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Ellie Goulding and Rita Ora
[edit]Did he go out with these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlfonsiniGumezez (talk • contribs) 14:52, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Other work section
[edit]His other work section should be merged inside the article according to succession of years, it makes no sense to put his collaborations and contributions to other artists's albums in a separate entity when it is a great part of his career as a producer and makes up a large part of his career. Meryam90 (talk) 14:05, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Genre.......
[edit]Deep House??? Coldplay made one EDM song, does that turn them into an EDM band? No. Then why is Calvin Harris listed as a deep house artist "How Deep Is Your Love" is his only deep house track. Meanwhile almost every single Calvin Harris song can be classified as Dance-pop, and yet it is not listed as his genre. "Under Control" "Let's Go" "Drinking From The Bottle" and "Summer" trance inspired progressive house (which should also be listed as his genre) fused with Dance-pop. I'm using my ears listening to the the leads, the synths, the stabs, the saws, the bass, the kick, the clap, the snare, the tempo and the use of reverb, noise, delay and filter. How do you think the people that wrote those article determined the genre of his songs? "The hidden secret book of how to determine music genres"? Don't be dumb, reconsider the use of sources to determine genres. Let's take it to the talk section instead. BrandonWLam (talk) 20:54, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
-- Wikipedia doesn't rely on people's ears or experience. In order to add a piece of information you need a RELIABLE SOURCE. The deep house genre has been added with a Billboard magazine reference attached to it. I respect the fact that you want to contribute to the article but all you need to do is FIND references from sites/publications that are considered reliable here in Wikipedia and then add every genre your heart desires...We can NOT let you add unreliable information no matter how sure you are of it,personally . It is as simple as that. Furthermore, being respectful and polite wont kill you...no matter how right you are, it doesnt give the right to call people names... --Meryam90 (talk) 22:51, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Calvin Harris
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Calvin Harris's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "itunes":
- From Feel So Close: "Feel So Close – EP by Calvin Harris". iTunes Store Ireland. Apple. Retrieved 19 August 2011.
- From Call My Name (Cheryl Cole song): Eames, Tom (10 June 2012). "Cheryl Cole's 'Call My Name' leaps to iTunes No.1 hours after release". Digital Spy. Hearst Magazines UK. Retrieved 11 June 2012.
- From Summer (Calvin Harris song): "Summer – Single by Calvin Harris". iTunes Store (NZ). Apple. Archived from the original on 17 July 2014. Retrieved 21 March 2014.
- From Sweet Nothing (Calvin Harris song): "Sweet Nothing (feat. Florence Welch) – EP by Calvin Harris". iTunes Store (AU). Apple. Retrieved 19 January 2013.
- From Under Control (Calvin Harris and Alesso song): "Under Control (feat. Hurts) – Single by Calvin Harris & Alesso". iTunes Store (SE). Apple. Retrieved 7 October 2013.
- From Florence and the Machine: "https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/how-big-how-blue-how-beautiful/id965931771". iTunes. 13 May 2015. Retrieved 14 June 2015.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 19:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Redoing awkward sentence
[edit]This sentence reads rather awkwardly: "Harris has received ten Brit Award nominations—three for Best British Male, and four Grammy nominations, winning a Grammy for Best Music Video in 2013."
What if we changed it to: Harris has received ten Brit Award nominations including three for Best British Male. He has also received four Grammy nominations, winning a Grammy for Best Music Video in 2013.
Or: Harris has received ten Brit Award nominations (three for Best British Male) and four Grammy nominations, winning a Grammy for Best Music Video in 2013.
BurritoSlayer (talk) 21:28, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Content dispute - Add deep house/tropical house as genre or not
[edit]Hello everyone!
I think deep house and tropical house should be added to Calvin Harris' genres because he has produced several songs of these genres. "This Is What You Came For", "How Deep Is Your Love", "Hype" being deep house and "I Need Your Love", "Outside", "My Way" being tropical house. I also cited a source to a Billboard article mentioning the genre of "My Way" (which is tropical house) and there are more sources too. One song should be enough to add an overall genre.
Please provide your opinion on whether deep house + tropical house should be added as the genres in this Calvin Harris article.
