User talk:Trusilver/archive4

Jonathan King

Just a note regarding the use of warning templates in the content dispute on Jonathan King: templates such as Template:Uw-delete3 are not for the purposes of "winning" a content dispute; their function is to deal with potential vandalism. This appears to be a genuine editorial conflict about article content, not a simple case of someone trying to ruin the page (and that count for both sides). Moreover, this kind of disagreement ought to be dealt with on the talk page, not by revert and counter revert.

I'll be having a look to see whether anyone's gone over 3 reverts; this is the appropriate policy to invoke when there's evidence of an edit war. --Mark H Wilkinson ^{(t, c)} 08:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

In most circumstances I would agree with you. In this case however I was reverting the edits as vandalism based on the user in question going through the article and removing all of the reference citations. Trusilver 14:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Some of the edits over last night (GMT) were very clumsily handled, I grant you. Feelings are strong on both sides of this dispute (which has been going on for a while), making it a sometime difficult article to navigate. --Mark H Wilkinson ^{(t, c)} 14:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your support for my RFA! It passed and I'm looking forward to it --AW 17:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Mary Ramsey Wood

Is it OK for other users not involved in the mediation to comment on the mediation discussion? Katr67 17:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

There's not reason there wouldn't be. Remember that this is an informal mediation. We are less concerned with a concrete structure than we are with just finding a solution that is acceptable to all parties. If someone else can help to bring us to that point, more power to them. Trusilver 05:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, I was just concerned that someone was arguing with Aboutmovies about the points he made, when you had simply asked for our statements--it seemed disruptive of the process. I moved that section--I hope that's OK. Just to be clear, I think it's fine if others want to add their own statements (vs. arguments about other statements). If I'm wrong about that let me know and I'll move that section back into the mediation section. Katr67 14:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not problem at all. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm slow getting this going but I have had an incredibly busy week. I have a lot of time free tomorrow though. Trusilver 03:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandals...ugh

They are back at it in force tonight... I see you are helping to keep us busy at AIV tonight :). Jmlk17 05:43, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

There aren't a lot of them tonight, but the ones that have decided to grace us with their presence are persistant as hell. Trusilver 05:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

...bastards ;). Jmlk17 05:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

This one's on me

That last one I was on took some work but we stopped em cold. Keep it up! --BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 05:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Heh, thank you. Good working with you tonight :) Trusilver 05:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism warnings

Thanks for helping out with vandalism. I see your edits all the time and you're quite fast. However, I notice that you issue {{uw-vandalism3}} a little bit too much. For example, here. That should have been {{uw-vandalism1}} as it was a new account and was a single instance of vandalism. -- Gogo Dodo 08:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I feel in that case it was quite the technicality, considering that this newly created user was almost definitely the same as the anon user who had been vandalizing the same article a few moments earlier. Generally I assume good faith and treat it as a test edit, but sometimes you have to use common sense too. I attempt to use {{uw-vandalism1}} whenever it appears that the user is attempting to either test out the interface or even to test out the response time to vandalism. However, when it's quite obvious that the user is there for the sole purpose of being disruptive or has vandalized multiple articles, can you not see a certain level of futility in the charade of starting from {{uw-vandalism1}} for a user that it's already clear will not be dissuaded by it? (as the one in your example was not.)

I mean, blocks are supposed to be preventative rather than punative but at the same time I feel that it (and I respect any who disagree with me, but) borders on foolishness not to take the fastest route to limit the damage caused by a vandal who has demonstrated a clear lack of intent to contribute constructively. Also, I can cite about a dozen times in the last few days that I have been patiently waiting to issue a final warning when an admin simply blocked the user without reaching that level, not that I'm saying that's bad, they simply made a judgement call, as did I and I think it was the right one.

