User talk:Hintha

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Pali

Hi! Pali inherits from Sanskrit, it does not borrow, so for Pali etymologies you should use {{inh|pi|sa|word}}. And when adding Burmese descendants to Pali entries, you should mark them as borrowed, since Burmese borrows from Pali: {{desc|my|word|bor=1}}. Thanks for the entries! —Aryaman^{A (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान)} 22:25, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

gas station / petrol station

Hi,

Could you kindly break up into components the term စက်သုံးဆီဆိုင် (caksum:hcihcuing), please? Thanks for your Burmese edits!--Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 02:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for adding these. I have more requests, please: I can't find translations for perfume (substance providing a pleasant smell) and please verify supermarket#Translations, when you have time. Thank you. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 10:15, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

ဂလင်း

Hi,

Could you please check ဂလင်း (ga.lang:) - the etymology and the pronunciation? It's not in Sealang dictionary. ကျေးဇူးတင်ပါတယ်. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 00:56, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Verifying voice recordings

A new editor, Special:Contributions/Dudewing, has added some audio pronunciations which are a bit questionable into some entries, like အမိန့်ရှိပါ (a.min.hri.pa), မြန်မာ (mranma) and ခေါက်ဆွဲ (hkaukhcwai:). It's probably a good idea to check these in case the pronunciations are completely wrong. Thank you in advance. — surjection ⟨?⟩ 23:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me. I went through the pronunciations. The recordings appear be good faith edits, but I can detect a strong Thai accent.

The following are near native: ဘူး, နွား,

The following are OK, but should be re-recorded by a native speaker: အမိန့်ရှိပါ

The following are not accurate:

Incorrect consonant usage: ခေါက်ဆွဲ, ထမင်း, ဆိတ်

Incorrect tone: ဆန်, ကျွဲ, မြန်မာ

Incorrect vowel: တယ်

Google Translate [1] can also be used to sense-check audio recordings. Their voice algorithm for Burmese is quite accurate. Hope this helps. Hintha (talk) 03:33, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Burmese edits

Hi,

Sorry to annoy you. Thanks for your contributions! I have noticed that you are not very thorough with pronunciations and some other things, though. I have been pinging you but you never responded to my messages. If you're not 100% sure how to use {{my-IPA}} correctly, just give me or User:Mahagaja a yell, the template doesn't always produce the right results without some additional information. The pronunciation is very important and your native speaker's input is crucial. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 01:18, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Noted. I'll bear this in mind as I verify the pronunciations. I do have a question. For entries like ဆွမ်း, where multiple standard pronunciations exist (e.g., /sʰʊ́ɴ/ and /sʰwáɴ), what's the best way to reflect these? --Hintha (talk) 01:40, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Multiple pronunciations can be separated by a pipe "|" (not accelerated with {{my-new}}, only manual edit).

In the section Template:my-IPA#Finals_with_tones, it says: "The combinations listed in Wiktionary:Burmese transliteration#ကွတ်, ဝတ်, etc. (i.e. ွ or ဝ followed by တ်, န်, ပ်, မ် or ံ) will be interpreted intelligently by the module. If the unchanged pronunciation is desired, a slash / can be placed between the initial and final (e.g. ကွ/တ်).", so I used "ဆွ/မ်း" in the alternative phonetic respelling. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 01:50, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

သျှင် and အသျှင်

Hi, the MED at SEAlang spells these words ရှင် (hrang) and အရှင် (a.hrang) instead of သျှင် (hsyang) and အသျှင် (a.hsyang). Which spelling would you say is more common? —Mahāgaja · talk 20:26, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

The former spellings (ရှ-) are definitely more common today, although the latter forms are still encountered, especially in certain regions and in texts predating the 1960s. I believe there was spelling reform done during the socialist era, to more consistently spell various consonants (ဖ vs. ဘ; သျှ vs ရှ, etc.), which also why သျှမ်း (as in the Shan people) is now officially spelt ရှမ်း. As I come across additional documentation, I'll be sure to keep you posted.--Hintha (talk) 03:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Please comment on Module_talk:my-pron#Words_with_သျှ. We need to fix this. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 21:46, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Hintha, would {{superseded spelling of}} be a good choice for spellings like သျှင် (hsyang) and အသျှင် (a.hsyang)? —Mahāgaja · talk 06:58, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

