I just don't see why they should still be copyrighted. If they were French works, it would be different. But why should they be French works? Weren't they published pre-1918 in Russia? Lupo13:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that discussion was about the old PD-Soviet tag, not the PD-Russia tag which was a result those discussions. PD-Russia is legitimate I think. Carl Lindberg00:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I don't understand why Ralf (Marcela) thinks {{PD-Russia}} was a joke (as he said at the beginning of this discussion). PD-Soviet certainly was wrong... but PD-Russia looks right unless one insists on treating any Soviet work as simultaneously published in all successor states of the USSR. But I've come to think that this interpretation is not common; the more common way to deal with this situation is to respect the territoriality of copyright laws: Soviet works originally published in the RSFSR fall under today's laws of Russia, works originally published in other SSRs fall under the respective modern laws; e.g. a work originally published in the Georgian SSR falls under the laws of Georgia. Incidentally User:Mikkalai has recently expressed the same opinion on Commons:Licensing: [38]. Lupo20:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree with Mikkalai on that point; my guess is the "simultaneously published" bit pertains more to how they are treated within the successor states than internationally. For example, works created in the RSFSR would be treated as Russian in Russian law, but treated as Georgian (and not a Russian foreign work) if used in Georgia, etc. Internationally though I would think we would use today's Russian law for them. Carl Lindberg03:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per my comments above. Unless someone can show (a) that §7 of 93/98/EEC does indeed not apply, or (b) that these works were French works despite having been published first in Russia before 1918, I currently think these works are indeed PD in Russia, the U.S., and in the EU. But I may be wrong about the EU; the situation is confusing. Until 1964, French law recognized copyrights on any work from anywhere, regardless of the nationality of the author or the country of origin, and even if there were no copyright treaties between France and that country! That provision was rescinded in 1964. Outside the EU, I honestly don't see why French law should play any role. I think that internationally, these are Russian works, not French works. Lupo08:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with the "keep", but Carl: the publisher could have licensed the images if they were still copyrighted. :-) Lupo07:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
True :-) (it would be interesting to see what the book's credits say). However, that book had to be done in association with the Library of Congress (since they owned the originals), and so the LoC almost certainly would have been aware of any permission that was needed. If it was, I would think the LoC would mention it on the current rights page. I can't think of a way that it could have been under copyright then but not now. Carl Lindberg16:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Neutral I'm not sure, because it's in high perspective and very lights effects, it's impossible to get the picture correctly. But it is a little doubful. FMLhello02:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The uploader claims that a U.S. army soldier was present at a meeting of high-level nazi generals discussing the upcoming Allied invasion of France and took these photos. I find this highly unlikely. The source URL [39] does not work. --High on a tree08:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The uploader claims that a U.S. army soldier was present at a meeting of high-level nazi generals discussing the upcoming Allied invasion of France and took these photos. I find this highly unlikely. The source URL [40] does not work. --High on a tree08:55, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The uploader claims that a U.S. army soldier was present at a meeting of high-level nazi generals discussing the upcoming Allied invasion of France and took these photos. I find this highly unlikely. The source URL [41] does not work. --High on a tree08:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The uploader claims that a U.S. army soldier was present at a meeting of high-level nazi generals discussing the upcoming Allied invasion of France and took these photos. I find this highly unlikely. The source URL [42] does not work. --High on a tree08:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Unfree movie screenshot from Star Wars Episode V: The Empire strikes back. Originally from the Wookieepedia where it was erroneously tagged as copyrighted free use. --88.134.44.2813:55, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Does "self made" not explain? - R Fuller —the preceding unsigned comment is by154.20.9.21 (talk • contribs)
I'm not quite sure if it's possible that the man pictured has taken a tripod put his camera on it and took a picture of himself right there in the nature. beside this, i think going out of your house, leaving your own property, naked (and taking a photo of yourself) is probably against law ("erregung offentlichen ärgernisses" in germany) --Frumpy14:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep It was marked as PD-old on english wikipedia, though it looks like the tag was temporarily removed for some reason. The caption on w:Anatomy states that it comes from w: Encyclopédie, which was published in the 1700s. It should be marked PD-old or PD-art here though, not GFDL. Carl Lindberg06:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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It appears that these photos were taken in Singapore so why is Spanish law relevant? And what is the relevance of "permanent exhibit"? Thuresson21:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The uploader claims that this image was taken in 1953 (just below the January 1, 1954 limit of Template:PD-Russia). However, the indicated source [44] doesn't give the year and Andropov looks much older than 39 on the photo. regards, High on a tree 13:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Well in Croatia, the law applies, government poics are PD. So we can put a licence tag that this pic can only be used on the croatian wiki project. I am not for deleting it. beacuse it is government, portrait, and from an unexisting country. So stay, and can be usable on the croatian wiki project. --Edgar Allan Poe11:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for remind you, but Soviet Union (and Russia as legal successor) is not Croatia and official portraits are not listed in {{PD-RU-exempt}}. Please upload this image in Croatian wiki as fair use (if allowed). --EugeneZelenko17:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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BUt it says: Its copyright has also expired in those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 50 years. The prt is only for the US. Krleža ha never been to the US, an he is croatian, so in Croatia the law +70, or +50 years is usable. So the picture satays. --Edgar Allan Poe19:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The magic word is "also", meaning the image can only be tagged with {{PD-old-50}} if it is also PD in the US, but this image is still copyrighted in the US, see [46]. Also: if it is a photo from the 1940's it is very unlikely that the photographer died until 1956. Please note that there is a difference between "life of the author plus 50 years" and "50 years after its publication". --Matt31400:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This person was born in 1891. In the 1940s hw ould have about 50 years. So he looks like he is 50. Now, I do not know if there is a licence for PD works that are published before 50+ years. And would it influence the decision to keep the pic to say that I found the pic in an old newspaper that is not published anymore, so there is noone to havet the copyright, beacuse the copyright belonged to the newspaper, and it does not exist anymore, so the copyright has expired. --Edgar Allan Poe