@Calidum: @SnapSnap: @Destiny Leo: @AAron 8967: @Caden:
- TheMagnificentist (talk) 04:50, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- It would be best if you could back it up with sources, or expand on this in the prose if you could rather than just add it. Generally, the artist infobox should represent their own material under their own name. For example, Elvis Costello produced the ska band The Specials debut album but that shouldn't have Costello being labeled as ska in his group, as he does not produce that kind of music. That's my opinion. Andrzejbanas (talk) 05:05, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- All the songs mentioned in the OP are Calvin's own material, he didn't produce those for other artists. The point is, only "How Deep Is Your Love" and "My Way" have sources supporting deep house and tropical house, respectively. One tropical house song does not make Calvin a tropical house artist, see WP:OR. snαp • snαp (talk) 05:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- You are missing the point. Do you really expect some business magazines like Billboard and such to know about genres? They're journalists, they're not music experts to accurately determine the genres of artists and songs. On the source of the other mentioned genre "nu-disco", it was stated that "The Scottish electro-house/nu-disco producer will perform". Did you think that one line was relevant enough to prove that Calvin Harris is a "nu-disco" artist? This brings me to my second point which suggests that you or any other editor are not required to dictate about what is allowed and what not because the guidelines provided are not necessarily correct. Furthermore, music is different from other topics. You don't need sources to tell you which genre is which, you only need ears to do that. By simple logic, if he produced a tropical house song, he is a tropical house artist. Hypothetically, if a hip-hop rapper makes an EDM song, I would think that he is also an EDM artist because we cannot simply negate the idea that his song does contribute to his overall genre. In addition, what you are saying is similar to saying "the earth is not round because the journalists didn't say it". - TheMagnificentist (talk) 06:34, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- I would certainly expect a music business magazine like Billboard to know how to describe the genre of a musical work. It's ridiculous to suppose otherwise. The business side of music is even more interested in genre than the artist side. Binksternet (talk) 07:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yes I agree that deep house and tropical house should be added as genres for Calvin Harris. Caden cool 14:55, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- Genres certainly do need to be verified by reliable third-party sources, like pretty much everything else on Wikipedia. Describing an artist's music as belonging to a particular genre based on one or two songs and claiming "you only need ears" to determine genres is nothing but original research. All the genres contained in Calvin's infobox are supported by sources that refer to his music as a whole, not specific songs. Besides, you used the exact same Billboard article to support both deep house and tropical house, yet only the latter is mentioned. snαp • snαp (talk) 21:45, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yes I agree that deep house and tropical house should be added as genres for Calvin Harris. Caden cool 14:55, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- I would certainly expect a music business magazine like Billboard to know how to describe the genre of a musical work. It's ridiculous to suppose otherwise. The business side of music is even more interested in genre than the artist side. Binksternet (talk) 07:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- You are missing the point. Do you really expect some business magazines like Billboard and such to know about genres? They're journalists, they're not music experts to accurately determine the genres of artists and songs. On the source of the other mentioned genre "nu-disco", it was stated that "The Scottish electro-house/nu-disco producer will perform". Did you think that one line was relevant enough to prove that Calvin Harris is a "nu-disco" artist? This brings me to my second point which suggests that you or any other editor are not required to dictate about what is allowed and what not because the guidelines provided are not necessarily correct. Furthermore, music is different from other topics. You don't need sources to tell you which genre is which, you only need ears to do that. By simple logic, if he produced a tropical house song, he is a tropical house artist. Hypothetically, if a hip-hop rapper makes an EDM song, I would think that he is also an EDM artist because we cannot simply negate the idea that his song does contribute to his overall genre. In addition, what you are saying is similar to saying "the earth is not round because the journalists didn't say it". - TheMagnificentist (talk) 06:34, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- All the songs mentioned in the OP are Calvin's own material, he didn't produce those for other artists. The point is, only "How Deep Is Your Love" and "My Way" have sources supporting deep house and tropical house, respectively. One tropical house song does not make Calvin a tropical house artist, see WP:OR. snαp • snαp (talk) 05:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
FYI
[edit]@SnapSnap: just to let you know, a vocalist does classical music and a singer does others. - TheMagnificentist (talk) 05:24, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- @TheMagnificentist: Oh, okay. Thanks. We mostly use "singer" to refer to popular musicians on Wikipedia anyway. snαp • snαp (talk) 02:19, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
@BlossomFlower: - TheMagnificentist (talk) 08:55, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- @SnapSnap: @TheMagnificentist: Sorry for the late post here: Harris refers to himself as "vocalist," which is the correct and more popular term for pop artists.[1][2][3] The definition of vocalist is one who regularly performs jazz or pop.BlossomFlower (talk) 13:57, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ "No Featured Vocalist Needed as Calvin Harris Sings on New Single 'My Way'!". Kiss925.com. Retrieved 30 November 2016.
