Steward requests/Checkuser/2020-05
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Requests
Zoe Burghezul@ro.wikipedia
- List of users
- Zoe Burghezul (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Ciobanu Oilor (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Nea Mărin Miliardar (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: Local policy
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 07:43, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Confirmed Nea Mărin Miliardar, Zoe Burghezul, Prisonbreak300, Ciobanu Oilor, JohnGateway, Exorxist Explorer, Blacknigggaa, Salam Popa al 8-lea
From a technical point of view. This does not include verification of behavioral patterns or editing types. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 09:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! --NGC 54 (talk | contribs) 09:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Vivek ji123@hi.wikipedia
- List of users
- Vivek ji123 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 106.205.19.222 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 27.60.30.5 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 27.60.17.54 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: policy link
In progress… --Martin Urbanec (talk) 09:32, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Done In at least one of the cases, I can confirm there is a direct link between Vivek ji123 and the vandal. In the rest of the cases, I was unable to find a direct link. Best, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 10:10, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Hutidcom@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- Hutidcom (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Amazinglovemood (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Kissformeandyou (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:元維基用戶查核請求#Hutidcom
In progress… --Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:25, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Confirmed Amazinglovemood, Kissformeandyou and Myoceanbluesky. Unrelated Hutidcom. Hope that helps. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:34, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Request processed --Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:34, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, will report back. --Wright Streetdeck 14:51, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
LoveKuen@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- LoveKuen1031 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 月夕花宸.如 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:元維基用戶查核請求#LoveKuen1031
- Doing... --Alaa :)..! 18:14, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Unrelated + No sleepers --Alaa :)..! 18:44, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, we are not request for check sleepers. We would like to have a CU to confirm their relationship. Thx. --Wright Streetdeck 02:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm marking this request as done again as Alaa said unrelated, local action will be taken after this. Thanks.--Hamish 03:55, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Hamish:. Hello @Streetdeck: my comment mean = accounts unrelated and no sleepers (socks) for both accounts --Alaa :)..! 12:51, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, Thanks! --Wright Streetdeck 13:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
鬚00@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- 鬚00 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 大大中嬅 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:元維基用戶查核請求#Limarcos
- Doing... --Alaa :)..! 18:14, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Confirmed-No sleeprs --Alaa :)..! 18:48, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thx will report back. --Wright Streetdeck 02:14, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Sapio7@ro.wikipedia
- List of users
- Sapio7 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Raoulromania (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- MediaAndEntertainment (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- AndreiMoldovanNew (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: ongoing debate at local Village Pump
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 00:31, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
From a technical point of view. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 01:19, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your prompt answer, --Pafsanias (talk) 02:01, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
DrizzleD@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- DrizzleD (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 林木甜 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:元維基用戶查核請求#DrizzleD
- @Streetdeck: if they're used VPN to edits, please check their VPN are same or not Although the steward will check their ip are same or not. --SCP-2000 12:58, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 13:57, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- These users used VPN, but it is difficult to determine if it is the same VPN.
- Because there is not enough data on either side, it is recommended to examine the behavior pattern and editing type.
From a technical point of view. This does not include verification of behavioral patterns or editing types. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 14:17, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, we've brought it back. --Hamish 05:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
中国上校@zh.wikipedia
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:元維基用戶查核請求#中国上校
- Doing... per locked and loginwiki data. --Sotiale (talk) 00:17, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Confirmed 中国上校, 顶级生态位
- Both users used VPN.
From a technical point of view. This does not include verification of behavioral patterns or editing types. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 00:30, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Victor Plutasuu@ro.wikipedia
- List of users
- Victor Plutasuu (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Victor Plutașu (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: ro:Discuție Utilizator:Victor Plutașu and ro:Special:Contribuții/Victor_Plutasuu.
