Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Succession of Ali Khamenei

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftify. Per the reasoning provided, This is a notable topic, but it's current state is not helpful to the project. I am moving this to the draft space. Pinging @DGG:, and @Icewhiz:, there should be no objections if this is moved back to mainspace upon article improvement, loosely defined. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 21:56, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Succession of Ali Khamenei

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I am renominating this article for discussion. The previous nomination was malformed. The original nomination was...The article is not based on any facts and is pure speculation. I think it should be deleted per WP:CRYSTALBALL Goharshady (talk) 16:54, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I take no position on the merits of the nomination. Courtesy ping Goharshady. - Ad Orientem (talk) 02:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 04:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 04:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 04:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Just as a article about a future election is appropriate, because people being talking about this considerably in advance, so is an article of the succession to a national office in a non-democratic system. It becomes a matter of political concern long before the persona actually leaves office. DGG ( talk ) 07:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While the succession of the successor of Khamenei is WP:BALL, the succession of Khamenei, a 78 year old gentleman, is far from BALL turf (unless we view the present supreme leader as immortal?) and is widely discussed. Indeed, the date of said succession is unknown (Khamenei being on of the longest reigning dictators in the region) - it may occur tomorrow - or in another decade or two - however the list of possible candidates for consideration before the Assembly of Experts is indeed known and is quite limited due to various requirements (unless they were to be flexed at the time of election). Possibly one might add an usurpation (democratic or a different type of dictator) to the lists of possibilities. In any event, this is a much discussed succession - [1][2][3][4]. Icewhiz (talk) 08:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ Move to draft space, since it is plausible that this can become a reasonable article. The sourcing has to be improved, and the list of possible successors has to be attributed in the text. Also, the title of the article is incorrect, since the succession of Ali Khamenei occurred when he became Supreme Leader. The next Supreme Leader (Khamanei's successor) will then 'succeed' to the position. So the article is about the next leader's succession, not Khamanei's succession. Zero^talk 13:35, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify Ok I have had a chance to look at this and form some opinions. The subject is probably notable but the article is an unencyclopedic mess. Move it to draft space pending appropriate improvements. In its current state it just doesn't belong in the mainspace. (preceding comment is mine. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Good suggestion. I'll modify my vote accordingly. Zero^talk 13:55, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agree The topic seems considerably notable, but the article is confusing, questionably sourced, and of low quality. Draftifying will allow editors to to make it a good article. Henry ^TALK 15:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.