I reverted your last edit blanking this discussion. Please wait for an administrator to close this discussion either to keep or to delete the image. There is not tag for "PD 50 years after publication" because there would not be a legal basis for this in most countries. Also: The copyright does not belong to the newspaper but to the photographer. --Matt31411:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I supose you read the newspaper. It said in croatian: Sva prava pridržana, pripadaju novinama, or in english All rights reserved, belonging of the newspaper. So the newspaper thet does not exist anymore held the copyright, so it is PD. --Edgar Allan Poe16:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the pic is from a book, an it says: Miroslav Krleža, utjecajni hrvatski političar i književnik, slika iz časopisa Književnik, or Miroslav krleža, croatian writer & politician, pic from a newspaper called Writer. So PD. --Edgar Allan Poe22:40, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Iam sure, beacuse the newspaper was started by Krleža. So he is dead, and the newspaper broke down before he was dead. So it does not have a succesor and a copyright holder, beacuse everything belonged to the newspaper aka Krleža,but he is dead and the newspaper is not publsihed. So it must be PD. --Edgar Allan Poe11:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I do not know if there is a link, but I have a book about him, and I read it there. So, search for a link, I do not if it exists. The newspaper was published in the 1900's. It is PD, and no one will sew Wales if we keep this pic. Stay. --Edgar Allan Poe17:37, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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All are based on songs by U2 and are, in fact, derivative works of those songs. The sound files are not direct copies of the original recording, but they do reflect the original melody and harmonies. The images are musical notation representing the same. Thus they cannot be licensed under the GFDL, as the creative work belongs to U2, not to the uploader. They could only be used under a "fair use" claim, but "fair use" media is not allowed at Commons, or indeed at German Wikipedia, where these files are currently being used. —Angr19:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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If the book has been published in 1948 I doubt the copyright has expired or otherwise free. Therefore I doubt the user has the right to make a derative work by scanning it. Which gives us a copyright violation. --|EPO|19:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The person depicted was born 1910, so the image has surely not been published in the US before 1923, I even doubt that the image is more than 50 years old. -- Matt31400:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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If the image is kept, can you have this image renamed to something specific? As for the copyright of the image, I protected the page to show the dispute taking place. Alan.ca believes this is a copyright violation, others believed to be in the public domain due to playing email tag with Stephen Harper's office (yes, this is the official photo of Prime Minister Stephen Harper). User:Zscout370(Return fire)20:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Sorry, I've probably made an error when I copied the image form en.wiki, using the wrong template. The image is quite surely a PD-USGov-Military-Air Force, probaly taken from National Museum of The US Air Force website, but i copied the image directly from en.wiki, so I'm not sure (and now I can't find the image on the website (but it's been renewed recently)). In the same period I've uploaded a similar image of a similar aircraft mockup, XF-103, Image:Republic XF-103 mock-up.jpg, in this case the tag is correct (the image is from USAF Museum). --Il palazzo17:39, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I found a much larger version here, but I don't see any source info. This page states that it was a mockup shown to USAF officials, which is most likely what this photo was from -- no idea though if it was a USAF photo or one taken by the contractor. This page gives a USAF Museum source for the image, but the given URL is defunct. I will say I did find on the web a few images of the XF-108 very similar to the type the USAF Museum makes available for other planes, but their factsheet for the XF-108 does not have any images right now. Is there any way to see the text of the original en wiki page, to see if a source was listed there? Carl Lindberg06:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The image, as I remember, was taken by North American at their site solely for USAF needs, since the F-108 was a secret project. After closing the project all materials, incl. drawings, research files, images became USAF property. hires
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Armenica.org's copyright page says "Material taken from Armenica.org must not be altered or modified without permission from Armenica.org"
(as a side note, en:User:Nareklm currently asserts that the site intends to have a license that only requires attribution in the descriptive text, but allows image modification, which would be okay if that were confirmed... (see possible email response) However, given the number of copyvios that Nareklm has posted, the email really needs to be forwarded on to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org before we can ignore what's said on their website). --Interiot17:30, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Reasons for deletion request: According to the description, the image has been taken from Austria's weekly magazine "ff". Therefore it is highly improbable that the uploader is really entitled to publish this work on Wikimedia Commons. 87.123.105.5622:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment The reason is that Rex Germanus does not agree with the map. Please note that this user has been subject to an arbitration case on en-wp, for pushing his POV into this subject. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you Bryan, but your libel is incorrect. I've been subject to an arbitration case on the English wikipedia for edit warring with a German nationalist who refused to discuss his edits.