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 23:44, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Confirmed Past confirmed group, Capitanul Barbă Neagră, Perversudepetârguocna, Victor Plutasuu, Coulibiac
- Unrelated Victor Plutașu
From a technical point of view. This does not include verification of behavioral patterns or editing types. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 00:07, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Alexander Olaru@ro.wikipedia
- List of users
- Alexander Olaru (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Alex Olaru (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Coulibiac (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 04:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Confirmed Coulibiac(past confirmed group), Alexander Olaru
- Stale Alex Olaru
From a technical point of view. This does not include verification of behavioral patterns or editing types. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 04:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Kevin Smith Chen@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- Kevin Smith Chen (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Streetdeck (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:元維基用戶查核請求#Kevin Smith Chen
- No local discussion consensus to check, and clearly Streetdeck is a HK user while Kevin Smith Chen is a Taiwan user. What ridiculous check this is? Speechless.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- This does not rule out the possibility of network friend.--忒有钱 (talk) 11:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, I call steward. --Wright Streetdeck 11:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- BTW this no need a CU. --Wright Streetdeck 11:44, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Please steward attention, no consensus in local. --Wright Streetdeck 11:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Declined This is not a forum for handling checkuser request. If you have a very special or emergency reason, I can handle your request, but I haven't found any such reason. zhwiki generally publishes SRCU according to the consensus of the local community. Please go back to local. And don't write any more comments later on this thread. --Sotiale (talk) 11:52, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Fabian1117@mr.wikisource
- List of users
- Fabian1117 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Crispin100 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Sugarpie18 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Virajpatil786 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Bikelover982 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Akashsalla14 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
Reason(s): User:Fabian1117 User:Crispin100 These two accounts were created around Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 and their initial edits were to participate in WAM2019 on mrwiki, and their machine translated articles got them third place in the same contest [5] and [6]. All their article creations on mrwiki were cleaned by Tiven2240 themselves. Important fact about this contest it it was hosted by Tiven2240. User:Sugarpie18 User:Virajpatil786 User:Bikelover982 User:Akashsalla14 These four accounts were created after Tiven2240 started poll for admin-ship on mrwikisource, They have edits only on mrwikisource and they have done OCR of books uploaded by Tiven2240. All of these accounts voted for Tiven2240, on mrwikisource here [7]
- User:Sugarpie18 did OCR of file:बृहद्योगवासिष्ठसार भाग १ ला (Bruhdyogavasishthsar Part 1).djvu
- User:Virajpatil786 did OCR of file:भक्त बालक.djvu
- User:Akashsalla14 did OCR of file:शंकराचार्य जीवन चरित्र.djvu
- User:Bikelover982 did OCR of file:शिल्पकार चरित्रकोश खंड ३ – विज्ञान, तंत्रज्ञान, शिक्षण.pdf which is printed in two colums, when I requested them that normal OCR wouldn't work for this book and we need to do it some other way on their talkpage [8]. So they need to stop their edits as all of it is going get deleted. They stopped and The very next day I got a messege from User:Tiven2240, here [9] asking about how to perform OCR of pages with two coloums.
- I did some changes on your link text, please feel free to revert it if you think it is not correct. --Hamish 11:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Strange did you just listed everyone who gave support on my Administrator vote on mrws? Another attempt of attack and personal harassment. --Tiven2240 (talk) 11:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- I have uploaded many books on commons in the marathi language and also anyone is free to OCR them. Many of my previous uploads are OCRd by other users too and it's nothing new it's usual procedure here. Also I have been working on the Marathi Bible since a quite long time now and can be easily seen in my Wikisource edits. Since the book is in dual column so I had ask for guidance but I didn't knew that it will lead such a bad blame on me. The harassment is not anything new as I have faced same on Marathi Wikipedia and even in Marathi Wikisource because of which I had resigned last time.--Tiven2240 (talk) 13:42, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
In progress… Given the result of this CU investigation can affect the results of the elections, I'm going to look into this one. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 09:48, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Unrelated Cannot find any connection between any of the account. This includes only technical evidence analytics, not behavioral. Best, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 09:55, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Martin Urbanec:, * Thanks for the check, as the results of technical evidence says, they are not related to each other. But most of the accounts which I have reported here were created after the poll started. And it is seen from the evidence that those two which participated and won in WAM2019, which was organized by Tiven2240. Interestingly all of them only did OCR of books uploaded by Tiven. New accounts have less than 50 edits and that too only on this project. All of it make me feel that they are related behaviourally, but I don't know how to go about it now. Who will do the behavioural analysis? QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 14:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
დამოკიდებულება@en.wikiquote
- List of users
- Nwalker3 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Jedi3 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Luke Jedi Skywalker (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- ΞΔΞ (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- დამოკიდებულება (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Usernames related to Luke Skywalker (a Star Wars character)
- All these accounts have similar edit pattern on the same pages. See the following links of the same articles edited by all these accounts. [11] [12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20]
- Jedi3, Talk Archive 1, 2 3, 4
- Jedi3 was blocked thrice in April 2018 for Continued edit warring and Intimidating behaviour/harassment. Last block on 21 April. And an interaction ban was placed on 22 April. Last edit on 26 April 2018.