Heh, sorry for talking your ear off about it but this is a case where I feel that it's important to allow common sense to preempt process. Trusilver 08:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't particularly want to argue with you about procedures and the like. I'm not saying you have to follow procedure to the letter issuing warnings sequentially as I will sometimes jump levels from time to time. My comment to you was just a suggestion as I think sometimes you are issuing too strong of a warning. Were those two related? Maybe, maybe not. I've seen cases where it is the same person, yet other times it is two friends tag-teaming things. Either way, the problem stopped, so I suppose that is all that matters. =) -- Gogo Dodo 06:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

thanks

hey I appreciate you responding, sorry for the trouble! - kevinbocking 18:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, no problem! I hope everything has been taken care of for you. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but it appears you are up and running again. Have a good day. Trusilver 18:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

An enquiry

Hey Trusilver; I'd like to nominate you for Administrator-ship, should you so wish. I believe you're ready for the tools ~ Anthøny 18:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your offer but I would like to get the okay from my admin coach first. I've sent you an email. :) Trusilver 18:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied ;) Cheers, Anthøny 18:48, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Rfa

Hey buddy. I am ready to get your Rfa underway, and talked to Riana. She would like to co-nom you as well. Just one thing... let's put it off for just a couple of days if that is alright, so I can get all my crap organized at my new place. How does Monday or Tuesday sound? Let me know :). Jmlk17 05:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

It works out better for me too. I'm still neck deep in my sandbox working on Cirque du Soleil. I will have finished this article by Monday and I'd rather be able to approach my RfA with that off of my plate. Trusilver 05:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey. I'm moved in to my new place, but am without regular internet until tomorrow, Tuesday. Let me organize my thoughts here overnight, and get this done tomorrow. :) Jmlk17 03:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment

Thank you for your comment on my RfA, which was successful. Lyrl^Talk _C 00:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Congratulations. Trusilver 01:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Mary Ramsey Wood

Thanks very much for mediating the case--you're a good mediator. Unfortunately I'm not able to watch the article anymore. It's not good for my blood pressure. Take care and good luck with your Rfa! Katr67 13:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll keep my eye on it, but I don't think it's really going to cause me any grief. All parties seem comfortable with the compromise and I'm not expecting any further issues. It's been good working with you. Trusilver 06:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Copy Edit Request

I saw your name on the list of WikiProject League of Copyeditors/proofreading and was wondering if you wouldn't mind improving the prose of the article [Hayley Westenra]. In a GAC review the reviewer found the the "well written" requirement was a bit lacking on the article placed the article's promotion on hold and suggested coming one the editors of the WikiProject League of Copyeditors/proofreading list and ask for assistance. If you do not have the time can you point me in the right direction? Andrew D White 20:04, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone else from the project has copyedited the article now. Thank you. Andrew D White 16:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't get a chance to respond more quickly, I've been busy lately. Have a good day! Trusilver 07:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Trusilver

Thought I'd post {{RfA-nom}} for all three nominators to show just how much we all want you to be an Administrator :) the page is awaiting your acceptance or denial ... please don't give the old "I humbly accept" nonsense ;-) Cheers, Anthøny 18:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Humbly? Never! :)

I've already been there, answered the questions and accepted. Thank you. Trusilver 06:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Transclude it on the main page then already, jeez :) ~ Riana ⁂ 16:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

 Done :) best of luck, mate. Anthøny 17:21, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Margaret Ann Montgomery Bailey

Margaret Ann Montgomery Bailey is copied word for word from [1]. I didnt just blank the page, I put it up for speedy deletion. Loopla 15:00, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. Look at your talk page :) Trusilver 15:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks For The Revert

Not sure who that was, I'm guessing someone's sock. Quite odd. Anyways, thanks. :) -WarthogDemon 22:12, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Heh, no problem. He got me too and I have no idea why. Trusilver 23:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Your attitude

However, if you insist on being abusive and insulting, we will go down this path

No, I insist on being truthful and forthright: you, however, insist on being untruthful and, when called on it, evasive. A little honesty might serve you in good stead. --61.45.36.159 03:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Very good, you managed to make a comment that mostly didn't involve a personal attack. That's close enough for me. Now, what can I do for you? Trusilver 03:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Er, What Is Going On?