On to the image. I've already made some changes to this map but I really think it needs to go. It was created by Micheal Postmann, a user from the German wikipedia now blocked for a nazi bias and the use of doubtful sources. This maps claims to portray GERMAN dialects while it actually displayes the continental west germanic dialect continuum Rex22:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Currently. The map is in PD according to its source and currently no one seem to be unhappy with it. It is independent an image deserves being deleted and its uploader deserves being banned. --Aphaia08:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted. It was used on Japanese and Esperanto Wikipedia on articles such as Germany. If the images are presented as factually accurate eventhough they are not, I think it is better to delete them. / Fred Chess18:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Press photo doesn't mean that the image is free to use for any purpose. The source website says nothing about modification or commercial use. --88.134.44.2814:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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One of the images used in this composite is a promotional image. That means it's not a free image and can't be released under the terms of the GFDL 88.134.44.2815:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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hey 88.134.44.28, as you have no guts to say who you REALLY are, should your opinion should really matter?, this picture has been previously reviewed and passed the test here b4,
but as it is a dead issue i do not really care one way or another...i leave it in the hands of the wiki's in charge, thank you. (cathytreks)
p.s. my protest against "nasa" at the time regarding the killing by the space shuttles of totaly innocent birds may not be a relevant issue to the world, and there are bigger fish (issues) to fry than that!, dont ya think? User:cathytreks
Look, I don't know why you react so emotionally. It's nothing personally, and I didn't want to anger you. I just put it on this deletion request list because Commons only allows free images. And a (modified) tv screenshot is not a free image. That's all, I'm sorry if I offended you. --88.134.44.2821:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Im not upset about it, or towards you, just for your fyi it was an image taken by me at cape canaveral, with my video camera at long range, and then i edited it from the video image i took off the screen from my own video i shot of the Discovery taking off last year, thats why it should not be removed, as it is my work all the way. okay?
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This picture was taken in Sudan by an agency registered in Sudan. In that country pictures are protected only for up to 25 years after first publication. What else do you use the tag PD-Arab for? --Botev20:42, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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"Pressebild" (press photo) is not the same as CC-by-sa, and it doesn't mean that the copyright holder allows free use and modification. --88.134.44.2814:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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not copyrighted in the Republic of CHina.這個圖片是中華民囯陝甘寧邊區政府主席毛澤東在1938年給中華民國國民政府主席蔣中正的一封信的首尾兩頁的照片。根據中華民囯著作权法（2004年）第九条 ，“公务员于职务上草拟之文告、讲稿、新闻稿及其他文书 ”属于公有領域，故此照片的發佈與傳播無版權問題。Thank you for your concern! I have added the correct tag for this picture. This picture is a photo of a letter written by the president of a local gouvernment to the president of the Republic of China in 1938. According to Copyright Law of the Republic of China(The Republic of China still exists and proclaims the sovereignty over all territories of China), this kind of letter is in the public domain.
