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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Ucucha 16:09, 28 March 2012 [1].

Darren Osborne

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Nominator(s): D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:37, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because i feel the article could be a featured article having already reached GA status. The article has been through a peer review were several points were brought up and addressed. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:37, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:49, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Don't need to bracket ellipses unless there's an ellipsis in the source
Done.
  • The name of this source doesn't appear to be "Cross examiner"
Done.
  • Check capitalization in footnotes
Done.
Done, removed both as they aren't reliable and don't add much to the article.
  • Ranges should consistently use endashes
Done
  • Watch out for typos (ex. FN 50)
Done
  • Use consistent formatting for print magazines and newspapers - compare for example FNs 48 and 53
  • Don't write titles in all-caps
Done.
  • FN 96: formatting
What's the problem with FN 96? D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:15, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done, replaced portion of digital spy refs with other sources. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:19, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Comments by MayhemMario

Hi I was going to do this at the PR, but as it is now closed, I will address my points here:

Done.
Done.
  • As a reader, we know this happened, but is there a source to confirm this:
    • "Dawson re-joined Hollyoaks in August 2003 after AllSTARS* split up." - He may have rejoined for other reasons.
Done, rephrased so it doesn't suggest he came back because they split up just after they had.
  • "Darren's personality has a taken a number of twists and turns over the character's duration." - Not a fan of the phrase "twists and turns", unless that is a direct quote, so " " is needed.
Done.
  • "Darren begins a "Bonnie and Clyde partnership" with Jessica Harris (Jennifer Biddall) which producer Bryan Kirkwood described as "very funny"." - Source?
Done.
  • Like Nikkimaria said, the article relies too much on Digital Spy.
Done, replaced portion of digital spy refs with other sources. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:19, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link 'Bonnie and Clyde'
Done.
  • "Darren proposes to Hannah that they stay married, Digital Spy chose this proposal as their "picture of the day" feature." - Bit of a small addition- not really needed, as this feature is not that significant.
Done.
  • I dont know if its just me, but im getting slightly confused about how all the "relationships" are muddled. For example, before the reader has got to the "Nancy Hayton" section, the reader reads,
    • "Cindy begins helping Darren plan his wedding to Nancy Hayton (Jessica Fox). Waring felt Cindy's feelings had been "reawakened" through this storyline, adding that they never "fully went away". Waring opined that Darren asking Cindy to help plan his wedding made her feel "needed and wanted"."
I don't know what is confusing you or how it could be fixed, the relationships all happened around the same time and all intertwine, there isn't anyway the relationships could avoid introducing characters who haven't had their relationships explained yet. D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the reader does not know how Darren got with Nancy, etc. I would suggest If I were you, I would merge the wedding to Nancy to one paragraph, and the surrounding events, but then that would ruin the relationships section. Leave it for now, and if another user brings it up, then maybe take some action. MayhemMario 12:21, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, i know what you mean but if i moved the stuff out of Cindy's section about the wedding and her relationship being retouched on then it wouldn't really belong in the Nancy section as it isn't about Nancy. D4nnyw14 (talk) 16:50, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I did think of maybe going under a subheading 'Marriage to Nancy', but I do not know whether that would be better or worse. Leave it for now. MayhemMario 16:53, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The only other solution is to have the relationships set out by time so it could be 2007-2009, 2010-2011 etc. which i don't think would work either, if others are finding it confusing then i'll find a solution. D4nnyw14 (talk) 16:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done.
  • "Darren and Nancy begin a relationship when Darren, Texas, India and Nancy begin online dating in December 2010." - Who is India? Who is Texas?
Done.
  • "The storyline is resolved when Cindy pays Suzanne £200,000 to return to Spain so that she can have Darren to herself. Suzanne accepts the money and leaves, taking Francine and Jack with her and leaving Darren heartbroken." -Source?
Done.
  • "Darren arrives in Hollyoaks with parents Celia (Carol Noakes) and Jack from America." - Link Jack, add actor name.
Done, further up page. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:56, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is not much division, or even mention, of the recast, and which parts were played by whom.
There isn't much information, this was back when Hollyoaks wasn't one of the big soaps and it wouldn't have received media coverage. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:56, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you would like to respond or have any queries about my points, tell me on my talk page. Good luck! - MayhemMario 17:55, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image Review Images are good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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