I'm not sure if this was a personal attack on you from an IP but I reverted it... -WarthogDemon 04:06, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, Some guy that got snippy because we disagree on the application of G11 toward userspace pages. He has taken every opportunity since then to make personal attacks. He will probably continue until he gets blocked, but that's his problem and not mine. Thanks :) Trusilver 04:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Welcome back

The trip to South Korea was really nice. I even made some edits at my relatives' house as well. NHRHS2010 ^Talk 01:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Your RFA comments

I am only going to respond to this once. I removed a tag from this user because I feel he has misapplied G11 (and just because he's gotten away with it in the past doesn't mean he was correct in doing so

Guy, spam disguised as user pages is deleted all the time. This batch here is selected from the last few months. This is just common sense. --Calton | Talk 20:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm happy for you. But much like I told your friend (repeatedly, without any obvious result), is that it wasn't his message I was attacking, it was his obnoxious behavior. Tell me, are you saying that you feel that the policy of taking a contested CSD to discussion is wrong? Removing content from a page which is in violation of policy is preferable to deletion of a page. Trusilver 20:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Copy-edit graph

Thanks for your welcome.

Please could you take a look at the question below which I posted to Category talk:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit a couple of weeks ago:

The graph is wrong

It shows 2100 articles needing copy-editing and then 500 for Jan, 150 for Feb etc, making a total of 4096 to do. But the 2100 is itself the total for all articles ie Jan to now, so we're counting them twice ! (There are only 2100 to do altogether, made up of 500 for Jan, 150 for Feb etc) I think I'm right ! thisisace 23:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

thisisace 17:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. I've been trying to recruit someone to clean up the project pages because I have been having a very hard time finding a large enough block of time to do it myself. Trusilver 20:28, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks. Do you know anyone who can fix the graph ? thisisace 23:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

• Now I've realised it's not an automatically-updated one, I've worked out how to do it and done it ! thisisace 23:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Macgregor State High

Dear Trusilver. I am abit lost but a student of Macgregor State High keeps attempting to remove the verified gang section as it is "harming" their image, what can be done about this? The article is "Macgregor State High". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:OSOverclocker Thanks OSOverclocker 06:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I dunno how I missed that reply of yours...

But I just saw the reply you left. lol. Yes, verbosity is my natural gift. Or, as Monk would say, It's a gift... and a curse...". lol. The thing is, I honestly just wanted to illustrate how excellently you'd do as admin, and the only way to do that was to discuss it. It seems the only time truly lengthy discussions get going are with oppose votes (or sometimes neutral) and I felt you deserved it. You're an excellent editor and you'll be an excellent Admin. And, while I'm here, Congratulations Trusilver!!! And, I hope I didn't offend you by calling you a "He" if you're a girl like me, lol. Anyway, sorry for my verbosity, but if it gives the person closing it valid information, then it is worth it to me to "ramble on". ^Ariel♥Gold 08:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Your RfA was successful!

Congratulations, your RfA was successful and you are now a sysop! If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. Good luck! --Deskana (banana) 17:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!! Happy mopping :) Eliz81^{(talk)(contribs)} 18:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Well done, mate! Use the mop wisely ;) Kind regards, Anthøny ん 18:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Trusilver! :) A great turnout and a positive outcome. Take it easy at the start and feel free to ask me all the questions you need to, I'll try my best to answer (or bump them off to Anthony or Jmlk ;) ) Good luck!! ~ Riana ⁂ 18:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For daring to enter the hellish pit that is Request for Adminship, and with somebody as completely clueless as myself and Riana as nominators :) and for coming out at the other end with your head held high, and with some shiny new tools, I, AGK, award you, Trusilver, the Original and Best Barnstar! Anthøny ん