Image:Illu24.jpg is a cash receipt signed by Mao in 1938, the owner of this receipt is the Third Communist Internationa. I am not sure which copyright tag shall be added beacause the communist international has ceased to exist for more than 60 years, The text is in Russian, it was probably written by a russian agent sent to china by the Comintern .anyway, mao who signed the staff was the president of a region in the Republic of China, according the copyright law of Republic of china ;it is in the public domain if the auther of this file is viewed as mao.--民國九十五年 07:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC
*Comment: Let me explain the conflicts of the Copyright Laws of the Republic of China (ROC, Taiwan after 1949) and the People's Republic of China (PRC, Mainland). The nature of this work is considered Template:PD-ROC-exempt that I made here based on s:zh:Template:PD-TW and s:en:Template:PD-TW. It is unclear whether it fits Template:PD-PRC-exempt that I made here based on s:zh:Template:PD-CN and s:en:Template:PD-CN. This is to say that it seems to be in the public domain in Taiwan based on the Copyright Act of the ROC. Perhaps the ROC but not the PRC was the "home country" of the work while Chinese Communists did not yet abolish ROC laws. The ROC has a copyright treaty with the USA not recognized by the PRC. For now, I can agree 民國九十五年's and Shizhao's claim of PD-TW and PRC copyright claim, but in the USA, it may be in the public domain while there was no PRC when Mao Zedong wrote the letter.--Jusjih18:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)revised below[reply]
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I don't suppose that anyone knows of the copyright status of signs owned by the California DOT, do they? This image may not actually be copyrighted by them or may be copyrighted in a freely usable way. Probably not but worth a check. (see conditions where they say info on the SITE is PD, unless said otherwise) ++Lar: t/c14:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"However, the State does make use of copyrighted data (e.g., photographs) which may require additional permissions prior to your use." (I'm looking into this a bit, but haven't found anything, yet, and I'm not sure where to look. I don't suppose it'd do any good to just call up the DOT?) Luna Santin20:22, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The image is a derivative of a copyrighted artwork, and commons doesn't allow fair use. "I like it" doesn't trump copyright law, I'm afraid. en:User:Luna Santin, unable to remember my password for commons at the moment (oops). 192.235.1.3419:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There's a big difference between "Los Angeles, 3 miles" and the artwork on this sign, wouldn't you agree? It stands to reason that somebody made the image on the sign, and unless we know what particular license(s) the image is or isn't available under, I'm not comfortable assuming it's public domain. It might be -- I'm trying to find out if it is -- but we shouldn't assume that to be the case, I think. Luna Santin02:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not entirely true. As was linked above, artworks in public places are still very much subject to copyright, and we don't actually have a confirmation of who owns the copyright on this artwork -- it could be Caltrans, it could be the original artist, it could be both. Caltrans mentions on their website (also linked above) that information on the site is "generally" PD, but there's two caveats to watch for, there: (1) that statement only applies to their website, and (2) they specifically mention possible exceptions where artwork may be subject to additional copyright. We don't know who made, or who owns, this image, as far as I can tell, and that's where I'm concerned. Luna Santin19:21, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is a road sign, photographed by a wikipedian and released gdfl. We should treat it as road sign. In truth, the creation of any sign requires some artistry. This nomination was premature and a tad over reaching. --Evrik21:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't think the nominators have sufficiently shown that this is not a road sign made by caltrans. I move to speedy close this discussion and save this image under the original license. --Evrik22:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This looks like a delete to me. No one has presented a convincing argument as to why this work is not copyrighted, and we have to assume it is barring evidence otherwise. Sorry, because it's a neat sign. ++Lar: t/c05:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have PROOF that this sign was made by caltrans and does not contain copyrighted artwork? Absent a clear statement from Caltrans we have to assume this is not an ordinary roadsign, because their website is not clear, it says that there may be images they use that are copyright by others. And therefore we have to err on the side of caution. I do understand why you want this sign to be ok, it's really neat (and the california project will be minus a nifty totem) but it's just safer to either get a clear cut waiver from Caltrans or to delete. I think this issue was raised in your recent RfA... that we HAVE to err on the side of caution even if we do not want to. Sorry if I am misremembering. ++Lar: t/c21:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The proof is prima facie. If you look at the at images here, you will see that the referenced sign is featured many times in different settings across the state (i.e. it is not unique); it is shown with other state made signs (i.e. it too is state made); its sheer size means that it is meant to be seen at distance from a moving vehicle(i.e. it is a road sign). The Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, "Any traffic control device design or application provision contained in this Manual shall be considered to be in the public domain. Traffic control devices contained in this Manual shall not be protected by a patent or copyright, except for the Interstate Shield." " Yes, it is not a standard 'road sign'. There is no original artwork. It is an image of the state flower, but it is made by the same government employees who make all the rest of the signs. It is a standard sign used throughout the state. FWIW, the contents of the California MUTCD are not copyrighted either, nor are the roadsigns. --Evrik21:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Evrik: "featured many times" - If I make many copies of a copyrighted thing that does not change the status of copyright. "It is a road sign meant to be seen at a distance" - many things can be seen at a distance, and some of them indeed are road signs. Some road signs have the state seal of a particular state on them. That seal may nevertheless be copyrighted. Unless you get a note from CalTrans, sent to the OTRS permissions queue, identifying who the author is, and giving the right sort of permission, I think we need to err on the side of caution. You have used these arguments above and they were not convincing then. I'm really sorry, but it is my view that you do not completely understand the issues here and are making a mistake about the status of this. ++Lar: t/c03:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about erring on the side of caution ... The level of rigor being required for this image is almost ridiculous, really. There is a marked failure to see the obvious. I will pick up the phone this afternoon and make a call to caltrans to see who there will send the requested email. --Evrik18:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What you have here is a prme example of the pinhead principle. I laughed so hard when i read this talk page that I went and created a proposal to start Wikipedia:Pinhead. Oh and since it may be unclear as to who he pinheads are, it's the deletionists who nominate something for deletion and then demand an impossibly high burden of proof to save an image. -Just call me zippy 03:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and any pinhead can see, except maybe Lar, that the g.d. thing is an f'ing road sign. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that states and municipalities across the counry put these things all over the place. Not every picture is art. -Just call me zippy 03:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)}[reply]
