Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joachim Grallert

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The result was redirect to Konrad Grallert von Cebrów. Daniel (talk) 10:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Joachim Grallert

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This Prussian watchmaker and jeweler, despite allegedly having shops as far as Vienna, seems to fail GNG, at least from what I can find online. There's nothing on Google Scholar or JSTOR, and on Google Books there's just 2 hits from contemporary Prussian newspapers: one is a bankruptcy announcement and the other one I can't quite figure out, but is certainly no significant coverage either. Unsourced since 2006 and juging by the creator's username, this article may have been the result of a genealogy hobby project. Lennart97 (talk) 22:08, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 (talk) 22:08, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 (talk) 22:08, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to his son (leaving redirect). The son was a WWI general. My guess is that the content here is derived from a longer article on the general in Hungarian or German. I doubt he is separately notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:42, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Wouldn't merge in this case just mean redirect? The son's article already mentions that Joachim was a watchmaker, and that's about all the information on him we can verify at the moment. Lennart97 (talk) 17:49, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:23, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:55, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Konrad Grallert von Cebrów. I can't find any evidence that Joachim Grallert was notable in his own right, so redirecting to the son's article, where he's mentioned, is a reasonable alternative to deletion. I agree with Lennart97 that no further content needs to be merged since the current article is entirely unsourced (and no other sources have been identified). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:23, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect,He is not notable for his business or being the father of a WW1 General, redirect to Konrad Grallert von Cebrów is more reasonable. Alex-h (talk) 08:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.