I'm joking, Riana :) Well done, mate - you deserve it! Anthøny ん 19:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on joining the sysop team! *hands you a mop and bucket*¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 19:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! Politics rule 20:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Congrats from me as well! :) While I didn't mention it on your rfa page, double kudos on your confirming that hoax on afd. =) I hope at some point I'll be able to go the extra mile on things like you can. Happy editing! -WarthogDemon 22:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! I hope I was able to help in some way being your coach. Use the tools wisely, and I do hope to stay in contact with you! But for now, get to work!!! :) Jmlk17 22:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Congrats...now get to work! --Hirohisat ^Talk 00:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to all of you. I was really hoping to get fifty or sixty supports, imagine my surprise that I received about thirty more than that. I appreciate all the hard work my nominators went to to get here. More when I get home in a few hours :) Trusilver 01:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations again, Trusilver! Ariel♥Gold

^Ariel♥Gold 01:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I was a bit late at the RfA, but I wanted to say congrats! I know you'll be a great admin. GlassCobra 17:23, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

~*Whistles innocently*~

^Ariel♥Gold 03:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hooray!

That's great that you became an admin recently! Congratulations!

Also, I plan to run in a few weeks myself! Cheers, JetLover ^(talk) 22:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

South Tibet issue

He or she blanked the page and redirect to a unrelated one.Can you find any mention of such behavior don't appear in the what vandalism is not" at WP:VANDAL.Show me the policy please.--Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 23:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

You are having a content dispute as is obvious from the article's talk page. Attempting to characterize this as vandalism is disingenuous and counterproductive. I suggest you take your dispute to discussion or mediation. Taking good faith edits you disagree with to WP:AIV is not going to fix the issue. Trusilver 23:37, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Accusations

If you actually read the page in question, you'd realize it is not vandalism, but valid contributions to the Episode summaries. Wikipedia is a worse place due to illiterate demagogues with no sense of humor, such as yourself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by THE NOIVE (talk • contribs) 00:14, August 24, 2007 (UTC).

You mean valid contributions like this one whereupon you changed Bob Dylan's name to Bob Shithead? Sorry, I think Wikipedia functions just fine without your "sense of humor" Trusilver 01:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on being an admin. NHRHS2010 ^Talk 03:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

PS: I made my 7000th edit yesterday. NHRHS2010 ^Talk 21:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, good job, I'm glad to hear it. Keep it up and your RfA is going to be coming before too much longer :) Trusilver 21:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

When do you think is the best time for me to be nominated for RfA? NHRHS2010 ^Talk 23:31, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

PS: I just got your email now. How close am I to being an admin? NHRHS2010 ^Talk 00:30, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

RfA

Hi! - I am glad that you became a new admin - and for the courteousness of replying to me, which so many don't, I appreciate that and will award you a barnstar later, but I just have something to do. See you in a barnstar, Regards. Onnaghar ^{tl | co} 10:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

		The Surreal Barnstar
		As promised here you go, you're a great editor and full of kindness. I appreciate your helpness towards others and I'm glad you got the mop. Well done. Onnaghar tl

Congrats re: RfA

I'm glad you ended up getting the mop; I also appreciate you taking the time to leave comments for those who participated in the process. Whether on a successful or failed RfA, it's a consideration very few candidates have. Best of lucks! Roadmr (t|c) 14:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Non-shared IP vandal

Just something to consider regarding 69.27.73.151 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). It is clearly a pretty static IP address since every edit from it has been to the exact same page for over a week. In such cases, I'll often hard-block for an extended period of time since the possibility of collateral damage is very low. I'll leave it up to you and not even check on your decision - just wanted to plant the seed.  :) —Wknight94 (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't even notice that you were brand new to the sysop thing. (I don't pay attention to WP:RFA too often). Congratulations! Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions, etc. —Wknight94 (talk) 20:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely, thank you for your help. Trusilver 21:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

