Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allen Johnson (activist)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) –Davey2010^Talk 00:06, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Allen Johnson (activist)

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Not a single one of the references is significantly about him; some, like the first, barely mention him. DGG ( talk ) 05:32, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He is mentioned by several sources in very historically significant events. The first source is when the US Congress honored him. I believe the article is worth having to allow readers to know about his significant life and role in the African American Civil rights movement.--JumpLike23 (talk) 05:40, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I would like to make it known that @ DGG has proposed half a dozen of my articles for deletion (several unsuccessfully) and is attacking my writing as promotional. Please help; this experience with this user is my first very negative experience on wikipedia.--JumpLike23 (talk) 05:43, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It is a well written article, with sources. Wayne Jayes (talk) 13:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Reliable sources are included that prove this person notable in the Civil Rights movement. Other sources such as this one can also be found with a quick search of Google Books. ABF99 (talk) 13:30, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Excellent, sourced article on a lesser-known black civil rights activist. Passes GNG from sources showing. Preservation and digitization of Mississippi newspapers is notoriously bad, by the way, I have no doubt that sources showing are not exhaustive... Carrite (talk) 12:44, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
'Comment Having a member of congress read some remarks into the Congressional Record, is not a honor that shows notability, but a purely trivial compliment to a constituent. "Mentions" by significant sources or elsewhere are not references providing substantial coverage. The Google books source listed above is an excellent example of such a mention, where he is specified as being a friend of someone actually famous. Hosted a conference where notable people attended, all of which are listed and linked, is linkspam. That's not exactly promotionalism , and I didn ot usethe word here, but it is certainly a promotional technique. I do not consider it a good idea to make articles on such weak foundations. I of course recognize the difficulties of finding criteria for activists--essentially one needs, just as the GNG says, a significant work about them, and that is fairly uncommon. I I recognize the good fiath in making the article, and the importance of covering this area, but I do not agree with making an article on the basis of someone we would like to consider notable. DGG ( talk ) 13:19, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

calling him a friend of others based on the sources is inaccurate. He was a leader in the civil rights movement and that is clear based on the sources.--JumpLike23 (talk) 15:01, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - From the sources listed and others available online, Johnson appears to be notable not for who he was friends with, but for what he actually did during the Civil rights movement, which included: organizing political campaigns, relief programs, and marches. and speaking out after receiving beatings for his activism. The KKK bombing of the parsonage where his family slept received national coverage in several newspapers at that time, as found here here, here, here and here, which supports WP:GNG. Here there is quite a bit of information with citations on what effect the bombing had on both Johnson and the Civil Rights movement, which included a march and resolution, as well as more detailed information on Johnson himself. Although i agree that Johnson did not achieve the level of notability of many of the other people mentioned here, when taken together, the sources for him are not trivial and provide enough justification and detail for a Wiki article. ABF99 (talk) 15:41, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment wow, that is excellent research. Thank you, @ABF99. IF you feel comfortable adding those sources to the article, please do. If not, I will do it soon. Thanks again. --JumpLike23 (talk) 03:32, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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