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Q2: Andrew Tate goes by xe/xim pronouns. Why doesn't the article use them?
A2: Per MOS:GENDERID, articles use the pronouns found in the most recent reliable sources. While self-identification is usually sufficient for pronouns per WP:ABOUTSELF, there is serious doubt among editors that Andrew Tate's claims to prefer xe/xim or she/her pronouns are genuine. The self-identifcation is thus an exceptional claim and not, on its own, a reliable source. As of yet, no independent source refers to Tate using xe/xim or she/her pronouns.
Q3: Why isn't Andrew Tate's conversion to Islam mentioned in the article?
A3: Andrew Tate's conversion to Islam is mentioned in the article under § Personal life. The "stance" parameter in the infobox does not refer to Tate's religious stance; rather, it refers to his boxing stance during his time as a kickboxer. He fought with an orthodox stance.
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A fact from Andrew Tate appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Andrew Tate is not "far-right", whatever that means. He has never excirsized racial superiority online. Also, he described himself as a misogynist with sarcasm after being called a mysoginist multiple times by the media. The over-using of sources at the beggining shows the cherry-picking and framing in this page. I don’t like Andrew Tate, but lying or misleading on Wikipedia is not good. Hopefully this page gets redone. MicholIsUsed (talk) 21:15, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MicholIsUsed, if there is an over-use of sources, it's probably because sometimes it requires proof that the sky is blue. But having so many sources is really the opposite of cherry-picking, isn't it. Drmies (talk) 21:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It’s cherry picking because the people who created this page wanted to paint a specific narrative and that’s easier to do using cherry-picked sentences from sources. Still didn’t adress the 'far-right' claim or the fact that him saying 'I’m a misogynist' in sarcasm when the media described him like this time and time before isn’t him saying 'I hate wommen'. I wonder why the page doesn’t quote him saying 'I absoleutly love wommen', he says that a lot and without sarcasm. Is that not cherry-picking? I never thought I’d be defending Andrew Tate. MicholIsUsed (talk) 21:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't 'I love women' (by a misogynist) akin to 'I can't be racist, I have Black friends' (by a racist)?
The article does not actually say that Tate himself is far-right. The furthest it goes is in the lead when it says that Tate is "associated with far-right activists and ideologies" and in the § Views and influence section when it says that he "has ties to the far-right". The available sources suggest both of these statements are true. 〜Askarion✉03:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He is not associated to the far-right in any way. The far-right are ultra-nationalists, racists, usually anti-semites and anti-blacks. They also support authoritarianism, nativism, also 'ultra-conservativism', which Andrew always says (in a nutshell) 'these are the conditons I live in, you can live however you want' and he doesn’t even promote 'ultra-conservativism' on a personal level either - he brags about sleeping with hundreds of wommen, which is as far from ultra-conservativism as you get. Andrew Tate has never talked to a National Socialist or a Fascist online and doesn’t express their views, neither economically or politically. He is mixed-race, has never supported racism, anti-semitism or any of that bs. So, he isn’t far-right, not ascosiated with far-righties and has never supported the far-right. So, these 'reliable' sources are not so reliable. MicholIsUsed (talk) 07:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid "here's my personal views on Andrew Tate and why he can't be associated with far-right figures" don't undo his documented associations with Tommy Robinson, Paul Joseph Watson, Jack Posobiec and other members of the far-right - all sourced in the article. On Wikipedia we go with what reliable sources say, not editor's personal analyses of the far-right. ser!(chat to me - see my edits)09:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just because he talked and agreed on some subjects with people having untraditional views, it doesn’t make him assosciated with the far-right, neither practically, nor in the general public. MicholIsUsed (talk) 10:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So what you're saying is just because he's associated with, agreed with, and promoted far-right ideologies, doesn't mean he's associated with the far-right? Reliable sources beg to differ on this, for good reason. [1][2][3][4]CNC (talk) 22:37, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As explained above this is about association with the far-right, not Tate's political views of being far-right. Even the right-leaning Telegraph see Tate has right-wing,[5], as does the left-leaning Independent.[6] I don't deny the content could be improved based on more recent sourcing, will work on that, but the content is very much verifiable. @FMSky Do you have any reliable sources that contradict Tate as being right-wing and associated with far-right ideologies, to add to the content? Some recent sourcing that's probably worth adding to the body for context sake as well: "While not explicitly far right, Tate’s messaging calls on the western “common man” to wake up, and he has shared far right propaganda, such as great replacement theory memes."[7]CNC (talk) 16:16, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In absence of reliable sources contradicting Tate being right-wing, associated with far-right ideologies and individuals, as well as promoting far-right propaganda, I've improved the sourcing and updated content. Thanks to all involved for motivating me to improve sourcing and update the content with the latest controversies, without you it wouldn't of happened :) CNC (talk) 22:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So last time I checked Tate was never described as far-right, but since the riots, he's achieved that description. Have therefore updated the body and the lead accordingly to reflect this new achievement based on multiple references describing Tate as both right-wing and far-right. As far as I can tell there is currently a balance between both descriptions based on RS, so this has otherwise been reflected. CNC (talk) 23:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I forgot that being against illegal mass immigration is considered being far-right / neo-nazi these days, so yes it makes sense now -- FMSky (talk) 02:25, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, we both know it's not why he's described as far-right now. Spreading misinformation online about the Southport suspect, namely that he is a Muslim and/or immigrant , will likely get you that label these days, when you're amplifying far-right propaganda for a bunch of fascists. Even if setting fire to hotels housing migrants might not be considered "extreme right-wing" for some, even the right-wing papers think it's a bit much and not a good look either. Also, once you start spreading the "great replacement" conspiracy theory, then you're mingling a bit too much with the white nationalists aren't you? CNC (talk) 09:28, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is everybody alright? Those are very opinionated and thats great we are all entitled to it . I donot think that this is the place for all the hate and personal issues.
"In June 2023, all four were charged with rape, human trafficking, and forming an organised crime group to sexually exploit women"...... Complete misinformation!! They were arrested yes charged NO especially not all 4 of them!! Even Wikipedia is fake news now 36.255.115.1 (talk) 07:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is this considered out of date, does he have less than 9.9 million followers now or something? It doesn't say he has 9.9m followers, but that he has amassed that many (past tense). Dating this achievement is nonsense. CNC (talk) 23:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bunnypranav (talk) 06:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Done Fixed the link. Cheers!