IP vandal

The IP vandal 71.35.158.203 (talk · contribs) is a sock of a permanently banned user User:Jetwave Dave. Perhaps the better option would be to indef block the IP, along with these other socks: 168.103.149.181 (talk · contribs), 63.226.202.34 (talk · contribs), and 70.58.66.191 (talk · contribs). Parsecboy 18:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I just noticed that. It seems that you have made a friend. Trusilver 18:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, isn't it great? He's even taken the time to create an impostor Wiki account User:Parasecboy, which was also blocked, and even an impostor email account, with which he sent me several emails before I added him to my spam filter. Parsecboy 18:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

It would be fantastic if his IP addresses were all in the same range. Have you make a sockpuppet report yet? Trusilver 18:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Trabuco Hills High School

It's probably time to semi-protect the article against the vandal who thinks the assistant band director is "the fathead"; I was going to just out-wait the fathead-hater, but they seem determined.

And, by the way, congratulations on your mop & bucket! Acroterion _(talk) 18:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I just loooooove high school articles for that very reason. They attract more hostility and angst than any ten myspace pages in existance. Trusilver 18:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I can trace a couple of death threats back to reverts on high school articles. At least "fathead" is more civil than the IP/sock above. Acroterion _(talk) 18:53, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Reminder

Hola Mentors!

Im sending you this reminder because you volunteered to mentor my students in English Advanced B as they become contributing members of the Wikipedia community. We start working with Wikipedia in earnest next week. I ask you to take a look at your entry in the Mentor Table at Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Mentors

Please update the information, esp. with what your technical and informational expertise is or, if you have decided that you no longer want to participate, please remove your information from the table. Please watch the pages associated with the project. Students will contact you via your user page and as soon as my students have user pages, I will put them on the navigation bar associated with the project.

I don’t need to remind you that your job is NOT to write their assignments for them, of course. I certainly will tell my students that… and the fact that you are volunteers that don’t have to help them… so they need to be nice. If any students misbehave (tho I don’t expect it) don’t hesistate to contact me and I will take care of it. The goal of this project is to integrate successfully into the Wikipedia community. Anyway… what I really need your help with is helping students get oriented to Wikipedia, make appropriate changes and write about appropriate topics (see Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Syllabus for assignments). I also need your technical expertise… I am only an English teacher after all! I appreciate what technology does for us but I am no technical expert!

Again, thank you for volunteering and you will hear from us again soon! Thelmadatter 19:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Thelmadatter

sign languages on Wiktionary

Hi! We're having an issue over at English Wiktionary. As you may know, Wiktionary is a dictionary with entries in many languages; English-language entries list translations. We want to add sign languages' signs among those translations (this has been done with ASL for one and two as trials). We seek input on the best way to do so; also, if the best way is by uploading videos (or, for some signs, still photos), we need models. While I certainly won't presume to ask for your time modeling or uploading (on a project you don't even use!), your advice as someone who knows ASL and WP would be valuable and appreciated. Discussion is ongoing at wikt:Wiktionary:Beer_parlour#sign_languages.2C_revisited. Thanks much!—msh210℠ 18:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyedit request for Biman Bangladesh Airlines

Hi, I noticed that you assisted with the copyedit of Bengali Language Movement and was wondering if you'd have some time to do a copyedit of Biman Bangladesh Airlines? It is currently a GA article and I have expanded it and hope to submit it as an FAC. It's listed in the requests page if you'd like to take it on. Many thanks and apologies for the unsolicited message. → AA ^(talk) — 20:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

7500 edits

I just made my 7500th edit today. NHRHS2010 ^Talk 01:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hummer vandalism reversion

Hello, I just noticed that as I was patrolling for vandalism you happened to revert it before I got the chance to. I checked out the talk page to see if you finished the job, and like most editors don't, you completed it from start to finish. I just wanted to thank you and to keep up the good work!
-- Python (Talk to me!) 02:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Trusilver 02:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of M3campbe

This user was involved in vandalism and was blocked.[2] [3] You deleted his user page which contained warning. He was trying to remove these warning. Any reason for the deletion? --statsone 12:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was deleting under the impression that this user had an indefinite block. After rereading it, I see it's only 24 hours. I've restored the talk page. Trusilver 15:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks --statsone 19:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Awards

