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October 13

File:The Ottawa Highlanders.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Ottawa Highlanders.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

while templated as PD-self, the watermark shows it comes from ebay Skier Dude (talk 03:15, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:43rd Regiment Duke of Cornwall's Own Rifles.jpg

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File:43rd Regiment Duke of Cornwall's Own Rifles.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

while templated as PD-self, the watermark shows it comes from ebay Skier Dude (talk 03:15, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:43rd Carleton Battalion (Carleton Blazers).jpg

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File:43rd Carleton Battalion (Carleton Blazers).jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

while templated as PD-self, the watermark shows it comes from ebay Skier Dude (talk 03:15, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:SUSRCLamarU.jpg

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File:SUSRCLamarU.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Appears to be taken from here: http://www.lamar.edu/newsevents/articles/221_691.htm

Uploader has posted multiple pictures from other sources marked as self made, don't see how this is any different. Mosmof (talk) 04:02, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Houston gold logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Technically, this is not a copyright violation, but I am stepping outside the bounds of process and treating this as if it were a file for deletion. The article has been deleted, and the image has no use as of this moment. No prejudice against recreation should there be a good reason to do so. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Houston gold logo.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

The uploader claimed that he created the image, but it is just a cropped version of http://houstongold.com/images/Houston_Gold_Logo.jpg Brianhe (talk) 05:12, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The uploader's claim is clearly incorrect, but all the same the image is correctly tagged pd-font. Thparkth (talk) 14:26, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: First this is unused. (Orphaned form the deletion of Houston Gold) Second the image is a derivative of a trademark. To be very specific: It is cropped from Houston Gold Logo.jpg to show only the text, sans other text and image/s and also removing the "tm" that followed the "Houston Gold." While text alone may be "free" and not copyrightable, this image was created from someone other than the uploaders work so, as the nom point out, it is not "I (Anang5 (talk)) created this work entirely by myself" as claimed by the original uploader. The {{PD-textlogo}} tag was placed on it after Skier Dude tagged it for not having information on its copyright. You can not, for example, take File:Skippy book cover.jpg, File:Book-cover-cartrouble.gif or File:20th century fox (2009).png and crop out everything else but the text and claim the resulting image as your own, nor can the resulting image showing only the text be tagged as {{PD-textlogo}}. Soundvisions1 (talk) 15:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion there is no copyrightable content in this image, regardless of provenance. Thparkth (talk) 21:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I opened a comparable discussion at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Family Guy television set.svg. Hasn't been closed yet. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:37, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: First I'm not sure I see the connection with commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Family Guy television set.svg as it includes more then just text. The simple fact is that I don't see why the image is isn't correctly tagged as {{PD-font}} with the {{Trademark}}. The image it was cropped from was not part of the logo itself, but a banner created for simplicity sake for use on the website. He may have made the summary was wrong, so I change it to reflect the correct source, so now the image shouldn't be deleted as being {{puf}}.--ARTEST4ECHO ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Overall comment: At this point there is no reason to "keep" other than just "because". If everyone simply ignores the misleading argument that cropping text from any image under the guise that text can't be copyrighted so it's ok, and ignores that this derivative was orphaned when Houston Gold was deleted and really has no use outside of the source website or the source websites logo (Houston Gold Logo.jpg) than sure - go ahead and move it to Wikimedia Commons and add a better summary that says "Image showing text spelling out the words 'Houston Gold'". Soundvisions1 (talk) 22:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree - I noted above that this image is probably not copyrightable, but I didn't propose that it should be kept. The closing administrator should consider deleting it on the grounds that it is trivial, orphaned and useless. Thparkth (talk) 03:52, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:8b22.jpg

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File:8b22.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unused image, could be a frame grab. Users other uploads have been deleted but they all seem to have come from different sources based on "source" links, this one has no source listed. Soundvisions1 (talk) 11:45, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:1936 - Pipe-Major (WO1) John P. MacDonald 1932 - 1939-5x7.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete as unsourced. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:52, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:1936 - Pipe-Major (WO1) John P. MacDonald 1932 - 1939-5x7.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

