Talk:Spanish peseta

Mexican origin

In the Spanish article of peseta we can not find anything about the other theory from the Mexican origin, moreover dimiutive of 'peso' might be 'pesito' (in masculine and with -it-). Pasqual's talk (ca) 18:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Peseta in Regional Language

The official name of the currency was the Peseta, not the Pesseta or the Pezeta. As such it is absurd to add additional names. Eboracum

The "currency_name_in_local" section does not specify wether the language is official in all the country, or parts of it. I suposse "in_local" refers to languages spoken by a significant percentage of the local population. Perpahs you might want to discuss this issue in Wikiproject Numismatics discussion?

As Catalan, Basque and galician are coofficial in some parts of Spain, It is not absurd to include the name of the currency in local languages.

However, it is true that coins and notes only showed peseta/pesetas. This does not mean everyone agreed with this practice. Even now with the euro, there is a campaign for the inclusion of cooffical languages in the spanish euro coins (http://www.om-plural.org/euro.html)

Thewikipedian 17:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I have reverted changes by Eboracum to the lass multilingual entry (catalan/Basque/galician). SeeSwiss Franc, were Romansch is official in some towns but not at federal level, yet the Romasch name appears in the infobox (franc svizzer (Romansh).). Thewikipedian 11:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

This is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics#Peseta as a rule in general, not specific to the Spanish peseta. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 13:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Origin of the name

According to the Real Academia Española peseta is the diminutive of peso, i.e. weight, consistent with several other names given to currency (e.g. pounds) due to historical reasons. The peso was in fact a silver coin used in Spain long before the peseta was introduced. No Mexican or Catalan origin is needed to explain the naming; quite probably the Mexican peso was named after the old Spanish peso, and the Catalan word is totally unrelated. Pablomme 22:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I added your explanation to the part about the Catalan word. I also cleaned up that bit about the video game, because it sounded gramatically awkward. -Kingurth 18:51, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

It might be etymological related to the "sub-unit" (lack of a better word) of the rupee used in several countries. For example, in India oen rupee is divided into 100 paise (singular paisa). Thoughts? Research? Someone else mentioned this on the Paisa page. 118.42.219.196 (talk) 15:03, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

The correct abreviation of the spanish's Peseta is Pta, not Pts, this error is frequently made also in Spain.

Why is the "catalan origin" still on this page? Is there any reference for that explanation? --Lost.in.translation (talk) 23:08, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Please. note that "etimologias de Chile" website is not authoritative, it is a contributive repository of old wives tales and common beliefs with contributors identified only by given name. It's not a valid reference, so please erase the Catalan origin of the peseta — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.44.133.213 (talk) 14:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Also note that the particle "eta" (like the French ette) is one the multiple diminutives suffixes in spanish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.44.133.213 (talk) 14:18, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:1peseta1998back.jpg

Image:1peseta1998back.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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Banknotes

Anyone know why there was a high turnover of designs from the 1920's to 50's ? Thanks Enlil Ninlil 05:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The 2000 pesetas bills weren´t rarely used. I used them more thn the 10000 ones. They were used just like the 5000 pesetas bills. As I said, they were frequently used. --87.218.70.206 (talk) 16:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

regarding the odd "footnote"

In the succession box after the external links section there is a {{ref}} template. This is causing that footnote right below the box in a very ugly spot. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make it look better? Or would anyone complain if we just got rid of the ref completely? --Rockfang (talk) 11:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Jacint Verdaguer on 500 pesetas

If you search Google images for "jacint verdaguer peseta" you will easily find a 500 banknote from 1971 that features the Catalan poet Jacint Verdaguer. Why isn't it mentioned in this article? Was it real legal tender or am i confused? --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you are right: there was a Jacinto Verdaguer 500 pts bill as a part of the last series of Francoist banknotes (hence the Spanish spelling of the author's name). Mountolive _{le déluge} 00:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

So can you please add it to the article?

Thanks in advance. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 21:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure how you want me to add it. Apparently not all authors and series are mentioned, only the most recent ones (not including 1971's)

Maybe you should add it yourself? Now that you refresh this topic, besides the images you mention, I found a good text source [1] Mountolive _{le déluge} 21:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Me neither :) I mostly wanted to be sure that it was a real banknote, so i could mention it in the article about Verdaguer that i wrote for the Hebrew Wikipedia. The Instituto Cervantes source that you gave now is certainly helpful.