No one here is disputing that this is a road sign. What is disputed is the copyright state of the artwork on it. Denigrate caution all you want but erring on the side of caution is what we do here. ++Lar: t/c04:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is not about denigrating caution. Government employees regularly create image that are then released into the public domain. As I said, I will make a call to see if I can't get an email to settle this whole thing, but since this sign is covered under the California MUTCD and released into the PD by Caltrans, it shouldn't really be necessary. --Evrik18:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've downloaded the entire California MUTCD document (all 72Mb of it) but I can't find this sign shown. There is mention of a "Welcome to California" sign, number G10B(CA), but it doesn't seem to be illustrated. It seems an email is going to be the easiest way to pin this down. With the lack of solid evidence evidence supporting the claim to PD, this image is otherwise for the chop.--MichaelMaggs20:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you read the MUTCD, you'll see that it is PD by inference. The sign is created by Caltrans; they say that their work is PD; therefore the sign created by them is PD. BTW, I am waiting for someone to call me back. --Evrik20:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There's nothing in that document, so far as I can see, that confirms - by implication or otherwise - that the sign they call G10B(CA) is the sign in the image we are talking about. How do you make that inference? You have argued above that The Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices says "Any traffic control device design or application provision contained in this Manual shall be considered to be in the public domain". True, but that applies where the sign is contained in this Manual, and it seems not to be there. --MichaelMaggs08:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The GFDL tag is wrong. This is a 2D reproduction, so either the original is PD, so the this electronic version, or it's not PD, then it will have to be deleted (unless the oroiginal creator releases it under a free license, of course). -- Duesentrieb⇌19:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've been playing phone tag with a guy from Caltrans, but the gist of the messages has been "...they are public domain." --Evrik11:53, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome. Beg him to send a note to permissions@wikimedia.org from a caltrans email to that effect! But that's great news. Thanks for being persistent, Evrik. ++Lar: t/c14:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Evrik - If the Caltrans people can't come up with any written statement on this that can be sent to permissions@wikimedia.org, I'm proposing to close this deletion request as a "Delete". Do you need a few more days to keep trying with them? --MichaelMaggs20:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Given that it seems highly likely that this image is public domain, it seems reasonable to allow time for the bureaucracy to churn a bit before providing results. Nobody is harmed thereby. Morven06:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Last week I made another call to someone else to see if I could get an email. I got another call back today and I am pursuing it. I sent them the link to this discussion. Caltrans is going to get me an answer. --Evrik23:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I support waiting a while yet... this discussion started in December and we are in good faith trying to determine what the right thing to do is, no one at Caltrans could reasonably be upset if we delay the actual deletion waiting for Caltrans to answer Evrik's queries... ++Lar: t/c16:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If I'm not mistaken, the California MUTCD that the sign is drawn from is a supplement (i.e. an addendum) to the Federal MUTCD, which contains the PD claim. That may or may not affect things. —Scott5114↗22:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This image has been tagged for four months, and is currently the subject of the oldest extant deletion request. There appears to have been no progress in the last month and I don't think we can wait indefinitely. Fair warning, then, that I propose to close this as 'delete' next week unless a licence has been provided by then. Of course, if Caltrans eventually gets its act together and does confirm in writing that the image is PD we can easily undelete it. --MichaelMaggs19:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Images are not free enough. All images tagged with this template are not free enough (we cant have images that require premission per usage). I would speedy delete them but there are too many of them. --Catout16:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As I was the on who brought the issue to attention on irc I surely agree. The license is not free enough when permission is required for commercial use.
The Commons:Licensing page makes it clear (while citing this template as a specific example) that usage restrictions distinct from copyright or licensing considerations are OK for the Commons. As a work by a US Federal Agency, all works of the USAIOH are in the public domain. However, US Law restricts their use in commercial enterprises as a matter separate from the licensing of the image. Everything I've been able to find on this policy, starting with the policy page itself, motivates for allowing the continued use of this tag. Pulling it--and broadly applying the rationale behind pulling it--would mean that any depiction of insignia in use by the United States government, and the governments of many foreign countries, would never be allowed. Please let this tag live. v/r, Hammon2723:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That section is about what licenses are allowed for images uploaded to the commons. All images falling under the USAIOH tag are in the public domain, and as such there is by definition no license applicable to them. To be sure, images with a copyright license that requires notification before commercial use are not acceptable for the Commons. However, this is not the case for the USAIOH images. They are in the public domain, but happen to have restrictions placed on them by US Federal law, restrictions that are separate from any copyright considerations.
All images in the public domain are acceptable, as the section on public domain in the page you linked to attests ( Commons:Licensing#Material_in_the_public_domain ). Since the USAIOH images are in the public domain, they should be allowable so long as the legal restrictions (as distinct from licensing restrictions, which don't exist for them) that apply to them are clearly stated, which the template in question does.
