Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Park Junghwa

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Antigng (talk) 15:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Park Junghwa

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This member has no significant solo work outside of work he has done with his group so this page is not necessary at this time and simply restates information found on the group's pages. Furthermore it has information that is un-sourced or not notable enough to be included on a normal artist page.her Television series have been accompanied alongside other members and just has cameo appear but the music video isn't noteworthy enough to include anyways and her activity is less than دeed to have a separate page. in music videos. I believe the page should be removed.(Pikhmikh (talk) 00:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC))[reply]

Keep - She is acting in the Korean TV drama as a Leading role, not cameo. -- Kanghuitari (talk) 00:23, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

but only one tv drama(just Webtoon Hero Toondra Show because Wives on Strike is cameo) is not reason for her notability Nam Taehyun of Winner (band) also has lead role in tv series also naeun of A Pink but their page has been removed. her solo work is not enough for notability. (Pikhmikh (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2015 (UTC))[reply]

Keep - Looking at Park Junghwa's work as the work of an Entertainer per Wikipedia:BLPNOTE "Actors, voice actors, comedians, opinion makers, models, and celebrities", she may qualify under #2. "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following," if failing the test of not having a "significant" body of work, or contributions, as either a musician or entertainer.

Looking at the aggregate picture, the group she belongs to, EXID, has WP page view stats averaging over 1000 daily.

And, including this English WP page being discussed, Park Junghwa has WP pages in seven more languages, with the Korean page having been created in April 2014, and a total of four different page creators for all eight pages. If the English page was perceived strictly as a "translation" of the Korean page, or any of the other six remaining pages, the value of their status as valid WP pages needs to be included.

It appears there is some significant "cult" following for Park Junghwa, being in a popular girl group, performing in fellow musicians' videos, and acting on television. I'm for keeping this developing page, which is a well-written (and as well-sourced as can be expected) representative page for any popular K-pop group's idol. If her career fizzles out, and the page with it, another group of editors can mull over keeping the page at a later date.

In general, it likens to the WP issue of the Wedding dress of Kate Middleton [1] and a lingering question about what pages women (and girls) find interesting on WP.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 02:10, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. 15:04, 4 September 2015 (UTC) Donottroll (talk) 15:07, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. 15:04, 4 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donottroll (talk • contribs)

Delete or redirect Besides the fact that none of her filmography is referenced, some of it isn't independent work at all but stuff she did with her group. Most of the rest also just is not notable. Example being the cameos, some are referenced earlier in the page by their YouTube videos with notes about the time where you can briefly glimpse her in them, the tell me video doesn't say what time you can see her and I couldn't find her. That's not a cameo...that's an extra. I only see a few items that are actually notable and those can be included on the groups main page.Peachywink (talk) 22:19, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See [2]. This link is the TV drama official website, she is definitely main role, not cameo and extra. -- Kanghuitari (talk) 01:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strong redirect or weak delete not notable outside her own band, no reliable sources that indicate she is, bit parts on TV are most in the EXID context (Toomass (talk) 00:35, 14 September 2015 (UTC))[reply]

Strong delete I looked for naver but we couldn't find many information about her. so think this article should be deleted. Park Jung Hwa isn't worthy being remained in wikipedia. Although she has been acting since she was a child , there are no materials about her career. she just take a role as a supporting actor. and she isn't notable person yet as a singer in Korea. Consequently, there is lack of information.

Choi Hyun Hee (talk) 02:40, 22 September 2015 (UTC) jeje1991, Choi Hyun Hee[reply]

Keep per Kanghuitari, Bonnielou2013. Donottroll (talk) 20:59, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- I think one drama role can easily fit on the group's page and doesn't require she have a separate article.Peachywink (talk) 19:42, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to EXID: No independent notability outside of the group. Tibbydibby (talk) 22:10, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Actually, listing for the first time--This discussion page was created without the {{afd2}} template and never transcluded to a daily log page for the perusal of those who follow AfDs generally. Fixed now--this discussion should run for at least another week before a larger audience.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --Finngall ^talk 13:26, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to EXID. Notability outside of the group is minimal, which can easily be covered in that article. This group could likely benefit from a List of EXID members article, as it does for List of Exo members. — ξ ^xplicit 06:26, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 20:32, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This page really need some improvement, I don't see the reason to delete.--John123521 (Talk-Contib.) RA 02:55, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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