No original source is given. Was set to be deleted for lacking a source but admin declined it because 1936 isn't so far back that the uploader couldn't have taken it. But without any original source there is no way to verify the copyright and/or license. Users other uploads include several images taken from ebay. Soundvisions1 (talk) 11:49, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It seems reasonable to suppose that this is {{PD-Canada}}. If that is so, then whether it came to us by way of eBay, of someone's private collection, of the Regimental archives, of the Canadian archives, or anywhere else isn't important as the boilerplate on {{PD-art}} says. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:17, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: We should not "assume" anything. No original source or author is given. With no source how do we know this wasn't taken at some kind of even in the US or elsewhere in the world?. I would say to change to fair-use, but the no original source or author issue is still a problem.--ARTEST4ECHO ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:962 street fest.jpg

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File:962 street fest.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unused image. All of the uploaders files are credited to others (i.e - amazon.com, icograda.org, "Serene Al Ahmad", "Essam Abu Awad") and this one is credited to "osama abbas". Soundvisions1 (talk) 12:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A (63).JPG

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File:A (63).JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Mohelnitzky.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

No real source given or description, but the derivative image (File:Mohelnitzky.jpg) says "My personal property" and is used in the Mark Wong article to illustrate "Mark Wong". "My personal property" is too vague, I have several Books, CDs, DVD's and Magazines that I consider to be "my personal property" but I can't upload them using a {{PD-Self}} tag. Without an original source, and as they contributed no other images, there is not any indication that "Themoleman" is the photographer. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:44, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A Bag of Werther's Original.jpg

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File:A Bag of Werther's Original.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unused product shot. Same image, uploaded by the same user, was deleted from Wikimedia Commons in 2007 for being an unfree derivative work. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:57, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A 64b65547ad7811630f2790232393cfba.gif

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File:A 64b65547ad7811630f2790232393cfba.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unused animated gif, clearly created from a video. Despite the use of {{PD-self}} there is no original source listed. Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:00, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A Box of Pre-Seed Personal Lubricant.jpg

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File:A Box of Pre-Seed Personal Lubricant.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Orphaned. Most likely a copyrighted image used for promotional purposes. The uploader was blocked after creating a mainspace ad for this product: Pre-Seed and having a username indicating the user worked for the company. Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Probe parlor game box.jpg

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File:Probe parlor game box.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

To be honest I'm not sure about this one. However, my question with this image is that I am under the impression that photographing a copyrighted board game box still created an Un-free image. If I'm wrong please tell me. --ARTEST4ECHO ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like a non-free derivative work. So is File:Probe game boxes.jpg. If one image were to be retained as non-free, this one seems to fit with NFCC 3 better than the other. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:40, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is a derivative work for File:Probe game boxes.jpg since the background is different. However the same argument doses apply for both images, the items photographed will be covered by US copyrights so this image is not free. If File:Probe game boxes.jpg is turned into a {{Non-free fair use in}} claim then I don't believe the rules would allow two images since one contains the other--ARTEST4ECHO ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Mintaka Group Censored.jpg

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File:Mintaka Group Censored.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Mintaka.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

File:Mintaka2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

File:A Mountain.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

File:Mintakafront.jpg.w300h348.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

Unused images. First is the "Mintaka promo picture" with all faces "censored". The rest are related images - logos, mock ups, cd cover. Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:55, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Johnandlesley.jpg

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File:Johnandlesley.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unused image whose description says "This picture is the sole property of Lesley Standish Duckworth" which is incompatible with Wikipedia’s PD tags. --ARTEST4ECHO ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A Night At Sea.jpg

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File:A Night At Sea.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:AaronBowen2005.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

Unsure of original sources as none are listed. Out of 39 edits made between 2007 and now, this user seemed to mainly only work on the subject of these photos mainspace page, which they also created. (Aaron Bowen) Their other image upload was a record label promo photo. The uploader could be the photographer, the subject or a fan. Soundvisions1 (talk) 15:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A Walk in Gandhi Ashram.jpg

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File:A Walk in Gandhi Ashram.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