I admire your zeal for keeping Wikipedia free from any taint of copyright trouble, but this recurring campaign to prevent any insignia from being depicted on multiple wiki pages will only serve to impoverish Wikipedia. If USAIOH images of these items are not allowed, no images will ever be. This is because the laws that restrict their commercial use will apply to depictions of USAIOH subjects even if I were to freehand draw them in crayon and scan them in. Even a picture of, say, the US 1st Infantry Division shoulder patch I personally drew and released into the public domain would be disallowed under your interpretation of the rules of the Commons because it would still be restricted from commercial use by US law, completely independently of its copyright status. This would be true of most national flags, as well.
On the other hand, it seems clear to me that the type of images that are banned under the rules you are trying to use are normal, copyrighted images that someone has uploaded because the images were found on a website that allowed these copyrighted images to be used without permission for non-commercial purposes.
Do you really want a Wikipedia with no pictures of flags, national emblems, or insignia? If that's the vision for where this project wants to go, I want no part of it, and I'm sorry I wasted my time here. I hope you will reconsider. v/r, Hammon2719:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK I see your point now. And I have read the quoted law in the archive. From that I would still say the license is not free.
It would certainly limit the use of US flags/emblems/insignias. So the question can be boiled down to what we value most?
Suppose local copies could be allowed outsite English Wikipedia, as US law does not apply outsite US. English Wikipedia could then claim fair use of the materials. Thereby only Commons would loose images. Not that this would be the best solution. --|EPO|16:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is no license because there is no copyright. There is no need to ever claim fair use when there is no copyright. --Pmsyyz04:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am afraid you do not yet see my point. According to the licensing page discussed above, there are two kinds of images allowed on the Commons. 1) Copyrighted images with free licenses and 2) images in the public domain. Images of Type 1 only classify as such (images with free licenses) if the license allows commercial use without requiring permission from the copyright holder. Images of Type 2 (images in the public domain) are allowed simply because they are in the public domain, and even if restrictions independent of copyright status (because there really is no copyright status) apply due to various local laws, so long as these restrictions are clearly stated. This is made clear by the first note on the Licensing page Commons:Licensing#_note-0 .
The language of the law presented during the previous dispute only says what happens if commercial use of these images is made without obtaining permission of the USAIOH.
Your statement that "the license is not free" is false regarding USAIOH images because there is not any license for these images, nor can there be one. They became part of the public domain (an image of Type 2) as soon as the agent of the US Government lifted his or her pen, and by that status alone are explicitly allowed on the Commons.
I can understand the desire to show that prohibiting non-commercial use copyright licenses won't stifle creativity. But permanently banning all insignia (at least until the US Congress decides it wants to let government produced insignia be used for commercial use without permission and passes a law to that effect) does not seem like a desirable outcome by any stretch of the imagination. I thank you for your continued reasonable debate on this matter. v/r, Hammon2719:12, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep So they are public domain, but there are legal restrictions on manufacture and sale. Is this any different from the situation of many national flags? --Pmsyyz20:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The first legal citation applies solely to the Medal of Honor (MOH), the second has the following restriction:
(a) The photographing, printing, or, in any manner making or executing any engraving, photograph, print, or impression in the likeness of any decoration, service medal, service ribbon, badge, lapel button, insignia, or other device, or the colorable imitation thereof, of a design prescribed by the Secretary of the Army or the Secretary of the Air Force for use by members of the Army or the Air Force is authorized provided that such reproduction does not bring discredit upon the military service and is not used to defraud or to misrepresent the identification or status of an individual, organization, society, or other group of persons.
Keep. Nobody has alleged that these are not PD imges. The question is simply whether they should be allowed here, given that other provisions of US law place restrictions on how they can be used. That is essentially a policy question, and current policy is clear: Commons:licensing explicitly says at note 1 that "This (ie usage) may be regulated by geographical, trademark, or other laws unrelated to copyrights, which Wikimedia Commons can not account for".
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Kept, the image is still used on English Wikipedia. I've tagged it with {{Badname}}. Please inform me when there is no longer a wish to use it and you want it deleted. / Fred Chess18:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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This and all other images by this user who uploaded unsourced images, most likely taken from various websites. Some are obvious copyvios like CD covers. Blocked user for one day after reuploading deleted CD covers. -- Matt31416:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Image is of a copyright piece of art, and therefore this photo cannot be GFDL. Uploader cannot claim copyright/GFDL. Would suggest transwiking to English wikipedia as fair use. --Megapixie00:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I took that picture. Should I upload it to english wiki after deletion or is there an automated way of transwiking it? BTW, is there a fair use policy in French and Georgian law, so may I upload it to that wikis, too? - Hu Totya12:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On the english Wikipedia there is {{Art}} try that.
