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MeJew movement

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MeJew movement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another AI-generated hoax by User:Jeaucques Quœure. #MeJew was a Sundance Film Festival panel and does not appear to be an actual movement or awareness campaign. Flounder fillet (talk) 20:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is clearly not a hoax! https://britishcinematographer.co.uk/2023-sundance-film-festival-announce-beyond-film-conversations/ https://www.indiewire.com/news/festivals/israel-representation-panel-palestinian-protest-sundance-same-time-1234944791/ https://jewinthecity.com/2023/01/jew-in-the-city-hosts-historic-panel-at-sundance-film-festival/ etc. (Jew in the City is another possible target for this in case it is redirected) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These sources all support what I wrote - #MeJew was a Sundance Film Festival panel and does not appear to be an actual movement or awareness campaign. Flounder fillet (talk) 15:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe. But you claimed it was a hoax and my! vote is for a merge. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"#MeJew" exists, the "#MeJew movement" does not, and everything in this article other than the sentence At the 2023 Sundance Film Festival, a panel discussed how Jewish characters are often depicted through stereotypical or inauthentic lenses. is false. This is a hoax. Flounder fillet (talk) 17:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No.
Wording, even (or rather mostly) the title of the article, and statements may need rework, cleanup etc (or the page needs a redirect to its original context, as my !vote suggests) but this is not what is generally called a hoax. The word is misleading. Hoax is CSD territory, this is not, as existing coverage shows.
"#MeJew"=a response to the underrepresentation and misrepresentation of Jews in Hollywood and media. It focuses on fighting antisemitic tropes, ensuring accurate portrayals of Jewish identity, and addressing the exclusion of Jewish voices from their own stories" is NOT false.
It calls for Jews, especially observant ones, to be authentically represented in film and television rather than being portrayed through external perspectives that reinforce harmful clichés, such as controlling, greedy, or unattractive personas." is NOT false.
It "criticizes casting practices where non-Jewish actors are chosen to play Jewish characters, overlooking the depth of Jewish experience, culture, and identity. An example raised during the discussion was Helen Mirren being cast to play Golda Meir, which sparked conversations about authenticity and cultural sensitivity in Hollywood." is NOT false.
See sources.
So basically remove the word "movement" and change it for the panel/participants/whatever you deem right and everything is sourced and correct. Calling it a hoax is therefore very exaggerated and misleading in my view. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The distinction between a panel and a "movement" is very wide. Having an article on a single panel discussion is giving undue weight to a minor one-time event. Calling it a movement is absolutely a hoax. Toughpigs (talk) 19:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, my !vote is for a merge so that I partially agree with that. But, again, I disagree on ’absolutely a hoax’. Any panel who launches such a hashtag probably hopes it will end in a movement so that, although it is not an actual movement and the gap may be wide, it is not as if someone was trying to make us believe something totally untrue and that we cannot easily check and correct accordingly. Most of what is on the page is true and sourced, I have no further comments. If anyone wants to make a point and truly believes it’s indeed technically a hoax, nominate for CSD. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:52, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Murder of Yafim Weinstein

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. No indication of notability. Common occurence. scope_creepTalk 09:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment several of the sources in this article are SIGCOV, so it definitely does not fail that. Sigcov being defined as it is in the guideline as content that "addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content." Whether it passes WP:NEVENT is a different matter. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I agree with PARAKANYAA that there is plenty of SIGCOV. I would like to see more lasting yet, according to nom, the problem is SIGCOV. No such problem. gidonb (talk) 23:36, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After Pharaoh of the Wizards's research, I feel better about LASTING. Kudos for identifying so many good sources, Pharaoh! I had seen MUCH MORE SIGCOV, in Hebrew, in the 2009–2016 range. gidonb (talk) 22:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Hebrew Wikipedia is not even referenced. And going around putting text in uppercase is the typical fare from yourself. scope_creepTalk 16:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A few words in uppercase come really handy. Folks can quickly see where you put your emphasis. It's respectful to fellow-Wikipedians, who are also plowing through large amounts of information and trying to make good sense of it. Now you say something about a lack of referencing on Hewiki. Can you put that comment on the talk page over there? It's a bit out of context here. I can make sure that the fine reference it has also is included here. gidonb (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. gidonb (talk) 22:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ Lappin, Yaakov (30 November 2009). "Taxi driver found dead in cab in North". The Jerusalem Post. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  2. ^ "Nazareth Imam Convicted of Inciting Terror". Israel National News. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  3. ^ Shay, S. (2017). Somalia in Transition Since 2006. Taylor & Francis. p. 1-PT87. ISBN 978-1-351-48876-1. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  4. ^ Azriel, Guy (28 June 2010). "7 Nazareth residents indicted for attacks against Jews, Christians". CNN. CNN. Archived from the original on 9 September 2014. Retrieved 8 September 2014.
  5. ^ Ashkenazi, Eli (15 July 2010). "Shin Bet Arrests Eight Israeli Arabs for Illicit Arms Trading". Haaretz.com. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
  • Comment The problem with the coverage is the WP:ROUTINE nature of a generic event, a taxi driver killed, that happens as a regular event all over the planet and has been happening with Jews and other folk for centuries. There is not a single thing makes this standout event as anything special, yet it has been elevated in a manner that doesn't fit. That is the reason I sent it for delete. We record the mundane, the mediocre and the generic on here and we don't know how to get rid of this trash. Here is one [1] in reverse. scope_creepTalk 04:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Getting a lot of 403's and a couple of passing mention on this entirely routine report of murder. I cant seem to see them. I'll try in the morning again but it does seem complete mundane, mediocre and generic reporting. scope_creepTalk 02:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Israeli massacres in Gaza 2023–2024

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List of Israeli massacres in Gaza 2023–2024 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't appear to be notable based on the usual WP:NLIST standard. I found this but AA is WP:GUNREL; also this video but reliability is questionable.

