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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 16:50, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ATOM Records

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NN record label, possibly defunct. Endorsed prod removed by article creator. MSJapan (talk) 02:57, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 03:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 03:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 03:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Notice ATOM Records has one chart-ranking with Cornerstone and noteable musicans Jon Butcher (three albums in the Billboard 200, several singles in various charts) and Leland Sklar in it's rooster, one of the most prominent Bass-players in the music-business. MSJapan, by clicking this blue underlined words on every WP page, you'll redirected to the related pages, where you can check out all of the facts. I'm sorry that you're obviously not know that, but absolutely no problem to help out :-) User:Morrissey1976 (talk) 12:02, 12 August 2015 (CET+1)


Strong oppose MSJapan tagged the page Cornerstone for proposed deletion over and over again, altough reliable third party sources were delivered and refered to. MSJapan wants to remove the page plus related pages, because he personally hates the band and construct and invite reasons to do so, which has nothing to do with the reality or the facts. Simply ignores third party sources. I’ve already contacted Wikipedia in reagrds of this, block of IP requested because of vandalism. Talking ‘but the band page in accordance to WP: band:
“1.Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.”
Fullfilled. I have refered to two example sources (Classic Rock (magazine) and Powerplay Magazine), I don’t want to start refering to hundreds of reviews and interviews regarding the band. [1]
“2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart”.
Fullfilled. It doesn’t matter, if for one week or hundred weeks. [2]
“4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.”
Fullfilled. Countless medias reported about the band’s USA-Tour and their several UK-Tours.[3]. I refered to one example source (Dayton Daily News). Again, I don’t start uploading and refer to hundreds of sources, because one guy hates the band
“10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. “
Fullfilled. Delivered two songs to the soundtrack “Little Alien”, which won multiple awards. Check out the films WP or the films Website.
“11.Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.”
Fullfilled. Rotation on national Austrian Radios Hitradio Ö3[4] and “Radio Wien[5] Example playlists delivered and refered, too.
Regarding the other topics: Requested movements of Cornerstone dab page and Cornerstone happened because of logical point of views and an easier search modus for the several meanings of the term Cornerstone. Probably user is also an SPA for the "Cornerstone dab page” and “Cornerstone” (haven’t checked out yet). The band played the mainstages at all of the Festivals that was mentioned, as cleary is viewable at the refered Flyers and several videos in the Internet. Btw., MSJapan, “Fireworks” and “Powerplay” are “two of the biggest rock’zines in the UK, not “the biggest”. Learn to read, or in case you can’t, tell me, so I’ll read it aloud for you. Let me add, that there should be no place on WP for personal grief and personal tastes.

References

  1. ^ Rich Wilson. "Bon Roxette, anyone?" (PDF). Classic Rock, Issue 05/2011, UK. Retrieved 2015-08-11.
  2. ^ http://austriancharts.at/showitem.asp?interpret=Cornerstone&titel=Smalltown+Boy&cat=s
  3. ^ Donald Trasher. "Austrian band teams up with Dayton record label". Dayton Daily News, US. Retrieved 2015-08-11.
  4. ^ "Eberhard Forcher's Friday Night" (PDF). Hitradio Ö3.
  5. ^ "Heimat bist Du großer Töne" (PDF). Radio Wien, Austria. Retrieved 2015-08-11.

User:Morrissey1976 (talk) 09:38, 12 August 2015 (CET+1)

  • Reply: Then you shouldn't prod articles in retaliation. Also, label notability is different than that of the band. Therefore, citing the band meeting criteria does not address the label. ATOM isn't notable because they distributed a single that charted, especially when it is very likely the single charted because it was for charity. Nothing else Cornerstone released on ATOM ever charted at all. That's why I find it interesting that a cover charity single is the only thing that did. A label is also not notable because an artist on their label charted somewhere else. The reason you find this to be a problem is because you are trying to establish notability for four distinct things using the same sources, and you can't do that. MSJapan (talk) 18:06, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Morrissey1976 as an editor who created this and other articles with an undisclosed COI (I do appreciate you finally disclosing it, btw) in an effort to promote Cornerstone, its label, and its single in Wikipedia, you are not objective with regard to this content, and taking a combative tone is not helpful to you. Jytdog (talk) 23:30, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 Talk 13:40, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 23:00, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete. It may be that a few artists notable enough for articles have released on this label but none of them seem to have a long term relationship with it, so I can't see how it hopes to inherit their notability as it has not released any of their more notable recordings. I don't see any albums on this label with articles. The search results are not encouraging in the least. The points made above by the promoter of Cornerstone are mostly unconvincing although the point about having released records that appeared in recognised charts could be persuasive if any evidence was offered for this beyond the one Cornerstone single scraping the edge of the Austrian singles chart. --DanielRigal (talk) 00:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per nom, fails WP:GNG, WP:CORP. Onel5969 TT me 13:46, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - As stated above, the organization just isn't really notable. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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