Delete, copyvio. The question isn't whether French and Georgian law allow fair use, but whether the policy of French and Georgian Wikipedia do. I believe French Wikipedia does, I have no idea about Georgian Wikipedia. —Angr20:14, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The logo is not free for any purpose, notably the logo guidelines forbid modifications that "compromise the integrety of the logo" and commercial use is not allowed without written permission Sherool22:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The logo is not free for any purpose, notably the logo guidelines forbid modifications that "compromise the integrety of the logo" and commercial use is not allowed without written permission. Sorry bout the redundancy, should have listed both on one subpage I guess, only found the second after I had already listed the first... Sherool22:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Picture of a celebrity (en:Beyoncé Knowles) without any further information. It's the only contribution of this user. That and the purple frame around the picture are IMHO a pretty sure sign that this is not a work by the uploader but rather copied from the web. --88.134.44.2823:40, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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This seems to me like a promophoto. I doubt declared PD status, even though I did see the picture in many places on the web. (Not at all uncommon with band pictures.) Originally uploaded from enwiki, where it has since been deleted as NowCommons. An admin at enwiki could check what the original licence stated by uploader was. Qviri(talk)03:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Deleted. Image not available at the claimed source. Andropov, born in 1914, can not possibly have had gray hair before 1954. Thuresson08:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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(english) Soryy. I uploaded these images to commons, but I misunderstood license states. These images were uploaded at Frickr as cc-by-nd-2.0. "nd" does not suit for commons. Delete, please.Was a bee 04:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
(Japanese) すいません。これらの画像は私がコモンズにアップしたのですが、著作権に関して、勘違いがありました。これらの画像はフリッカにcc-by-nd-2.0. のライセンスでアップロードされていたので、コモンズには適さないものでした。申し訳ありませんが、削除していただきたく思います。お手数おかけして申し訳ありません。 Was a bee04:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Confirmed. They are all licenced under cc-by-nd-2.0 originaly. I changed the licence tags of each image and they will be deleted by term of {{speedy}}.--Kareha01:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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A bloated, low-quality auto-vectorization of Image:BlankMap-World.png. The PNG version is clear and takes up 13,888 bytes. The SVG version is blurry and consumes an absurd 229,419 bytes. A proper conversion would be useful, but this one serves no purpose other than to prompt replacement of the high-quality PNG by people who falsely assume that SVG versions are better no matter what. —David Levy23:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
'Do not delete until there is a suitable replacement. The SVG is still useful, especially for creating new maps, even if it is "bloated". In many cases accuracy is not an absolute requirement for illustrations using maps; you can easily note its problems on its description page, no need for deletion. As Astrokey44 points out, having very high detail is not always positive (my computer cannot load a high-detail SVG of US coastlines without hiccuping; most of the time the images will never be used in circumstances where you would require or expect such detail). Put warnings on it, whatever you want, but deletion is totally uncalled for. --Fastfission18:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
May I add something? Try to fill up a country in your svg image. Then you'll see the difference. It is not possible to fill lines. There was a lot to do by hand. --– Simon / ?!14:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
From the http://www.marxists.org/index.htm: MIA-created material is protected by the Creative Commons License. This image most likely came from official Soviet mass-media (TV or newspapers). Most likely subject stays on Mausoleum during 1 May or November 7 parade (when he was in Central Commetee of CPSU (after 1957/1962)). --EugeneZelenko16:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if the link leads to the marxist enyclopedia, and it says it comes from there and it says it is under the CC-2.5. That it is CC-2.5. Maybe they took the pic and the yreleased it under CC-2.5. How do you know.. It is defenetly for staying. --Edgar Allan Poe19:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They can't release images under CC licenses which were not made by them. Please provide proof that image was made by marxists.org or provide source where marxists.org took it for further investigations. --EugeneZelenko19:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
May be this image was made by marxists.org, but more likely (as for most part of 20 years old images) it was taken from book/newspaper/TV program. This particular image is likely part of bigger one (with all members of Political Bureau and Central Сommittee of CPSU). Don't forget about security during such event like parades, I don't think that random people with camera could be very close to officials. --EugeneZelenko17:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In those parades here is always someone who stands behind the president, leader etc. there is nobody behind him, and anyone would let someone to take a pic of the leader for an encyylopedia, so it is CC. --Edgar Allan Poe19:11, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Still, you cannot delete it beasuce you do not belive it. It says ha the licence is, so stay under CC.