Definitions of massacre vary, and this particular list seems to use an unusually broad definition. If we were to pare it down to notable events which are commonly known as massacres, it would just become a sublist of List of massacres in the Palestinian territories, which doesn't seem useful since that list isn't particularly long. — xDanielx T/C\R 22:13, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose deletion. Though may support renaming. The massacres of entire families in Gaza is indeed standalone notable topic in accordance with WP:NLIST as per tons of reliable sources, Time, Associated Press, LA Times, Amnesty international, Airwars, etc. Perhaps the problem may be a naming problem, as the article calls the “wiping out” of entire family incidents “massacres”, which is what should be discussed, definitely not the existence or notability of the entire list (i.e the incidents of “wiping out” of entire families) in the first place. Thanks for pinging me.
Stephan rostie (talk) 18:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps should be renamed to something like List of mass killings in Gaza (2023-2024). IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 18:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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2023 Nicosia Israeli embassy bombing

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The reason I'm requesting this article be deleted is:

  • As far as a bombing on the embassy, the embassy wasn't bombed and the explosive went off 30 meters away and nowhere near the embassy
  • According to the sources themselves (Times of Israel and AP), Cyprus Police never stated that the target was the embassy building thus implying as such is Original Research
  • From my research no charges or at least no convictions have come out from this event and as such we don't actually know what the motives were nor what the outcome of this investigation was.
  • Im assuming that due to the event not picking up any traction except from the day it was reported, there was likely a lot of sensationalization from media organisations due to Cyprus and Israel's relationship and the timing of it, happening less than a few weeks after October 7th.ShovelandSpade (talk) 14:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Terrorism, Israel, and Cyprus. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. In addition to the OR issues, the bombing would require sustained analysis or study beyond news coverage. Right now, it's just a WP:News article. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yet very early for such. This event was on October 21, 2023. gidonb (talk) 14:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge (selectively) into Cyprus–Israel relations. Let's work by the points, nice touch for an intro. #1 agreed, this does not help notability. #2 the newspapers tied the bomb to the embassy so not really OR. #3 agreed, this does not help notability either. #4 We do not know that either. In conclusion, a minor event including by some of the criteria raised. No article on Hewiki. Also, seems entirely missing at Cyprus–Israel relations, so an improper SPINOUT. Best briefly mentioned at the parent. gidonb (talk) 05:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Issue is nobody actually confirmed the embassy was a target and Cyprus isnt new to pyrotechnic incidents whether it be the football, political events, hooliganism in general etc. ShovelandSpade (talk) 10:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Therefore shouldn't remain an article, now and in the future. The press did tie this to the embassy consistently. Also claiming it might be unrelated is OR. We follow the RS. gidonb (talk) 12:41, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Press tied it due to proximity, not any official statement (Either from the Cypriot or Israeli governments). As most articles themselves in the titles say "near the Israeli embassy" or something along those lines, I'm addressing this with regards to merging it to Cyprus Israel relations. ShovelandSpade (talk) 13:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Press says near the embassy and that is what we will write. NEVER ENGAGE IN OR, disregardful of its direction! You are warning against one direction of OR and engage in the opposite OR. Perhaps only to make a point. Both directions, however, are bad and should not add or remove information from the article space. gidonb (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Im saying were not informed enough to make a definitive statement and definitely not enough to include in any article, the AP article clearly states "Police did not say whether the bombing some 30 meters (98 feet) from the Israeli Embassy was connected to the war in Gaza." Surely then adding it to an article related to embassy attacks would make it OR. I just think generally it lacks verifiability to even be listed anywhere. ShovelandSpade (talk) 16:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Tails Wx 15:02, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the press agencies (RS) tie this to the embassy we should too. Second guessing the press is OR. gidonb (talk) 02:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mehazkim

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Based on the sourcing in this article, the organisation does not meet WP:NCORP. The Hebrew article isn’t any help in terms of additional sources that would show the topic is notable. There may be better sources in Hebrew that I can’t find, but if not I think this should be deleted, Mccapra (talk) 03:42, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a recognized association in Israel (link here & here), It's also known for it's political activities (some English sources: 1, 2, 3). I don't think the article should be deleted, but I'll respect the community decision. אקסינו (talk) 07:00, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Keep As it covers an important progressive movement in Israel that has made a significant impact on social and political issues. The group has been involved in campaigns for environmental protection, human rights, and social justice, which have received media attention. There are reliable sources that show the group's importance, including news articles and reports about its activities. --RodrigoIPacce (talk) 12:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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