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File:Hednesford Hills Raceway MMB 15.jpg

Thanks for identifying those, but could you please move the image notes so they are actually on top of the cars they're describing? It makes things a lot easier. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:38, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Brian Snelson's photos of the London to Brighton Veteran Car Run 2009 - 024.jpg

Hi CTC. I'm very impressed that you identified the coachwork of the above vehicle as H J Mulliner. How did you do it? Best regards, Eddaido (talk) 05:57, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Eddaido, that was merely good luck. I am working on articles about De Dion-Bouton, the vis-à-vis, and the Populaire for German WP. I have pictures of this car in my archive. When I stumbled over the car at a Bonham auction, I just had to verify that it is the same car; which gave no problem as Y-65 is a regular London to Brighton contender.

Exercpt from the auctioneer's catalogue:

"Y 65 is a 3½ hp car carrying coachwork by Mulliner in the exceptionally rare Imperial Double Phaeton style, described and illustrated in the De Dion Bouton Preliminary Catalogue for 1901. The car carries a plate on the coachwork bearing the inscription “British Motor Co. Ltd. Licenced – Dion Dunlop Co. Ltd. No.971” and Mulliner records confirm that no. 971 was despatched from their works on 6th September 1900.

It is an exceptionally rare Type E, a transitional model manufactured in 1900 with the 80 x 80mm, 402cc, vertical, single-cylinder engine as fitted to the earlier Type D, however with steering, lever gear-change and rear hub brakes as fitted to the 4½ hp Type G1 introduced in late 1900."--Chief tin cloud (talk) 13:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

I've added the above to the file's description - is that OK? and put the nice image on the H J Mulliner article because I think it is important to remind readers that coachbuilders were not a development of the second quarter of the 20th century. Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 11:37, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine with me, and I agree with your comment on coachbuilders. Thank you very much.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 12:17, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

File:14-01-18-autostadt-zeithaus-RalfR-037.jpg

Hallo, eins vorweg: ich vertraue deinem Fachwissen! Das ist kein Bugatti Atlantic? In Wolfsburg sagen sie aber genau das, es sei ein Original. --Ralf Roleček 20:46, 11 June 2014 (UTC) da sind noch mehr Bilder:

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Das ist ein Missverständnis, diese Kategorie enthält definitiv einen Bugatti Type 57SC Atlantic. Ich habe nur dieses eine Bild (Nr. 37) entfernt, das sich wohl versehentlich in die Kategorie eingeschlichen hat. Es zeigt einen Ausschnitt von einem anderen Auto, das ich leider noch nicht identifizieren konnte. Es ist aber definitiv kein Bugatti. Ich bin darüber gestolpert, weil ich gerade an einer Überarbeitung von de:Bugatti Type 57 arbeite. Kompliment übrigens für Deine wirklich tollen Aufnahmen!--Chief tin cloud (talk) 23:26, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Mann, wie aufmerksam! Da habe ich mich wohl mal umgedreht! Es hat aber keinen Sinn, hinzugehen, die parken die Autos ständig um. Solche Bilder sind relativ einfach zu machen, wenn man 20 Kilo Stativ mitschleppt....--Ralf Roleček 08:06, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Das Fahrzeug war als Horch 670 von 1932 beschrieben: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Horch_670_in_the_ZeitHaus. --Buch-t (talk) 09:29, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Continental

Hallo Chief tin cloud, schau Dir mal bitte Category:Continental Division vehicles, Category:Lincoln Continental, Category:Lincoln Mark Series und Category:Lincoln vehicles mitsamt den Unterkategorien an. So sollte z.B. kein 1971er Modell in Category:Continental Mark III sein, und dieses Bild überrascht mich in Category:Lincoln Continental (third generation). Aber Du kennst Dich da besser aus. Gruss --Buch-t (talk) 10:41, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Buch-t, der 71er ist ein Lincoln Continental Mark III und gehört in Category:Lincoln Mark III und mit dem Einzelbild hat Du auch recht, das ist ein 61-62er der 4.Gen. Ich hab's korrigiert und sehe mir die Kategorien später genauer an. Danke für den Hinweis.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 09:40, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Alles bestens. --Buch-t (talk) 18:16, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Supposed "Unidentified" automobiles

I just discovered through your history that you've been moving images of vehicles that are listed as being unidentified into their correct categories. I'm SO GLAD that I'm not the only editor doing this. ----DanTD (talk) 01:09, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, so am I. We just got a new load of such pictures... Seems, this work will never end. --Chief tin cloud (talk) 11:22, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

File:1958 Packard Clipper (16138781457).jpg and others

Your rename request is incomplete. You have to put a number of a Criterion of renaming (look here). Proper template is: {{rename|filename|number of a Criterion|description in words}} If you would like to have these files renamed, you have to fill the gaps in your requests. Wieralee (talk) 13:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I hope, I got it fixed, now.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 09:13, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Packard image categories

Hi Ctc, I'm concerned because I have just found that I might be messing up your good work. I was planning to use the chassis model numbers and I see you recommend against it. I have just added some images to this category because it seemed to be the right thing to do., Category:Packard Eight. Should there be a category for Packard station wagons? oops, there is a category Category:Packard Station Sedan so forget that.

