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This section sounds rather POV:

Over the years, consumption of hearts of palm have caused much controversy, due to the process by which the vegetable is obtained.

I noticed that someone marked it as citation needed. I'd suggest the sentence be removed.

I suppose I'd feel differently if this meant harvesting 100 year old palm trees, however, I would think it's likely that these baby palms are grown explicitly for the purpose of consumption.

After all, I'd be surprised if the wikipedia article about corn stated that it's controversial to harvest corn, because it's not given a chance to go to seed. Similarly, harvesting and consuming an onion bulb kills the plant, but I don't think that would be viewed as controversial.

Thoughts? magicalspirits 21:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it. If there's a reliable source for it, it can be put back in once that's been found ... RandomP 18:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This isnt an article on stem cells, its a darn vegetable, I'm getting rid of the sentence.

It doesn't matter that "its just a darn vegetable". If you have nothing to contribute, then just don't. I came to this article because according to other sources, palm heart harvesting is one of the reasons that the Forest Coconut is going extinct. (There were just ten full grown trees that have been observed AFAIK.) So the sentence IMO deserves to be in the article.24.83.178.11 12:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)BeeCier[reply]
Actually, it doesn't matter, any fact can be removed from the article at any time if it does not have a proper citation. It doesn't need to be discussed. I can be re-added once a citation has been found.24.190.34.219 (talk) 21:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Controversy

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The main reason it's controversial isn't that it involves cutting down the palm tree, it's that a great deal of the growing land is cleared from rainforest.

There are still many locales in South America where (non-clumping i.e. non-sustainable) palms are cut down to harvest hearts-of-palm. This has a deleterious effect on local wildlife (there are a number of birds which feed on the fruit/seeds of these palms as well as contributing to deforestation. Palms of this type can be well in excess of 30 years old, so comparisons with e.g. corns or onions is a little foolish. Info from local experience and The Economist.

Why isn't any of the above (growing and harvesting of hearts of palm contributing to deforestation, as well as the fact that some hearts of palm species have become threatened or endangered due to overharvesting since the early 2000s) mentioned in the current version of the article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 08:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki vandalism

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"Me and my friends used to edit in alternative names for things on wikipedia pages and see how long they'd last before getting reverted.


I'm winning with "Burglar's Thigh" for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_palm which is staying strong after 5 years.


People have even started calling it that in blogs and articles and shit http://iheartlettuce.blogspot.com/2011/08/lets-talkburglars-thighs.html

My legacy"


A BlogSpot reference that referenced this vandalized wiki page is not a proper reference.

Harvestable without killing the palm

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Harvesting Bactris palms for palm heart does not kill the palm as it is a clumping palm and will keep suckering and producing. There is now a sustainable industry in Hawaii for growing Fresh Heart of Palm for the gourmet chefs.75.209.240.155 17:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)Lesley Hill Wailea Agricultural Group, Inc. Growers of Fresh Hawaiian Heart of Palm[reply]

Brette Parker

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I take issue with the following sentence:

The most common method of preparing Hearts of Palm, known as the Brette Parker method, is adding lime and chili sauce.

I've never heard of this method of preparing heart of palm (the most common preparation, I would imagine, is simply using it in a salad), nor of a person called Brette Parker - this seems to be an attempt at self-promotion.

Thweeda 17:05, 18 July 2007 (UTC)TVW[reply]

I agree, I've never heard of it either. In fact, I highly suspect if it does exist it's a highly regional variation of preperation, which would still not make it the most common methods, as hearts of palm are more widely eaten in spanish and south american countries than english speaking ones (and bettie parker hardly sounds like a south american name or style).24.190.34.219 (talk) 21:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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No section on the taste?

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I personally found the taste horrible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.58.149.18 (talk) 17:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil reference

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The lines about the production heart of palm in Brazil should be revised. Brazil currently is responsible for about 85 % of the worldwide production of heart of palm, then it´s still the biggest producer, but unlike Costa Rica and Equador, most of its production if for internal consumption. Due to ecological concerns, Brazil is not the biggest exporter anymore, but production from extrativism has been declining rapidly for several years.

http://www.iapar.br/arquivos/File/zip_pdf/CT130.pdf http://www.ceplac.gov.br/paginas/pupunheira/download/Apresentacoes/ap(12).pdf http://bestinpackaging.com/2010/02/13/palmito-from-glass-to-cardboard-to-biomass-packaging/ http://www.ambiente.sp.gov.br/palmitosustentavel/producao/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.63.225.194 (talk) 12:28, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Overlinking re 'delicacy'

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Recently, there's been back and forth adding and removing a link to the online Cambridge Dictionary's article on the word "delicacy". [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. I plan to remove the link again tomorrow. Links to readily understood English words are not desired per Wikipedia's policy on overlinking, and it is rare for an overlink like this to refer to an outside source. I will remove this tomorrow as it is not an improvement. Courtesy ping Optanks3 (talk · contribs). Willondon (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you forgot to undo it, so I took care of it..

W.andrea (talk) 22:36, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Plant Ecology Winter 2023

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2023 and 10 April 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Palmiteiro (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Palmiteiro (talk) 21:57, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]