Problem is in fact that marxists.org doesn't claim ownership for all content. Or may be you'll claim that Marx, Lenin, Stalin and etc images were also created by marxists.org and could be licesned by them under CC licenses? --EugeneZelenko15:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I never said that about old pics, but I say that about Andropov. If it is from their encyclopedia, thet they are the owners, and the put it under the CC licence. It is the same as if I took a Gothe book published last years and claim it is Goethe's and not the publishers. Silly. Picture can stay --Edgar Allan Poe21:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I don't believe for a moment that marxists.org has any copyright on this image. It's most likely a newswire photo. Color version here. If anyone feels like e-mailing Novaya Gazeta, I'm pretty sure they can give the photographer/agency they got that image from. But actually it's not our job to prove this is an agency photo, it's the uploader's job to prove that the image were under a free license. Which he has so far failed to do. Lupo16:36, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well thete is a big difference between that bigger and color picture and the small, B/W pic that I uploaded. And why don't you belive that is their picture. The marxist encyylopedia probably has the paper edition, and the pic is surely in it, and if they took it from the book, they surely have the copyright, and if not, if the owner of the site released the picture, THAT IS ON HIS SITE, with the CC licence, it is CC. Same sa wiki, if you did not relese all material onther the free licence, you could sew someone who took your material on their site, and they cannot sew us beacuse it is theri material, and it is under CC. And if it is not from their site, which I doubt, nobody can sew us if it is an unkwon author and C holder.So defenetly stay on wiki. --Edgar Allan Poe20:48, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please learn something about copyright before trying to talk about it. And please stop disregarding copyrights, as you did with most if not all your uploads to Third Reich gallery of photos (German WWII-era photographs are copyrighted!), or with your frivolous PD-self claims for images of Ice-T and a few others. Lupo22:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please enter this conversation if you have something to say about the subject, and the actor pics are mine, but you choose to belive it. And i said up, the picture can stay. --Edgar Allan Poe10:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, but there is. Color and size, are the main, but see the body of Andropov, on the color one it has only from his chest, and on the free one (CC) he is shown almost fomr his legs. So defenetly stay. --Edgar Allan Poe18:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Both images are crops from same bigger one. And if you insist that marxists.org made one, it's mean that marxists.org committed copyrights violation (according to your words). --EugeneZelenko16:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have received another email. I will forward it to m:OTRS so that a trusted person can look into its content. It basically says that he found the image somewhere on the web. -- Bryan (talk to me) 10:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
and elsewhere on Princeton's and other online catalogues. It seems to fall into the book cover category. Any help would be appreciated! Macspaunday20:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Book covers can only be used on English Wikipedia, because they are not "free " material (i.e. they are copyright protected). In general such photos would require permission... so it needs to be deleted from here.. / Fred Chess01:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This deletion request does not appear to have been added to Commons:Deletion requests when created on December 4. Added today (December 31) instead. Note the original image on the English Wikipedia (which was the source for this image) has now been deleted for copyright reasons. Dr pda17:37, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I (Original message from the person on the picture in a mail to me: "Summary" skrev jag:
Denna bild av mig är "tjuvknäppt" när jag öppnar en dörr i ett klassrum av förmodligen en elev (jag har haft över 60 klasser de senaste åren, så jag kan inte kolla).. Därför tar jag bort bilden. In English Someone (probably a student) took this picture of me near a class room (I've teached in more than 60 classes in recent years so I can't check who took the picture)... end therefore I (the person, M.M., on the picture) remove the picture. --83.255.139.3510:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well yes, this (above) is definitely the old request I made in December. Obviously not all involved at the time were telling me the whole story. My request was obviously handled, but not assented. Never spoke to this user Thuresson at the time though. He might have missed the discussion we had about the picture on the discussion page of the article it was part of at the time (Mats Molén, svwp). See also post in WikiEN-1, titled "Defamation of biographiees". // (sv:User:RIL) —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 23:49, 11 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Student took an "invective" picture of teacher, Mats Molén. I probably fumbled last time I made a RFD. See also post "Defamation of biographees" on WikiEN-1 (not indexed yet when typinig this) -- 83.255.135.15123:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Does it matter if the photographer photographed the large-screen projector image at the press conference and not the persons directly? Thuresson22:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Attac does not own the copyright for this ad. (Panoramafreiheit does not apply either because the work is not displayed permanently.) Phrood01:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted by Bryan: Derivative; Panoramafreiheit does not apply
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Bo-rhein-sieg 19:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete Unless it can be proven that the bMA owns the copyright on the photograph, which I doubt. --Phrood 19:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Keep Churches in Italy is the correct name. Commons uses the preposition in for near all building categories, and the matching category in the English Wikipedia is en:Category:Churches in Italy. It's very inconvenient to keep different forms of category names in the project. So, all items in Category:Churches of Italy have to be moved to this one, and so on for its subcategories. --Juiced lemon 01:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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CommentThe Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike License v. 2.5 is irrevocable. --Matt314 15:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete. Yet another one of User:Edgar Allan Poe's "make work for others" uploads. Lupo 09:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Keep Carl Lindberg 06:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I withdraw my support . Has been overwritten with a better lit image using the same perspective. Consumed Crustacean 22:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support deletion
Neutral, posible Commons:OTRS solve this.
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Done - Please try to be patient as we have huge backlogs on commons. This photo was deleted since it's not under a free license. I did, however, contact the copyright holder(s) to try and get them to release the photos under a free license. Yonatanh 18:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Oppose Not a reason for deletion. Siebrand 15:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Because the digital zoom and the dark sky, the resolution is a little bad and blured, but it is the best I can do in that moment.
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