Maybe i'll try to add it myself here. I don't anything about the history of the peseta, so i don't feel too confident. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 21:38, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

In the past

• 4 Cuartos = 1 Real
• 16 Maravedis = 1 Real
• 1 Escudo = 2 Reales
• 100 Centimos = 1 Real = 1 Escudo = 1 Peseta Böri (talk) 14:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

http://libro.uca.edu/lea1/append3.htm tells a lot.

Summarising:

• in 1503 the silver real was equal to 34 maravedís.
• The unit of weight was the marc, or half-pound, of 8 ounces or 4608 grains. The intermediate weights were the ochavo of 72 grains, the adarme of 36 and the tomín of 12.
• up to 1731, the marc of gold was reckoned to contain 50 castellanos of 8 tomines, making 4800 grains.
• In 1497 Ferdinand and Isabella ordered the marc to be worked into 65 1/3 excelentes de la granada. This coin was worth 374 maravedís and thus was practically the same as the ducat or escudo which was rated at 374. There were also the dobla alfonsi or castellano or peso de oro, equal to 485, the dobla de la banda to 365, the florin to 265. Thus the ducat, which was the coin most frequently quoted, was equivalent to 11 silver reales.
• In 1537 Charles V ordered coronas and escudos, 22 carats fine to be worked 68 to the marc and to be worth 330 maravedís.
• In 1686 came the doblon, or piece of 2 escudos. For larger transactions multiples of the escudo were struck, known as doblones de a dos, de a cuatro and de a ocho, containing respectively 2, 4 and 8 escudos. The latter, which became popularly known as the Spanish doubloon, were rated in 1726 at 18 pesos or pieces of eight silver reales.

John of Cromer in China (talk) mytime= Sat 11:18, wikitime= 03:19, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Actually there is a lot of info here. I wonder why this page is the redirect from Spanish coins. None of them has the tomín though, which is what I was looking for.

John of Cromer in China (talk) mytime= Sat 15:08, wikitime= 07:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Pegged currencies

I bring here a discussion started through comments in the article itself. According to a section in this article (Andorran peseta) and other corresponding articles (Equatorial Guinean peseta, Sahrawi peseta), the Spanish peseta was indeed pegged by these minor currencies, even though in some cases they were never actually minted.--Gorpik (talk) 15:21, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Needs review

I find many things wrong with this page:

• I find it shallow and inadequate;
• it has many bold assertions, but few references;
• its note does not strike me as a neutral point of view: it sounds very pro-Catalan, or at least anti-Castilian

I will be copying this note to the two interested project groups.

John of Cromer in China (talk) mytime= Mon 17:57, wikitime= 09:57, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Peseta which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 10:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Coin history in "Coins" section

Gold 25 pesetas coins were introduced in 1876, followed by 20 pesetas in 1878. In 1889, 20 pesetas coins were introduced, with production of the 25 pesetas ceasing.

This does not read well. I feel like what it means is something like: "A gold coin was introduced in 1876 worth 25 pesetas, with the exception of 1878 when 20 peseta pieces were minted. In 1889, the 20 peseta piece were fully introduced. The 25 peseta piece had fallen out of favour and production ceased."

Of course I can't be sure because i came here to learn and not to improve. Could someone with good knowledge of this please edit this passage in the article so that it is not ambiguous? 80.176.89.230 (talk) 09:24, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Move?

An editor recently performed a "copy and paste" move on this article. I have reverted this - primarily because it isn't normally the recommended move method - but also because there wouldn't seem to have been a move discussion or change in consensus from the previous discussion on the expected primary meaning/name for the currency article. Am opening this thread in case it is felt that a forum is required for such a move. (Though personally I'm not seeing a rationale for a move/change). Guliolopez (talk) 00:10, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Large sections of this article are copied and pasted directly from www.exchangerate.com with no citation.

Can you give more details? Additionally, are you sure that it is not the other way around?--Gorpik (talk) 08:08, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Image from this article to appear as POTD soon

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:1000 Spanish pesetas.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on 26 December 2018. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2018-12-26. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 22:27, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Picture of the day

The Spanish peseta is a former currency of Spain and, alongside the French franc, a former de facto currency in Andorra. It was introduced in 1868, replacing the peso, at a time when Spain was considering joining the Latin Monetary Union. Spain joined the euro in 1999, and the peseta was replaced by euro notes and coins in 2002.

This picture shows a 1000 peseta banknote from 1957. The obverse depicts the Catholic Monarchs while the reverse shows the coat of arms of Spain.Banknote: Bank of Spain