That would be an appropriate choice! I found a 2003 PDF of MLC's orthography guide (link), which as I suspected, no longer recognizes the spellings သျှင် (hsyang) and အသျှင် (a.hsyang). That is not to say that these spellings are no longer used, especially in reference to historic / regional figures. For instance, government publications commonly reference U Ottama as အသျှင်ဦးဥတ္တမ (a.hsyang-u:utta.ma.).--Hintha (talk) 06:19, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I have added two categories to your user talk page: Category:User Mymr and Category:User my, since your user page doesn't allow editing without breaking the links. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 06:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

mail and prophet

Hi,

Are you able to check my translation of mail (postal delivery system) - စာပို့ (capui.) (I also asked at Wiktionary:Tea_room/2019/April#စာပို့) and could you also add a Burmese translation for (religious) prophet - it's not in any dictionary, as far as I can see. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 23:55, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

trans-mid

Don't forget to include the template {{trans-mid}}. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 05:25, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Devanagari

Hi,

What's the Burmese spelling of Devanagari? --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 04:40, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

I've added the definitions - ဒေဝနာဂရီ (dewa.naga.ri) and နာဂရီ (naga.ri). Cheers. --Hintha (talk) 06:49, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 08:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Your Khmer edits, e.g. ទសបារមី, ទសជាតក

Hello,

Khmer requires phonetic re-spellings to produce correct transliterations and IPA. Some letters are silent, consonant use a different from the nominal class, words required syllabification or they can be completely irregular. Please refrain from using {{km-IPA}} if you can't get the right result. Sealang Khmer dictionary] produces transliterations, so you can aim to get the same.

You can study this document: WT:KM TR, if you want to learn - but it wasn't easy for me. Otherwise, just use the manual transliteration with "tr=". Please note my changes to ទសបារមី (tŭəh baarĕəʼməy) and ទសជាតក (tŭəh ciədɑk), which now produce completely different transliterations and IPA! --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 07:28, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

description

Hi,

What's the Burmese word for description? I can't find it in dictionaries. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 12:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Also, friendship#Translations needs a Burmese translation. (I am just looking at basic words, which don't have Burmese and are not in Sealang dictionary, please don't feel overwhelmed, and take your time). --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 07:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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Affix template lang parameters

Hi Hintha, when you use {{af}} or a similar template, you don't need to use the |langn= parameters unless a component is from a different language. For example on ဗြဲတိုက်, you would use the |langn= parameter for the Mon part, but not the Burmese part. Otherwise it adds the page into Category:Burmese twice-borrowed terms, which we don't want. Julia ☺ ☆ 17:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

A Consultation for translating a book title

Hello, I have a question for you: how would you translate the book title How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World into Burmese?

(The original Chinese version is titled 《魔鬼在統治著我們的世界》, or móguǐ zài tǒngzhì zhe wǒmen de shìjiè in Pinyin.) Thanks for considering and answering. --Apisite (talk) 07:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

As I asked at Ninjastrikers' talk-page, what's the literary equivalent of the phrase "ကွန်မြူနစ်တစ္ဆေဟာ ကမ္ဘာကို ဘယ်လိုအုပ်စိုးခဲ့သလဲ"? In particular, what is the literary equivalent of သလဲ? --Apisite (talk) 23:57, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Jingpho altforms

Hi. I'm very glad you're taking the time to work with Jingpho. I just wanted to bring up the question of the alternative forms: perhaps it would be more fitting to choose a major form and list all others as alternatives? That is, for such words as Inglik, Ing-galik and Inggălik, which share both the etymology and meaning. Same goes for ăhkying and hkying. See for reference what was done with Corsican ghjacaru, ghiacaru and jacaru.

