Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank n Dank

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 23:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Frank n Dank

Contested prod (anonymously). This musical duo fails WP:MUSIC and lacks non-trivial coverage by reliable third party publications. JBsupreme (talk) 00:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Concur with statement that the duo fails WP:MUSIC in every single criteria. ThePointblank (talk) 00:32, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep some coverage here and a few minor mentions ([1][2]) in reliable sources and them some coverage in more dubious sources (e.g. [3]). Icewedge (talk) 00:42, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This is only my own observation, but I do not consider hiphop.de and hhpulse.com as qualified reliable sources for biographical texts here. I will of course defer to the community's best judgment on this. JBsupreme (talk) 00:57, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: If this is deleted everything in category:Frank n Dank albums should go as well. Icewedge (talk) 00:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If this and the discography are deleted, all of the rest can painlessly go via {{db-album}}. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 20:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unless better media coverage than provided in the article and above can be found, I don't see how they meet WP:MUSIC. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 20:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:35, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 02:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. Their album 48 Hours was produced by the Grammy award-winning J Dilla, who upon his death was described by Dave Stelfox in The Wire (March 2008 - http://incubate.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/stelfox-remembers-j-dilla-in-march-issue-of-the-wire/) as a hiphop producer who 'achieved something that few musicians ever manage, leaving not only a timeless and innovative back catalogue, but a whole generation inspired by his idiosyncratic and intricately wrought work.' They were also featured on his 'beat tapes, 'which promoted [Dilla's] sense of musical style' (http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2006_04_donuts.html). Frank N Dank have also been reviewed by Pitchforkmedia, a well-established and influential music webzine, who talk of 'the super-minimalist lunchroom table thump-clap of Frank N Dank' (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/145776-madlib-wlib-am-king-of-the-wigflip), and by Dusted Magazine (http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/3658). This work, as described in the Wire article, is strongly representative of the Detroit hiphop sound in the early 21st century.78.86.131.158 (talk) 19:10, 5 November 2008 (UTC) re-signed by User:Ecbenton— 78.86.131.158 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Ecbenton (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Working with a great producer (OK, really great) and getting some reviews of your album does not make you notable. Please see WP:MUSIC for more details. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 19:17, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well, they have been the 'subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable' (Pitchfork and Dusted reviews). They have been cited (Wire article) as 'vital to [J Dilla's] vision', i.e. they've 'been a significant musical influence on a musician or composer' who is notable, another criterion.Ecbenton (talk) 19:28, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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