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I went ahead and changed the title of the work to The Broken Pitcher. This is the title used most frequently in the theatre when the work is actually performed in English. See for example [1] for the works Broadway premiere.Broadweighbabe (talk) 23:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it isn't. The Broken Jug is the most common form used in English translations, both for productions and in the vast majority of the secondary literature (see, for a start, that listed on the Kleist article). "Jug" is also more universal, as "Pitcher" is not commonly used in everyday life outside of the US. DionysosProteus (talk) 11:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree with DionysosProteus; in fact, yesterday I wrote a lengthy contribution here on the matter, and then my browser died and I decided not to re-post it, trusting that someone else would notice the strange move. I really wish these page moves, including this latest one, would be discussed on the talk pages first — apart from the merits of the name change there are technical aspects to be considered, e.g. links within the EN Wikipedia and from other languages.

To Broadweighbabe: If an editor believes a different title would be more appropriate, a REDIRECT will in my opinion be an adequate solution without causing unnecessary problems. Moving the article of an important work like this without discussing it on the talk page is not good etiquette. Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey guys don't bite me. Assume a little good faith. It's just, the only productions I've ever seen of the work in terms of live theatre have been titled The Broken Pitcher. Perhaps its just the US then that uses that title.Broadweighbabe (talk) 03:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to get into an edit war over this but I think a mention of the alternate title in the lead is warranted. After all, some readers like me will be more familiar with the other title. Its not hurting anything being there and it does help.Broadweighbabe (talk) 05:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe so, but when it's mentioned in the lead it should be removed from the citation; otherwise it starts to look odd. Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:The Broken Jug/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

==C Class== I rated this article C Class for Wikiproject Germany because it contains a good amount of information and references and is well sectioned. The context is provided but more expansion and references can be used to get this article to B Class. --Banime (talk) 13:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 13:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 08:01, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Here's a link to the engraving that inspired it

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Le_juge_ou_la_cruche_cass%C3%A9e.jpg 94.197.17.168 (talk) 11:15, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]