- Jedi Skywalker was started on 17 May 2018
- Similar customized reminders [21], [22], [23]
- All these users have been making copyright violations by copying huge amount of text to articles and were warned [24], [25]
- Copying large amount of text from author Koenraad Elst [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31], [32], [33]
- All socks use the same authors and sources on similar topics:
- After this user was blocked and interaction banned. He returned with new account, while his interaction ban was in place, to edit the same topics, clearly to circumvent the scrutiny. He continues to do this as User:დამოკიდებულება, with the same problems of copyright violations, edit-warring, intimidation and harassment for which he was previously blocked --Pratap Pandit (talk) 22:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 22:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
As expected, all but the last account is out of date. No comparable data can be found except that the last account(დამოკიდებულება) is using LEGITSOCK. I couldn't find any grounds that the last account was using multiple accounts except LEGITSOCK. --Sotiale (talk) 22:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sotiale, thank you for taking a look at these users. Any comments on the behavior evidence ? They are quite strong. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 07:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- This place checks the user's identity based on technical data, but does not review behavior patterns. Behavioral patterns should be discussed locally, not here. --Sotiale (talk) 08:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Tirukodimadachengunrur@ta.wikipedia
- List of users
- Tirukodimadachengunrur (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- PoliticsPoliticsTamilan (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- ChandigiriChandigiri (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Red dagger kaikolar (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: ta,wiki has local policy as en.wiki. Please refer user's talk page which has discussion in Tamil.
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 09:29, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
From a technical point of view. This does not include verification of behavioral patterns or editing types. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 09:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. --AntanO 11:14, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Pratap Pandit@en.wikiquote
- List of users
- 49.206.12.114 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 49.207.140.245 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- BabbarJatt (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Pratap Pandit (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- TedCarl (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Bajrang_Ram (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Cedix (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Mr.Regalis (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Apyn (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Sunfee (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:en:Example
Reason(s): Block evasion and disruptive sockpuppetry. Pratap Pandit was blocked on wikiquote, during which time he edited with IP socks. Pratap Pandit is a confirmed sockpuppet on wikipedia : SPI and the sockmaster is BabbarJatt. Block evasion and sockpuppetry abuse is also suspected on other wikimedia projects.
Block evasion at wikiquote with IP socks: The most recent block evasion was two days ago. At a time when he was blocked at wikiquote, he edited on wikiquote with IP socks. A number of similar edits were made on similar topics by similar IPs on wikiquote, for example here: [46][47][48][49][50][51] This needs to be checked. The edits were of the exact same type and topics (articles) as the editing of some of his other socks.
He was blocked as sockmaster of a very large amount of sockpuppets which were active across many wikimedia projects, including wikiquote and the Hindi wikipedia. His account needs to be checked for sleeper accounts and additional socks across wikimedia projects.
In Hindi wikipedia, it looks clear that he has also used socks (User:TedCarl and User:Pratap Pandit, and more?) [52] [53] [54]. Other wikipedia projects that should be checked include Punjabi wikipedia [55] Similar edits by similar IPs on the sockmaster's favorite topics were made across wikiquote and wikipedia and other projects. All these accounts have similar edit pattern on the same pages across wikimedia projects using similar usernames or IP socks while the sockmaster was blocked in wikipedia. See as example the following links of the same articles edited by some of these accounts.[56] [57] [58] [59] [60] [61] [62] [63] [64][65] (some of these are block evasions with IP socks).