Now I thought I would like to check with you as to what is the best way to categorise Packard. I look forward to hearing from you. Best regards,, Eddaido (talk) 11:15, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Hallo Eddaido, sorry for answering late, I am not checking this page regularly. I'm glad to offer my help for this task, although I admit I am not through with the category system and rules here.

The Packard model designation and naming system is very complicated and often neither logical nor consistent. It is possible to use a system by series starting with the 6th series (1929) until 26th series (1953); 13th series was omitted. A numbering system for Packards after 1929 (6th series) would work similarly, the problem is that these numbers often are unknown or uncommon to the user who is searching a Packard certain model, or wants to add a picture

For 1954-1956, series designation corresponded with the model year. 1957 and 1958 had no series designation but a Studebaker model code consisting of the year and a suffix for the body style, f.e. 58L-Y8. "58L" means 1958 Packard, and Y8 is the code for the pillared sedan. Sincerely,--Chief tin cloud (talk) 19:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for this. I'm currently working on Buick, taken there by McLaughlin. I've found an online set of Buick brochures and catalogues right back to the beginning of their time so I am using them to mark each model year with those engines and bodies available to buy in each model year, or maybe that is just my plan ;-)) When I've sorted that lot out and some other urgent stuff I will come back here for further education in the Packard mysteries. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 04:19, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, oldcarbrochures is a fine source. I frequently use it, too, for my articles in the German WP. You perhaps will find this site very useful for Packard identification.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 08:21, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, its now in my favourites. Eddaido (talk) 11:03, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

ReVere

Aloha! Danke fuer die neue Kategorie! Ich habe fuer ReVere Motor Corp auf Wikidata eine Seite angelegt: d:Q41362511. LG, --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 23:16, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Enfield automotive vehicles

Hi Chief tin cloud. Thanks for upgrading the info but you seem to have forgotten the files should be in Category:Enfield Automotive automobiles. Do you mind if I make that change? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 12:27, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Eddaido, I am not sure about my error, but your help is always very welcome. Thanks and regard,--Chief tin cloud (talk) 12:31, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi again. You are making a number of changes to my work and they seem to me to be wrong. When you change my edits would you please double check you are correct to do so! Eddaido (talk) 12:38, 22 November 2017 (UTC) I was so upset I missed your response above. I'm afraid I have to leave this for another 12 hours or so. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 12:41, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm very sorry. Please, revert my changes when you disagree. I will contact you before further action. Regards,--Chief tin cloud (talk) 12:46, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Done. Cropped from a file made available by the Gallica archive in PD. I learned that pd-old fits here, see File:Btv1b8448932q-p077-b.jpg. Can't open CropTool.

Yours sincerely, --Chief tin cloud (talk) 16:43, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Hallo JuTa! Erklär mir mal bitte auf deutsch, was das Problem mit diesen Dateien hier ist. Liebe Grüße, Doc Taxon (talk)

Das Problem war, dass die Dateien keine (valide) Lizenz-Vorlage hatten. (Siehe Commons:Licensing/de und Commons:Copyright tags/de). Gruß --JuTa 18:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Ich verstehe nicht, was falsch sein soll. Das sind nur Ausschnittvergrösserungen einer regulär hochgeladenen Datei aus dem Gallica-Archiv aus dem Jahr 1904.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 19:16, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Ja, aber die Lizenz solltest Du dann trotzdem schon mit übernehmen. @JuTa: die Vorlagen sind jetzt aber drin, oder? Alles okay jetzt? Doc Taxon (talk)

Ja, jetzt alles OK, aber welche Lizenz hätte ich denn in diesem Zustand übernehmen können/sollen? --JuTa 23:52, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Danke Euch beiden. Ich tu's auch nie wieder, versprochen. Das ist was für Profis und ich bin halt keiner...--Chief tin cloud (talk) 23:58, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