So what do I have to do to get all those stars and rewards like you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kskk2 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

User:UkraineToday

Hi there; I notice that you just blocked [[User] who has been engaged in an edit war with this user, which I was in process of analysing. Are you certain that only one is at fault? Your call. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 21:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The user name is an impersonation of a current user. It is newly registered and has been engaged in a president attack on the content of the main article. I request that the user name be deleted and an investigation undertaken into the ip address used. UkraineToday 21:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There are proper channels to go through for suspected sock puppetry, and I am not sure you realize how serious an accusation that is. Also, the username does not need to be "deleted", as it is not a username violation (usernames in violation aren't deleted, they're simply blocked). This was explained to you at WP:RFCN. I would really suggest that you take your concerns about the article in question to the article's talk page (without removing anyone Else's comments, they have a right to express their opinions, just as you do), to avoid future edit wars, and remember the WP:OWN policy as well. Thanks! (Sorry for butting in here, TS) ^Ariel♥Gold 21:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you look at the history page of the user socketpuppert. This is an account seeking to impersonate another user. it was created yesterday 31/8/2007 You should also look at the content of teh submission made. All reversals made by me are an act of good faith to revert the vandalism attacks made on the main article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UkraineToday (talk • contribs) 21:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I changed his block from indefinite to 31 hours. At the time I blocked him he was engaged in disruptive editing. Anthony and Ariel Gold are quite correct though. Despite the fact that UkraineToday does stay with the rules, I'm not terribly impressed with his behavior either. Truesilver 22:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

|| This person creates a user id impersonating someone and proceeds to vandalize the article and you blame the person trying to prevent it. lol lol. The users account was created in teh last 24 hours. It is a fake user name designed to impersonate someone else. They persistently remove contact and past unsubstanciated political slogans and you give them the benefit of doubt lollo lo Sorry but you should think again... if you provide me with a more confidential contact I will provide more information. Did you check the IP address...  ??

If you feel that there is a legitimate suspicion of sock puppetry, I suggest you file a checkuser report on him. I did not issue a block to Craat for sockpuppetry, I did it for disruptive posting. I would not block someone on suspicion of abusive sock puppetry unless there was monumentally compelling evidence of it. Trusilver

23:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)  ::: I eill lodeg a reprot and think you should look again if you are in any dounbt. I have provided you with information that backs up the claim which would be obvious to anyone or serisous reviews these matters. I think you should revue the case again. if you do not have the authority to undertake a proper investigation and report then please advise via email who does? UkraineToday 17:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Only certain users have checkuser access. This is why you need to create a checkuser report as a first step to proving that sockpuppetry is going on. After that has been verified, we can pursue the issue more fully. Trusilver 17:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

In all fairness...

I'm surprised that Special:Contributions/Ukraine Today didn't get blocked. Over 30 reversions to Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2007‎ and reversions to Talk:Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2007‎ in 24 hours, not to mention re-factoring someone Else's talk page comments (in this case, removing them) is really not a good thing, is it? The entire article seems to have some serious issues going on, and possibly some WP:OWN issues with regards to UkraineToday. Some of the other editor's contributions seemed to be aimed towards removing bias, and while his methods may have been wrong, UkraineToday's were really no better, he continued warring for hours. If I'm out of line, I sincerely apologize, but this seems quite lopsided. (And you know I adore you, so I hope you don't take this wrong )^Ariel♥Gold 21:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