There is disruptive sockpuppetry across different wikimedia projects, creating multiple accounts to evade current blocks and continuing same problematic behavior of continued edit warring, personal attacks, intimidation and harassment of multiple users for which he was blocked on at least two projects (indefinitely on wikipedia) [66] [67] [68] [69] [70] [71] [72][73] [74] [75][76] [77] [78] --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 21:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)- I have added User:Sunfee and User:27.122.14.73 (both accounts on wikidata, but global check needed) to the list. I wasn't aware first when I made the report, but it seems Sunfee was instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet to add to his intimidation, harassment and personal attacks. Sunfee is a SPA that was created only for this purpose of instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet. It is very clear that Sunfee is a sockpuppet of somebody, Sunfee seems very experienced with wikipedia and it is not possible that this user has no other account. Please check. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 07:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- No local discussion (non-steward close). --Wright Streetdeck 08:53, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- I did not know about this rule. After I open local discussion, how can I open this case again? Thanks. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 09:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- There are now local discussions at Hindi wikipedia [79] and wikiquote [80]. Pratap's sockpuppetry at english wikipedia was already previously discussed at wikiquote [81] [82] [83] [84] . --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 10:27, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- This false report has been filed in retaliation to my SPI report. Since the report is about Wikiquote so I will talk about wikiquote. This user has failed to provide which 2 existing accounts on Wikiquote that have been used as a sock for some kind of misuse. Moreover, he seems to have simply copied words from my report without even understanding what it means or giving any evidence for claiming sockpuppetry. All the diffs he gave are from his own reports or accusations by his supporters, who I have reported on Noticeboard for harassment. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 14:11, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Reopened as I don't find a requirement of local discussion for CU requests affecting English Wikiquote. If a steward finds the request unnecessary, feel free to close the request.--GZWDer (talk) 23:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed, @Streetdeck: feel free to comment, but please let stewards close requests in the future. --Rschen7754 06:32, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- In case no one noticed, let me point out that none of the accounts (other than Pratap Pandit) listed by this user above have made any edits on en.wikiquote . Many dont even exist on Wikiquote. This is an entirely frivolous report. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 08:21, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed, @Streetdeck: feel free to comment, but please let stewards close requests in the future. --Rschen7754 06:32, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Diffs and accounts are in the report, and evidence of block evasion (at wikiquote and it seems also wikipedia with IP socks) and sockpuppetry (at Hindi wikipedia and english wikipedia and wikiquote with IP socks). The report is also about wikiquote, Hindi wikipedia and other projects need to be checked too. The accounts include also the already confirmed socks from the SPI at wikipedia. If the admins have questions or need more information, I will respond to them. At wikiquote, it was already noted that you are impersonating admins, while others at wikiquote have commented that your account may need a "global lock", that all signs point to WP:NOTHERE that you are engaging in continuous harassment and edit warring and that action should be taken by admins Plus you have acted as a meatpuppet of User:Sunfee. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 08:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- You seem to not understand what "evidence" means. These accounts have not made any edits on Wikiquote. You have picked up random IPs on a day and listed them here. You are basically harassing me on every Wiki project. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 08:55, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- I will respond to admins if they have questions and need further information. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 08:58, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- You seem to not understand what "evidence" means. These accounts have not made any edits on Wikiquote. You have picked up random IPs on a day and listed them here. You are basically harassing me on every Wiki project. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 08:55, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Diffs and accounts are in the report, and evidence of block evasion (at wikiquote and it seems also wikipedia with IP socks) and sockpuppetry (at Hindi wikipedia and english wikipedia and wikiquote with IP socks). The report is also about wikiquote, Hindi wikipedia and other projects need to be checked too. The accounts include also the already confirmed socks from the SPI at wikipedia. If the admins have questions or need more information, I will respond to them. At wikiquote, it was already noted that you are impersonating admins, while others at wikiquote have commented that your account may need a "global lock", that all signs point to WP:NOTHERE that you are engaging in continuous harassment and edit warring and that action should be taken by admins Plus you have acted as a meatpuppet of User:Sunfee. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 08:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Not done What I am interested in is 1) whether I can handle this checkuser request, 2) whether there is a basis for processing this checkuser request, and 3) whether it needs to process the checkuser request. First of all, most accounts are considered multiple accounts on enwiki, and some accounts do not have an account on enwikiquote. It is pointless to re-determine an already judged account, and above all, it is impossible to investigate accounts that are not in enwikiquote. If you suspect that multiple accounts have been abused on hiwiki or another wikis, please request again for the wikis. At least your request is not something can be done with enwikiquote. --Sotiale (talk) 10:03, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
If a disruptive user who was noted by many people at other projects that he is continuously engaging in intimidation, harassment personal attacks and edit warring and is a confirmed sockmaster of a sockfarm asks for a SPI with ridiculous claims (it can be checked in less than a minute that the accounts have not even edited at the same time), the SPI still gets done in less than 3 hours. But if one asks for a SPI on a confirmed sockmaster of a sockfarm who has a history of harassment it takes hours and hours for a reply. But I understand that there are many requests, and thank you for having taken a look. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 10:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
I also asked about this account on wikiquote that is suspected of block evasion (Pratap was blocked on wikiquote during this time, he almost only edits articles that were previously edited by me or Rupert). Is this not a basis for checking? Was this maybe missed? He was recently blocked on wikiquote during which time he used socks to edit wikiquote. At a time when he was blocked at wikiquote, he edited on wikiquote with socks. A number of similar edits were made on similar topics by similar IPs on wikiquote, for example here: [85][86][87][88][89][90] The edits were of the exact same type and topics (articles) as the editing of some of his other socks. There are many other examples where Pratap edited articles that were edited by me (or Rupert) previously [91]. There was similar block evasion on other wikimedia projects on articles and topics Pratap edited before with similar account names/numbers. I am sure that this is a sock used for block evasion. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 13:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Maybe the size of the request was too large and some things were missed: I also wanted to check if there is a sockmaster of User:Sunfee that can be found at wikiquote ( on the basis that Sunfee is a new account with edits uncharacteristic of a new user). Wikidata has now checked Sunfee and not found the sockmaster at wikidata. Since Sunfee was giving meatpuppet instructions for wikiquote, I think the sockmaster could very likely be found at wikiquote. Is it possible to check if the sockmaster account can be found at wikiquote? Thanks. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 09:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Sunfee@wikidata
- List of users
- Sunfee (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 27.122.14.73 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:en:Example
Reason(s): User:Sunfee and User:27.122.14.73 (both accounts on wikidata, but global check needed) : it seems Sunfee was instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet to add to his intimidation, harassment and personal attacks. Sunfee is a SPA that was created only for this purpose of instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet. It is very clear that Sunfee is a sockpuppet of somebody, Sunfee seems very experienced with wikipedia and it is not possible that this user has no other account. Please check.