By the way, the categories are created by a bot every few days, so you don't have to do it by hand :) Thadh (talk) 08:43, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

About the recent Vietnamese entries

You are welcomed to add these entries about these religious figures (some of which I haven't heard of, granted, I'm not religious in any sense), just remember to keep the typical format for Vietnamese entries. A long-time anonymous editor has consistently omitted the pronunciation section; his/her entries are good but I have to constantly keep track of them in order to add the omitted part. In your case, just remember to add a period in the etymology section. Anyway, have fun.PhanAnh123 (talk) 02:25, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Vietnamese compounds

It seems that you are using this site to help fill the derived terms section of Sino-Vietnamese entries. I just want let you know that not every compounds listed here are actually used in Vietnamese, sometimes they just are in a Chinese language poem of an author (not necessarily Vietnamese). So be cautious of adding them.PhanAnh123 (talk) 11:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

သိက္ခာ and သိက္ခါ

I've broken the redirect from သိက္ခာ and သိက္ခါ, as I have found good verification evidence for the Pali word သိက္ခာ (sikkhā). You may want to add a link for the Burmese word to replace the redirect. RichardW57 (talk) 21:10, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

ဢၢင်းၵတေႇ

Hi, there's an error at this page. Would you be able to fix it? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 21:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Sure thing, done! - Hintha (talk) 22:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

ၵျွႃး

ၵျွႃး is still broken. Vininn126 (talk) 14:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

ပြန့်

Hi, could you please tidy up ပြန့် which was created by another user a bit? Thanks! Are the two etymologies related? RcAlex36 (talk) 08:30, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Rhetorical request

Hello@Hintha:, I don't know what race you are, but there are things I need to warn you about. I request that you immediately stop copying Mon vocabulary from the Sealang website without understanding Mon vocabulary, so the reason is that the Sealang website has Mon vocabulary errors, so I have explained this to Polski Wiktionary, you can take a look at my user talk from Polski Wiktionary, so it's not good for me to keep editing your mistakes, I still have a lot of work to do elsewhere in Mon vocabulary, so now your work on Mon vocabulary seems to bother me so I want you to immediately stop copying Mon vocabulary from Sealang website, so if you are interested in the Mon language, you want to learn it with your own brain, thanks.--𝓓𝓻.𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓸𝓫𝓮𝓼𝓪|𝒯𝒶𝓁𝓀 17:43, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

@咽頭べさ: - I really don't appreciate your condescending tone whatsoever. I highly encourage you to read Wiktionary:Civility and Don’t be a jerk so we can have a productive discussion. We can discuss the merits of using particular sources on a case-by-case basis, but I will not engage with any further hostility from you. We are all trying to make Wiktionary a better place, and more inclusive of underrepresented languages, be it Burmese or Mon. If you feel that a particular source has specific issues, please use the Discussion page of said entry. Appreciate it. -Hintha (talk) 02:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

@Hintha:, okay, let me ask you, please answer honestly, I would like to ask if you are being honest when you say that many of the Mon vocabulary were borrowed from the Burmese language, so it is clear that your actions are completely dishonest, if your actions were truly honest, provide strong evidence.--𝓓𝓻.𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓸𝓫𝓮𝓼𝓪|𝒯𝒶𝓁𝓀 11:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

@咽頭べさ: For ရုဲ, I've rephrased the connection as 'Compare with...', pending the provision of 'strong evidence'. --RichardW57m (talk) 10:53, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Can you please alert me to any such discussion. I've placed an order for Shorto's "Dictionary of Spoken Mon", but alas it will apparently take 5 or 6 weeks more to arrive. I've ordered it because I would like to see what it actually says. Having been published in 1962, it couldn't actually distinguish between encodings such as <RA, SIGN AI, SIGN U> and <RA, SIGN U, SIGN AI>; Unicode didn't exist then. Has either of you seen the actual dictionary? From the introduction to the SEALang page, I get the impression it only contains the native script in transliteration. --RichardW57m (talk) 11:34, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

@RichardW57m: , The use of Unicode Mon letter has been implemented since 2010 under the leadership of Anonta, currently, many Mon still use Mon Unicode, there is a typo, you can also learn the video explained by ဝိညာဏ်ထဝ် မန်ထေန်, Note: do not ask him about this matter and he cannot understand the English language to reply.--𝓓𝓻.𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓸𝓫𝓮𝓼𝓪|𝒯𝒶𝓁𝓀 10:37, 13 October 2022 (UTC)