Talk:Leonard Kleinrock

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First Criminal Act on Internet

Len claims to be the first to have commited an illegal crime online when he asked for the return of an electric razor he left at a conference in London in 1973. Apparently it was illegal to use the internet for personal use back then. This is according to a history channel program Modern Marvels (Wired in America). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.227.218.23 (talk) 01:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The quote from the series is shown on screen as:

Len Kleinrock claims he committed the first illegal act on the Internet in 1973, when he made an online request for the return of his electric razor from a conference in England. At that time, personal use of the Internet was forbidden.

—"Wiring America". Modern Marvels. Season 12. Episode 47. August 31, 2005. History.

—MJBurrage^(T•C) 18:19, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well it was ARPAnet back then under the NCP protocol (not even yet under IP) and that was about a year before Bob Metcalfe published the word "internetworks". Certain DCA (Defense Communication Agency) generals occasionally frowned on that sort of thing. But Len is a real charmer. He could practically talk (prose or poetry) his way out of anything. Besides, Ivan Sutherland (a mere Lt.) would have winked at the general and let Len off, too. It was a pretty petty offense. Many of us didn't have serious justification to be on the net back then. 198.123.57.223 (talk) 19:21, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article on Leonard Kleinrock

Len is especially proud of the fact that his CCNY degree was earned at the "evening session"206.229.122.19 14:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Found actual thesis.

I found a link to his actual PhD thesis, and added that citation. He was actually analyzing Plan 55-A, a message switching system for Teletypes that used paper tape punches and readers for buffering. (Think Sendmail, with 1940s technology). --John Nagle (talk) 05:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not first packet switched network

The assertion on this page that Arpanet (1969) was the "world's first packet switched network" may contradict the biography entry for Donald Davies (q.v), who demonstrated the world's first packet switched network in 1968 at the UK National Physical Laboratory.

Afonka Bida (talk) 11:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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