Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mimi Craven

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:20, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mimi Craven

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Non-notable actress. Mimi Craven had small roles in just three movies (as the article listed at the time this page was created), the most recent of which was 23 years ago. She was only married to director Wes Craven for three years, and in any event, notability is not inherited. Why someone with just three minor-role credits in 1982, 1984 and 1992 has a Wikipedia page is beyond me. --Tenebrae (talk) 03:20, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails WP:NACTOR. - Mr X 16:52, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: She has been in more than three movies and her most recent role was in 2002. However whether or not those roles would be the type that would give her notability is questionable. (My instinct is that they aren't, but I will do a good faith search just to make sure.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:06, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added an update note above, with link, reflecting the change. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. She's been in a lot of films. True, the last film was years ago but age is ok. Sandra opposed to terrorism (talk) 21:49, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Error: The nominator should notify the creator of the article and give him a week to write something. This is very bad form to not do this. He may know stuff that we idiots don't. Note "we" includes me.Sandra opposed to terrorism (talk) 21:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't say a word about that at Wikipedia:Deletion policy, so I'm not sure why the claim "procedural error" or the, in my opinion, over-the-top use of boldface. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:55, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - All the film roles appear to be minor. There are no reliable refs. Fails WP:GNG. The number of minor roles does not in itself confer any notability. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 21:53, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Wes_Craven#Personal_life, with history. I waffled between a redirect and a weak keep in this situation. That's she's known as "the ex-wife of Wes Craven" is undeniable, however we need to look at her film roles. Most of them are one off episodes and very small supporting roles, but she's had two cases where she was in a more visible position (where the films would pass notability guidelines): Mikey and Vampire Clan. This would put her at a threshold where she'd possibly pass notability guidelines, but it'd be as a very weak pass and I'd almost guarantee that she'd fail notability guidelines in the future if this is all that she's received attention for. (She is a photographer, but Craven has yet to receive any true attention for that.) In the end her roles just aren't really all that major and while she was (if I remember correctly) a visible enough character in Vampire Clan, it wasn't really a major role since she wasn't really mentioned in any reviews aside from a routine cast listing. I think that the best option here is to redirect this to the personal life section of Wes Craven's article, but with the history intact. It's possible that there may be other sourcing out there for her (although I somewhat doubt it) that never made it online, so if that does come about we can always restore the article. I just don't really see where her roles were major enough to really push her past notability guidelines and redirecting would allow us to have some mention of her somewhere. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since she's already mentioned in the Personal-life section at Wes Craven, as you note, I'm envisioning a phrase/sentence to the effect of "who had prominent roles in the films Mikey and Vampire Clan and a number of small roles in film and on television from 19xx to 19xx." Is thi what you had in mind? I'm not sure a full filmography is warranted. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - As an individual by herself, she's not particularly notable. I wouldn't object at all to a redirect being made, but I don't know what content exactly should be merged, if any. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:38, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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