P.S. UkraineToday's allegations of sock puppetry towards the other user, and his slapping the tag on the user's page, seem to me, to be pretty hasty, and it seems someone may want to discuss with him the proper channels to go through with regards to such serious allegations? ^Ariel♥Gold 21:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but the users account is newly created and they have been persistently vandalising teh content of the main article. refer to user content. Users account if a fake id impersonation. A complaint has been forwarded to Wiki Administrators. All edits made by myself have been in good faith to revert the attacks made. UkraineToday 21:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Additional information and evidence emailed of sockpuppet to administrators. The vandalism attack is part of an orchestrated campaign by supporters of the president's political position. The attack included attempts to change direct quotation from PACE representatives as published in the PACE report. All published comments on the main article are historical facts backed up by citations and referrals. Those alleging bias have been asked to outline their specific concerns and have failed to do so. UkraineToday 02:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Evidence is clearly available that the offending user is a sockpuppet. It was recently created and designed to vandalise the main article. Please email me to confirm details. UkraineToday 17:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Legitimate users who wish to make a positive contributions are more then welcomed but those that falsely claim bias in reported in historical facts should 1.) Not act in bad faith and malicously vandalise information that has been published in good faith, 2. They should also outline exactly in detail which aspects of teh publication they have object to and why? I think you will find that the unidentified person who hides behind a sockpuppet id in order to vandalise the content of the pages is simply opposed to the facts that are not to his political liking. Did you review the IP address of the fake user? UkraineToday 17:38, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply

Cheers,JetLover has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
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Thanks for the Bstar! Cheers,JetLover 03:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Mexican American article

Why have you reverted the changes I made to the Mexican American article? You have added incaccurate information which also happens to be badly written. As, I pointed out before Mexican immigrants were not allowed to become citizens upon arrival, the rest of the sentence makes no sense at all. "they could vote and hold elected office in places such as Texas, especially San Antonio" How can someone especially vote in San Antonio? My changes should remain: "Mexican Americans could legally vote in the United States and hold elected office." ChessComputer 08:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

reverted Chicano Nationalism edit, see talk page. Be sure to use edit summaries when making substantive changes. Trusilver 15:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

This is flight BG2007, calling the tower for help

This is me calling in from the days when you were making wonderful contributions to take the article Bengali Language Movement to FA status, and I was at the sidelines appreciating you. Now the article Biman Bangladesh Airlines is in need for your help. It is almost ready for an FAC, but the current Bangladesh lot still doesn't have a good copyeditor. Preston McConkie is helping out. But, it needs you. Please... pretty please... If you need to ask any question, or want someone to do a bit of research, I promise to help with everything I have. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. I will go over and take a look at it today. Trusilver 18:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

A user that you blocked today has admitted to being a sockpuppet

User:121.222.253.116 has admitted here[4] that he is an account made to evade a block.He also says "if they block me again there's always proxies", meaning that he may have another puppet out now that this account is blocked. I don't know where to report this to since I don't know what puppetmaster account he used, so I figured you might be familiar with him, and able to help.Hoponpop69 19:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

What's the process to contribute to your mediation process?

I see that you're mediating a dispute about the definition of "computer program." I have relevant professional expertise and would like to contribute citations to relevant comments from acknowledged experts. Is my next step to provide that information here, or should I edit the discussion section of the mediation page? VisitorTalk 04:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Question

Am i allowed to remove vandalism warnings, copyright image notices, etc, from my user talk page? User:Yamakiri user has threatened to permanently protect my user talk page so that i cant edit it. Can i remove copyright image notices at least? i hope you see this soon. thx Modelun88 00:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting of tired of going behind him... Anyways, he's removed block notices, and I'm not an admin so I just requested that his page be protected and that he get a block. P.S. he's copied and pasted this on quite a few pages now.Yamakiri 00:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Secret Page

		Destructo 087's Hidden Page
		Well done finding Destructo's Hidden Page--Destructo 087 22:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Here you go. Im sorry about bieng so late but I have been busy with other things.--Destructo^{Talk to me} 03:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Heya

You've seem to of disappeared... hope this isn't permanent! :) Jmlk17 08:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

hi, dear Trusilver. How are you? Having fun with Airplanes? I came to tell you that I have a broadband now. And here's my first assignment with it. Hope you are alright. It's always good to hear from you, so please keep in touch. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 14:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)