Template:Did you know nominations/D.Gray-man
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:08, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
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D.Gray-man
[edit]... that Katsura Hoshino visited Ground zero in New York City to search for influences for her manga D.Gray-man?Source: Hoshino, Katsura (July 4, 2011). CharaGray! (in Japanese). Shueisha. pp. 176–183. ISBN 978-4-08-870268-1.ALT1:... that New York City served as a major influence on the setting and plot of D.Gray-man?Source: Hoshino, Katsura (July 4, 2011). CharaGray! (in Japanese). Shueisha. pp. 176–183. ISBN 978-4-08-870268-1.
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Improved to Good Article status by Tintor2 (talk) and TenTonParasol (talk). Nominated by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) at 12:01, 8 December 2016 (UTC).
This is a newly promoted GA which was nominated in time and is plenty long enough. The original hook is acceptable with the facts being supported by inline citations, but have struck ALT1 as it mentions New York having a major influence on the setting and plot, a fact not mentioned in the article. The article is neutral and I did not find any significant close-paraphrasing in the sources I checked. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:13, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
This hook reminds me of the one we ran on November 10, 2016: ... that Katsura Hoshino says she comes up with most of the ideas for the manga series D.Gray-man after falling asleep in her bath?- Perhaps you could say something different about the manga? Yoninah (talk) 00:38, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: How about these:
- ALT2:
... that the character Millenium Earl from D.Gray-man has been compared to villains from the Batman franchise?Source: [1] - ALT3:
... that the plot of the second volume of the manga D.Gray-man was based on a Noh story?Source: Hoshino, Katsura (2006). D.Gray-man, Volume 2. Viz Media. p. 119. ISBN 1-4215-0624-6.
- ALT2:
- I haven't actually read the manga or watched any of the anime adaptations, so I'll leave it to Tintor2 to suggest other possible hooks, if necessary. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:54, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: How about these:
- Interesting but I think I reached my limit of DYKs (I think the number was 5). Shouldn't I do something else before being part of a DYK?Tintor2 (talk) 13:37, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Tintor2: There is no limit to how many DYKs you can have; however, if you have nominated more than five articles for DYK, you are required to review at least one other DYK nomination for every article you nominate (QPQ). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:04, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- But Narutolovehinata5 is the nominator here, and s/he has submitted a QPQ to go with this nomination, so no other QPQs are necessary. Tintor2 next time you nominate an article for DYK, you will have to submit a QPQ with it. Yoninah (talk) 14:06, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- How about something like:
- ALT4:
... that in D.Gray-man, the real reason why the main character Allen Walker abandons his home is because the author, Katsura Hoshino, wanted to draw less characters in the next story arc?Tintor2 (talk) 14:12, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- I don't know, but I think that proposed hook is too long to fit DYK's guidelines (you can read them). Also, when discussing fiction in DYK hooks, it's recommended that hooks should be about real-world facts about the topic, instead of in-universe information. As such, unfortunately, I think your proposed hook would not be allowed. Given that you are article's main contributor, you are free (and encouraged) to proposed more hooks, though. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Then pick one of the others or maybe:
- ALT5: ... that the character Komui Lee in the manga series D.Gray-man is based on the author's boss? Tintor2 (talk) 14:21, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- ALT4:
- How about something like:
- But Narutolovehinata5 is the nominator here, and s/he has submitted a QPQ to go with this nomination, so no other QPQs are necessary. Tintor2 next time you nominate an article for DYK, you will have to submit a QPQ with it. Yoninah (talk) 14:06, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Tintor2: There is no limit to how many DYKs you can have; however, if you have nominated more than five articles for DYK, you are required to review at least one other DYK nomination for every article you nominate (QPQ). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:04, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Interesting but I think I reached my limit of DYKs (I think the number was 5). Shouldn't I do something else before being part of a DYK?Tintor2 (talk) 13:37, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good one, although Yoninah raised above that another hook on the franchise involving Hoshino may be a bit of a stretch.
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:27, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 I'm not sure where you're coming up with these DYK rules; perhaps you should reread WP:DYK and WP:DYKSG. ALT4 is comfortably under 200 characters and definitely involves the real world; it's not just focused on the plot. ALT5 is also good. My problem with the original hook was more that it mirrored the earlier hook in style, focusing on what influenced the author. I'll review both of these shortly. Yoninah (talk) 16:33, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