- ^ Benjamin, Jeff. "CALVIN HARRIS RETURNS AS A VOCALIST ON NEW SINGLE "SUMMER"". Fuse.tv. Retrieved 30 November 2016.
- ^ "What Is Calvin Harris' "My Way" About? There Are Many Interpretations Of The Song — LISTEN". Bustle.com. Retrieved 30 November 2016.
Proposal for article separation
[edit]I would like to propose that the "Awards and nominations" section be split into a separate article "List of awards and nominations received by Calvin Harris". - ReZawler (talk • contribs) 17:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- I support your proposal. Caden cool 16:43, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
@KevindeAmsterdam:@Cornerstonepicker:@SnapSnap:@Binksternet:@Ss112:
- TheMagnificentist (talk) 00:51, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think it's ok, but there are almost no sources there. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 01:23, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
I agree, linking to a list article is probably the best option. KevindeAmsterdam (talk) 03:48, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- An awards article is a good idea. You'll have to find references, but that won't be too hard. Binksternet (talk) 01:18, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
UK and US
[edit]There has been a back and forth on the article the last couple of days between SnapSnap and myself. It started out when i saw that an IP had been reverted after adding UK after his place of birth. The IP pointed out inconsistency between not having the UK after the place of birth and having US after his place of residence. They suggested removing the US from the residence. I did that and was reverted with an explanation that "This has been discussed a million times; Scotland and the US are countries, the UK is a sovereign country." I see no discussion that US belongs because it is not sovereign (it is sovereign). I see discussion that UK doesn't need to be added after his birthplace. I agree we don't need to add UK there, but we also don't need to add US after his place of residence. The UK and the US are on par with each other as to status, both are sovereign countries and well know. Neither one needs to be listed as the final location identifier. ~ GB fan a "frantic, furious ball of anger" 17:24, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Adding "US" is most certainly necessary. Per Template:Infobox musical artist and Template:Infobox person, the birth place parameter should follow the "City, State/Province, Country" pattern. Leaving it as "Dumfries, Scotland" and "Los Angeles, California" is just plain wrong, since Scotland is a country and California is a state. When I said this matter has been discussed a million times, I was referring to adding "UK" after "Scotland". You keep mentioning US shouldn't be listed, yet you haven't provided a valid reason for that. I still don't really see a reason to add UK when there's already Scotland, but if you feel that you can't list or omit one without the other, then both should be listed, as I see no reason whatsoever why US should be omitted. I'm not going to keep arguing over such a minor issue. snapsnap (talk) 00:22, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
- US and UK are the same level. They are both the top level of country. Why should one be listed and the other not? ~ GB fan a "frantic, furious ball of anger" 00:47, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
- Like I said, adding UK seems like overkill when Scotland is already mentioned. However, if you strongly believe that UK shouldn't be omitted while US is still listed, then both should be listed, as I see no reason why listing US is unnecessary. snapsnap (talk) 06:36, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
- US and UK are the same level. They are both the top level of country. Why should one be listed and the other not? ~ GB fan a "frantic, furious ball of anger" 00:47, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2019
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whch missing i 2605:E000:9149:8300:A0EB:2686:820E:42BF (talk) 19:49, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Marianna251TALK 19:51, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Why such old Pictures?
[edit]It's as if he died in 2012.
if Wiki wants to be important, it HAS to be current...including pics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.83.119.11 (talk) 21:44, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC
[edit]Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC for the use of radio station/networks' playlists being cited in articles. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 00:03, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
"Calvis Harris" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Calvis Harris and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 4#Calvis Harris until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 17:04, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Is he no longer identifying as a disc jockey?
[edit]Started from 2016 and 17 Harris is focusing on other genres like funk and rnb and hip-hop; the question is is that affecting his journey as a disc jockey; do we identify calvin in the first place as "disc jockey" or "musician"? 196.191.188.78 (talk) 21:57, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Because he was one at some point of his life. (CC) Tbhotch™ 00:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
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