This is a flyer/brochure that is "available in premises of Gandhi Ashram, Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India." Claimed as {{PD-self}} but the text on the image says "Concept by National Heritage Volunteers" Soundvisions1 (talk) 16:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A acousti products apu ultimate lg lite pic.jpg

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File:A acousti products apu ultimate lg lite pic.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

This is an image, part of an online sell sheet, for a product found at AcoustiPack™. This image was taken form one of their distributors, Acoustic PC, for use in a proposed article found at Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Acoustic PC, which has been "incubating" since May. The uploader is using a "Self" license and appears to be an employee of Acoustic PC, however both website give no indication of any material being available via CCL or GNU. Acoustic PC carries a disclaimer that All rights reserved. Design and Proprietary rights by JLE Technology Group and the Acousti Products website says Graphics and content ©2002-9 Acousti Products. This could most likely be speedied as a copyvio. Soundvisions1 (talk) 16:39, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A and B carproject revised.jpg

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File:A and B carproject revised.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:A and B carproject.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs)

Unused images of a plaque. File:A and B carproject revised.jpg is a derivative of File:A and B carproject.JPG. Unsure if the plaque itself falls under copyright, but most likely the BART logo and the Bombardier logo on the plaque are either trademarked and/or copyrighted. Soundvisions1 (talk) 16:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A riverboat gambler.JPG

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File:A riverboat gambler.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unused image. No source or real description other than June 24, 2007 at Little Radio Los Angeles. Uploader doesn't seem to have made any other contributions since creating an account and uploading this image on June 25, 2007. Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a dispute about the source or licensing status of this image? If not it might be better taken to WP:FFD. Thparkth (talk) 21:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: Short version - see the Adding Images section of the Wikipedia Image use policy. Longer version: The reason it is here and not IfD is because there is no source, no real description, and the uploader made no other contributions. This means there is no way to verify the copyright status and no way to compare this to the uploaders other contributions. Meaning this image could have come from another source, which, in turn, means the uploader would not own the image which, in turn, would mean the {{PD-self}} tag is not correct and thusly make the image a possibly unfree file. I could have also used the {{di-no source}} tag as well because that contains the best "plain English" wording I have found to explain an image such as this: Source information must be provided so that the copyright status can be verified by others. But, because the uploader shows only one contribution was made in June 2007 and never again, it is doubtful they would have supplied a source. So, in this case, placing it here allows other users to do more detailed research and possibly locate an original source. I hope that explanation helps. Soundvisions1 (talk) 05:01, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A white lie.jpg

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File:A white lie.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unused and orphaned due to the deletion of A White Lie in 2007. Summary says "micheal gemin", uploader was "Brad 259" so it may not be their own work meaning the {{PD-self}} is not accurate. Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:19, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A23H in 1988.jpg

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File:A23H in 1988.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Vladimir Estragon in 1989.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

File:E.M.T. in 1973.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

File:Just Music in 1968.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

File:E.M.T. poster 1973.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs)

A series of images of the uploader that are sourced to "Harth Archiv" and were uploaded as fair use but an I.P changed to a "self" license in 2008. Suspect the I.P is the uploader as the uploader also changed licenses on File:A23H's fire painting in 1967.jpg and File:Just Music in 1970.jpg. It seems the licenses were changed after deletions such as File:Alfred 23 Harth 2009.8.15.JPG, File:Alfred Harth in 1973 .jpg and File:Alfred Harth at the age of 23 .jpg. Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:41, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Garfield.jpeg

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File:Garfield.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Found this on a few other websites by doin a Google image search, no evidence that the uploader, who has seems to have made a habit of ignoring our copyright policies, has permission to release it to the public domain. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:44, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:IDriveVisitorsGuide.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:IDriveVisitorsGuide.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Image is a photograph of a copyrighted visitors guide. –Dream out loud (talk) 21:22, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:AAR Qawalli Pic.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).

Orphaned image. Based on a comment on the users talk page the uploader seemed to be part of the group seen in this image. They created Aashiq al-Rasul which was deleted via a deletion discussion. Soundvisions1 (talk) 23:41, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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