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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nom-withdraw (non-admin closure) Dysklyver 09:24, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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not notable, only sources I have find are unreliable tabloid features. Heavy promotion by MTV resulted in a great deal of promotional material, but no reliable independent sources. Dysklyver 20:22, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Dysklyver 20:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Dysklyver 20:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy keep. You promised to stop nominating articles for deletion just four days ago. Your deletion nominations are way too often partially or completely invalid and show a problem with your application of WP:BEFORE. I have no idea how you can only find "unreliable tabloid features" when a simple Google Books search immediately finds this: "Talking 'bout Your Mama: The Dozens, Snaps, and the Deep Roots of Rap" by Elijah Wald, Oxford University Press, 2014 (I guess this is not a "tabloid feature"?): "The most ambitious and influential dozens showcase was MTV's Yo Momma[...]" As of 2017, it is still being used as a notable example of insult shows, like here, in "A Slap in the Face: Why Insults Hurt - And Why They Shouldn't" by William Braxton Irvine, Oxford University Press. When someone who co-hosted the show dies, this is deemed important enough to be the title of his obituary in "Entertainment Weekly"[1] and for news stories throughout the world (Netherlands, but also Spanish, French, Danish... stories). It is referenced regularly, even ten years later, in all kinds of sources, as the example of rap-insult-dozens shows, e.g. in this French article. And all of this isignoring contemporary articles like the adweek one presnet in the article, or this lengthy NY Times interview about the show. Fram (talk) 09:02, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:56, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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