Talk:Nicknames of New York City

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No mention of the actual name of the city?

The article opens with: "New York City has been known by a variety of nicknames, both officially and unofficially, now and in the past." However, there is not a _single_ mention of the actual official name of the city! In fact, from reading this article, one gets the impression that the official name is actually "New York City," which it is not! I mean, this is particularly awful: "New York City is frequently shortened to simply 'New York'" It's actually the other way around. "New York" is the name of the city and it's frequently expanded to "New York City" to differentiate it from the State of New York or by outsiders who simply don't know any better. Of course, how would they if sources like Wikipedia fail to inform them of this fact? This article needs a major rewrite!

Tomcres (talk) 12:25, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gotham

I've recently noticed a reference to "Gotham" from 1941 viz. the Marx Brothers' movie "The Big Store" (copyright date is 1941) which contains (at 1m17s) a sign for "Gotham Conservatory of Music". So it's likely that "Gotham" had currency before the Dec 1940 "Batman". Indeed, Google Books turns up many other early references, with no particular increase around 1940. So perhaps the phrasing should be revised, as the current text makes it sound that "Gotham" was uncommon between Washington Irving and Batman. DWorley (talk) 01:40, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]