Talk:Evan Chandler

Molestation allegations.

I'm confused, how could Michael have molested him when Chandler is 14 years older than Michael? Bumblebritches57 (talk) 10:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Michael Jackson was accused of molesting his son, Jordan Chandler. -- Wgsimon (talk) 14:37, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I see, I read an article on some shitty site and they said his name instead of his sons, thanks for the info Bumblebritches57 (talk) 01:29, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

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Possible vandalism

In the infobox, under 'Other names', is listed 'The guy that accused Michael Jackson of molesting his son'. Is this vandalism? 'Accusing Michael Jackson of having molested his son' is already listed under 'Known for', so I'm not sure how necessary it is anyway. 64.134.171.243 (talk) 21:30, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Jude1313 Is Edit Warring with Unreliable sources

Jude1313 has come along and started edit warring with unreliable sources. Sources do not meet WP's guideline for unbias reliable sources Will be reverting content back to a previous more reliably sourced edit. TruthGuardians (talk) 16:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Despite being warned by two WP editors on User:Jude1313 User Talk Page, the user still continues to deface edits and add unapproved and undiscussed content by citing non-reliable sources and citing them improperly while being WP:FALSEBALANCE The user is also engaged in targeted harassment as they have defaced my Talk Page with Edit Warring warnings as an intimidation measure. They continue to ignore and not follow procedure found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring and here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources, all while breaking rules found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquette and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment. TruthGuardians (talk) 18:42, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

TruthGuardians THIS MATTER IS BEING REFERRED TO ARBITRATION - YOU ARE DELETING FULLY SOURCED EDITS & HARASSING A WIKIPEDIA USER. YOU ARE WARNED & WILL BE HEARING FROM ARBITRATORS. Jude1313 (talk) 20:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

TruthGuardians is engaged in vandalism, bullying, harassment, edit warring and disruptive editing

TruthGuardians has deleted my validly sourced edits IN FULL and engaged in targeted harassment and disruptive editing.

Despite being warned many times on User:TruthGuardians User Talk Page and my Jude1313 User Talk Page, TruthGuardians still continues to delete in entirety edits with no prior discussion breaching the disruptive edits rule. TruthGuardians is also engaged in targeted harassment and bullying as he (and other MJ fans) have defaced my Talk Page with abuse, ad-hominems (called me a "pedophile fantasist"), slander, defamation (for which I will be seeking address outside Wikipedia) and issued MANY Edit Warring warnings as an intimidation measure. He continues to ignore and not follow procedure found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring and here disruptive all while breaking rules found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquette and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment. I am seeking arbitration which will be filed tomorrow. Jude1313 (talk) 20:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Let us put into full context what was said. Here is a copy and paste from your Talk Page:

"Quite honestly, User:Jude1313, you come here to deface what User:Flyer 22 Reborn, myself, and others are attempting to balance ourselves. We don't agree on everything, but we do find some common ground. As stated, you have got to use credible sources. When one decides to move their tinfoil hat, they would conclude that if the big bad Michael Jackson Estate was paying editors to come to edit WP, things would be a lot rosier than they are. Let's take a look in the mirror before you start accusing people of getting paid to edit WP. You clearly said above that you have a youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NRowSJ6pSg&t=1s, one dedicated to proving, and fails at doing so, Jackson's guilt. The fact is that Jackson has an entire cult of pedophile fantasists who have dedicated their lives to convince others that he was guilty, recreating narratives that have no supporting facts or evidence in the process, and desires so badly that children have been abused even though due process was served. With unsubstantiated claims like "quote convict Anthony Pellicano's splicing of the tapes which was done to make Evan Chandler appear an extortionist - the full transcript shows otherwise," it's hard to tell you apart from the camp described above. Furthermore, you are wrong, the full transcript does not prove otherwise. It proves nothing. Extortion was on the table and will continue to be on the table. The Chandlers had a chance to prove otherwise, but they chose not to pursue a criminal trial when an opportunity for justice presented itself, TWICE and for a long period of time!"

So again, where did I call you specifically a pedophile fantasist? I didn't. Very much how you believe extortion is off the table when it is not, its all in your head. If you want your edits to be allowed, you are going to have to go about it like everyone else. Create a discussion on Talk Page about making the change, gain agreement with others to make the change, and most importantly, use credible sources. You have admitted that you are here to defend false accusers/victims. You aren't here to bring balance to what is already balanced. You even at one point, in a vain attempt to defend your talking points, said that Evan Chandler was fully investigated. Not true. A settlement stopped the extortion charges from moving forward. By your logic, Jackson was investigated for various reasons by countless law enforcement agencies, the FBI, child protection agencies, and even went through a trial that turned up nothing more than a full exoneration, so he's innocent based on that if your claims that Evan is because he was investigated. TruthGuardians (talk) 21:16, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Jude1313 is being completely erratic and fanatical. He refuses balance and keeps on pushing his POV. Israell (talk) 21:57, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 27 August 2023

Since the page that this redirect had been directed to, 1993 child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson, was also turned into a redirect on 19 August, I think the target page for this redirect should be changed to Child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson to cut down the intermediate step. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 01:24, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)