Talk:John Varvatos

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John Varvatos was the keynote speaker at the 2004 Allen Park High School graduation ceremony. I was in attendance for his speach, it was very inspiring.

Surname pronunciation?

How do you pronounce Varvatos? Not in Greek but in American English. How does John Varvatos pronounce it? Thanks. tharsaile (talk) 14:24, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Greek Version of Name

I've removed this Greek translation/transliteration from the intro paragraph:

 (Greek: Ιωάννης Βαρβάτος) 

And replaced it with a sentence later describing the Greek origin of the family name.

The use of Ιωάννης (Ioannes) in particular was problematic -- that's a culturally-equivalent translation into Greek from English, not his actual name (as far as I know). If the name on his birth certificate is Ioannes, then this should be mentioned.

If you want to Hellenize his real name instead of making one up for him, you'd have to spell out "John" in Modern Greek -- and with the Modern Greeks' love of phonetic rather than alphabetic transliteration, that would be the rather awkward Ν δ ι ά ν (Ndian).

In any case, he is an American, not a Greek. The linguistic origins of the family name are an interesting matter for a section on his family background only.

Regarding Varvatos ethnic background: "At the helm of a constantly growing, international menswear brand, Varvatos is a second-generation Greek whose family roots hark from Thessaloniki, Sparta and Athens. Moved by an invitation extended by the Hellenic Fashion Designers Association to show in Athens, his thoughts turned to his late parents and grandparents. “There’s definitely something with the culture,” said Varvatos. “I grew up in a Greek community in Detroit, and I think that there is a humility and a humbleness in terms of how I approach my company and how we design.”"[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.233.254.6 (talk) 05:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

If you want to Hellenize his real name instead of making one up for him, you'd have to spell out "John" in Modern Greek -- and with the Modern Greeks' love of phonetic rather than alphabetic transliteration, that would be the rather awkward Ν δ ι ά ν (Ndian).
What the hell are you talking about? The name John is written in Greek as Τζον (Tzon).
(By the way, the URL of the article referenced above has been changed to this.) --anon. 141.157.222.188 (talk) 18:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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First name / last name

Some sections call him by his last name, and other's by his first name.

I'd suggest using his last name. To use his first sounds both overly familiar and odd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.100.46 (talk) 08:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Thin Sourcing

The article includes a lot of information that's unsourced -- meaning it can be removed. The tone of the article is vaguely self-promotional as well.70.174.50.154 (talk) 15:01, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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The word ΒΑΡΒΑΤΟΣ is greek but it doesn't come from the island you mention. It is a word commonly used in Greece, so it would be good if you delete that part. If you mean that the origin of his last name, that is his family name was varvatos and his family comes from Kefalonia, then you could clearly state it. Thank you

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Person vs Brand and Missing Career Highlights

Three points here:

1. Philanthropy is focused on the brand, but the entry is written from the perspective of Varvatos as a person. Should be rewritten or moved to the company page. This should focus on Varvatos' personal charity.
2. Some of Varvatos' career, as an individual, is missing. No tequila, no Love Rocks
3. Same with the bankruptcy: it wasn't a personal bankruptcy; the company filed.

I'll work on it, but this all should be rewitten. --FeldBum (talk) 06:11, 28 May 2020 (UTC)