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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Black Kite (t) (c) 00:49, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Other than youtube, ghits is very sparse. Fails WP:N and WP:V. jsfouche ☽☾Talk 16:58, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Day has several news pieces that cover him in-depth:
- this piece from Huffington Post on WalMart
- this piece from Asylum.uk, also about WalMart
- Alex Day is a speaker at VidCon 2011, and has biographical info here
- An interview with Day by UltimateGuitar.com
- This piece from The Sun is more about his band, but Day's is quoted multiple times about his reflections on the band I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete: I would have CSD'd this had I seen it, as I have done at Nerimon. Alex Day had to be protected because people keep creating an article on him despite a complete absence of evidence of notability. None of the above links make any sort of difference with regards to this. Note: I have created the previous AfD box at the top of the page. These are well worth a look, especially WP:AfD/Alex Day, because that was quite an impressive article but simply did not prove notability. This problem remains. Day fails N and V. —Half Price 16:28, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Day is surely notable for his achievements in numbers of viewership & subscribers?
- (Quote from the article: As of July 2011, his YouTube channel was the Most Subscribed UK channel of all time, in the 'Comedian' category. ) [[|DefenselessPony]]User talk:DefenselessPony 16:50, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete What makes Asylum reliable? The Sun reference is more about the band, rather than him, and I'm not entirely convinced by the VidCon reference, since he's obviously mates with the guys who put it on. I must confess that I'm not familiar with Ultimate Guitar, but if (as its article suggests) it's a community-driven website, then does it still have the same editorial oversight and fact-checking that we require from reliable sources? And, if not, then what makes it reliable? His subscriber count isn't totally relevant, per WP:BIGNUMBER. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 17:16, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Per nom, sparse G-hits, fails WP:V and WP:N. articles about this person have been created so many times, should they be WP:SALTed? 109.204.113.111 (talk) 14:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 15:36, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This article's subject is (I think) no more notable that that of the Vlogbrothers page, whose notability was agreed on. Day seems to have had a wide effect in his specific field, as well as coverage in mainstream media (such as worldwide music charts, and news outlets). In my opinion, the subject is notable. 18:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheese453 (talk • contribs)
- Continuing the above statement; in addition to the initial links from I, Jethrobot, there are also pieces from
- The London Paper
- this BBC News article
- The Telegraph, and
- The Guardian (: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheese453 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, while those are all reliable sources, I'm pretty sure that they all featured as part of the previous Alex Day article written by Wmoran9550, and they were all discussed at length during its AfD. The consensus from that discussion was that they only contained the briefest of mentions of Alex and that it would be pretty difficult to verify a lot of even the most basic things in the article. Whether or not things have changed since then, I really can't say. VoBEDD 15:58, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree with VoBEDD. These articles are all brief mentions, and it also should be noted that they all describe him in a way that would be used when the readers aren't familiar with the subject. —Half Price 19:17, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, while those are all reliable sources, I'm pretty sure that they all featured as part of the previous Alex Day article written by Wmoran9550, and they were all discussed at length during its AfD. The consensus from that discussion was that they only contained the briefest of mentions of Alex and that it would be pretty difficult to verify a lot of even the most basic things in the article. Whether or not things have changed since then, I really can't say. VoBEDD 15:58, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Per Half Price's arguments - it doesn't appear like anything has changed since last time. VoBEDD 15:50, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Day was also had a main role in the documentary Chartjackers on BBC Switch (1). He was also interviewed on BBC Radio 1 about his role in the documentary (2). (Note: I realize these are YouTube videos, but they should not be dismissed outright for just for being YouTube videos. They represent sources where the subject is discussed in-depth). I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 16:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- yh, but Chartjackers was the most minor of minor shows - only one series, and each episode only lasted 5 minutes! tbh, I'm surprised that even that meets notability... 92.16.106.34 (talk)
- The notability of Chartjackers comes from how that was the artist name under which "I've Got Nothing" charted in the UK. From #2 on WP:MUSICBIO, I believe that that therefore makes the series notable. As was mentioned at the 2nd Nerimon AfD, it unfortunately doesn't necessarily make Alex notable, because he didn't receive a credit on the single (i.e. it wasn't credited to "Chartjackers & Alex Day", for example). VoBEDD 12:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per every argument favoring deletion at the previous AfD; they're all still valid. Lagrange613 (talk) 19:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable musician; doesn't establish either the music bio guidelines or general notability 92.16.106.34 (talk) 20:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.