naja, @JuTa: ist hier Admina und Bürokratin, sie weiß glaub ich am allerbesten, wie das funktioniert. Magst Du es nicht erklären, JuTa? Danke, Doc Taxon (talk) 00:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, was soll ich da erklären?! Jedes Bild auf Commons benötigt eine (zustreffende) Lizenz-Vorlage auf dessen Beschrebungsseite. Fehlt diese, oder ist diese nicht zutreffend, wird has Bild (hoffentlich) früher oder später gefunden und entweder korregiert oder etsprechend markiert, was dann zur Löschung führt, falls sich nichts dran ändert. Hier nochmal die Links von oben (bitte lesen): Commons:Licensing/de und Commons:Copyright tags/de. Gruß --JuTa 00:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Nochmals Danke und Entschuldigung für die Mehrarbeit, die ich verursacht habe. Ich schaue mir das an. In der Hoffnung natürlich, dass ich auch verstehe, was ich da lese. Wenn ich genauer hingeschaut hätte, wäre mir natürlich aufgefallen, dass ich mit Dir, JuTa, auf Deutsch kommunizieren kann. Das hätte ich dann auch gemacht. Alles sehr suboptimal von mir...--Chief tin cloud (talk) 01:37, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Nee, nicht suboptimal. Du hast Dich mir anvertraut in der Hoffnung, dass ich helfen kann. Das war's doch auch schon. Dann hab ich in diesem Zusammenhang den Namen JuTa gesehen und wusste, dass sie hier auch helfen kann und wird, bzw. dies erklären kann und wird. Ich würde nicht immer gleich so schnell die Flinte ins Korn werfen. Besser ist es doch, wenn man mit denjenigen reden kann. Hast ja gesehen, vieles klärt sich auf bzw. wird geklärt. Und hinterher ist normalerweise ein jeder etwas klüger. Ich hatte am Anfang auch so vieles nicht gewusst, aber immer wissbegierig dazugelernt. Denk einfach noch mal über das ganze Hin und Her in Ruhe nach, und bis dahin wünsche ich Dir eine gute Nacht. Doc Taxon (talk)

File:Duesenberg-D.jpg

Hi CTC. Why have you moved this file from Duesenberg automobiles? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 11:41, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Eddaido. This car is far better known as the Duesenberg II than the model D. Although I am aware of this car for quite a while, I learned here that it was also called the Model D... Regards, --Chief tin cloud (talk) 11:48, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I am sorry, I do not understand your thinking. I just wonder why you moved this file from Duesenberg automobiles? Eddaido (talk) 11:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

"11:38, 22 May 2019‎ Chief tin cloud talk contribs‎ 338 bytes -8‎ transferred from Category:Duesenberg automobiles to new Category:Duesenberg II"

You have decided it is not a Duesenberg automobile? Eddaido (talk) 11:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

No, altough this could be a disputable point. In fact, it is still there, under the new Category Duesenberg II. I took this designation as it is the one by which the car is usually identified. Further, there were Duesenberg engine projects designated A-G prior to 1919. Finally, I did the same to the D that has already been done to Duesenberg A, J, JN, SJ, and X.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 12:12, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

It is clear we are talking at cross purposes. I will have to come back to talk about this more in about 12 hours. Did you have any luck in Malta? If not may I revert your changes to the car from St Louis? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 12:15, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Malta? This time, I do not understand...

Of course we can discuss that later.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 12:24, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

All's well, I see its now adding back into Duesenberg automobiles. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 11:06, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Packard images

Looking at the number of hits that, for example, Category:1956 Packard automobiles has received since me and you piled in some information do you think it is worth the effort of continuing? regards, Eddaido (talk) 11:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

For me, it's kind of work of love, so, yes I do. 1956 is special, anyway, as it is the only year when Clipper was a make, not a model, and there was a model built for 3 months only (the Executive). regards, --Chief tin cloud (talk) 11:34, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I asked the question at Wikiproject Automobiles and find I cannot make a proper link to the Commons category. Do you know how to do it and if so please would you fix it? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 11:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Eddaido, sorry for the delay in answering. I have not yet worked with Wikiproject Automobiles (perhaps, I should), so, I can not help you. Of course, I will accept changes that are easening the matter.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 13:38, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Its OK, after a couple of days of worrying about making a fool of myself I finally guessed how to make that line (between WP and a Commons category). If you don't usually look at that project talk page here's a link: en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles. That's all I was thinking about. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 22:45, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Ford or Cadillac?

Ford Model F??? Weird grille shape

Hi Ctc, Eddaido suggested asking you about help ID'ing this one. To me, every detail of the body (down to the four bolts beneath the front "doorway") matches a Ford Model F, but the shape of the grille is unlike anything else I can find. Eddaido suggested Cadillac, which I was considering for a while, but I can't decide. The Category:1956 Packard automobiles page is awesome, I have used it as a template several times already. Best, mr.choppers (talk)^-en- 14:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Mr.choppers, thank you for the compliment. In fact, I did it following what I learned from User:Eddaido, so he is the one to blame :) I'm glad it worked so well. I'll try to identify that 1905 car. --Chief tin cloud (talk) 18:58, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

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Arosio Stefano (talk) 09:38, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Passed away

I am very sorry to hear this, he was always friendly and enthusiastic and knowledgeable. Eddaido (talk) 04:45, 23 August 2020 (UTC)