At wikiquote, it was already noted that Pratap is impersonating admins, while others at wikiquote have commented that his account may need a "global lock", that all signs point to WP:NOTHERE that he is engaging in continuous harassment and edit warring and that action should be taken by admins User:Sunfee was instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet and shares part of the blame for this harassment that was noted by many others on wikiquote. დამოკიდებულება (talk) 10:30, 24 May 2020 (UTC)- @დამოკიდებულება: The correct place to request CheckUser in Wikidata is Wikidata:Requests for checkuser. Hpwever, CheckUser will not reveal relationship between accounts and IP addresses.--GZWDer (talk) 06:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- GZWDer, I was asking here because it needs a global check (the sockmaster account could be in Hindi wikipedia or in any other wikipedia). This is SPA account with about 5 edits who seems very experienced with wikipedia, so there has to be a sockmaster. And that sockmaster is likely not to be found locally at wikidata, but only in a global check which includes all wikipedia projects. Also, I made the request but Jasper Deng said I should be filing a request at m:SRCU, which is here. Thank you for commenting. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 07:47, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- IPs and accounts CANNOT be compared, either @ Wikidata or here. We only compare account to account. Full stop. No. — regards, Revi 08:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note that there is no such thing as "Global CheckUser" as of now - it is actually checkuser-ing each projects where the user has been active. — regards, Revi 08:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Revi, I wanted to check if there is a sockmaster ( on the basis that they are a new account with edits uncharacteristic of a new user). Wikidata has now checked Sunfee and not found the sockmaster at wikidata. Thank you for commenting.--დამოკიდებულება (talk) 08:49, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Since Sunfee was giving meatpuppet instructions for wikiquote, I think the sockmaster could very likely be found at wikiquote. Is it possible to check if the sockmaster account can be found at wikiquote? Thanks. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 08:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- If Wikidata checkusers want to know additional info about the socks, they know how to contact us securely without revealing Private Information. — regards, Revi 11:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. What I am asking is to check Sunfee at wikiquote, just as Sunfee was checked at wikidata. ( on the basis that they are a new account with edits uncharacteristic of a new user). This is clearly a harassing SPA with 5 edits who is using a sock to give meatpuppet instructions. I have now opened a request for Sunfee at wikiquote. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 12:32, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Revi, I wanted to check if there is a sockmaster ( on the basis that they are a new account with edits uncharacteristic of a new user). Wikidata has now checked Sunfee and not found the sockmaster at wikidata. Thank you for commenting.--დამოკიდებულება (talk) 08:49, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Pratap Pandit@hi.wikipedia
- List of users
- 49.206.12.114 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 49.207.140.245 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- BabbarJatt (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Pratap Pandit (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- TedCarl (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Bajrang_Ram (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Cedix (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Mr.Regalis (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Apyn (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:en:Example [92]
Reason(s): Block evasion and disruptive sockpuppetry. Pratap Pandit was blocked on wikiquote, during which time he edited with IP socks. Pratap Pandit is a confirmed sockpuppet on wikipedia : SPI and the sockmaster is BabbarJatt. Block evasion and sockpuppetry abuse is also suspected on other wikimedia projects.
He was blocked as sockmaster of a very large amount of sockpuppets which were active across many wikimedia projects, including wikiquote and the Hindi wikipedia. His account needs to be checked for sleeper accounts and additional socks across wikimedia projects.
In Hindi wikipedia, it looks clear that he has also used socks (User:TedCarl and User:Pratap Pandit, and more?) [93] [94] [95].
Due to confirmed massive sockfarm at enwiki, there needs to be a check at hiwiki also. Two socks have been found at hiwki, but there is likely more.
There is disruptive sockpuppetry across different wikimedia projects, creating multiple accounts to evade current blocks and continuing same problematic behavior of continued edit warring, personal attacks, intimidation and harassment of multiple users for which he was blocked on at least two projects (indefinitely on wikipedia) [96] [97] [98] [99] [100] [101] [102][103] [104] [105][106] [107] [108]
Pratap's sockpuppetry at english wikipedia was already previously discussed at wikiquote [109] [110] [111] [112] .
At wikiquote, it was already noted that Pratap is impersonating admins, while others at wikiquote have commented that his account may need a "global lock", that all signs point to WP:NOTHERE that he is engaging in continuous harassment and edit warring and that action should be taken by admins Plus Pratap has acted as a meatpuppet of User:Sunfee. დამოკიდებულება (talk) 10:30, 24 May 2020 (UTC)- None of the accounts (other than Pratap Pandit and TedCarl) listed by this user above have made any edits on hi.wiki . They dont even exist on hi.Wiki. TedCarl already redirects to Pratap Pandit, and they never edited same page. This false report has been filed in retaliation to my SPI report. Since the report is about hi.Wiki so I will talk only about hi.Wiki. Diffs are from Wikiquote and this user has failed to provide any evidence of 2 existing accounts on Hi.Wiki that have been used as a sock for some kind of misuse. Moreover, he seems to have simply copied words from my report without even understanding what it means or giving any evidence for claiming sockpuppetry. All the diffs he gave are from his own accusations on Wikiquote or accusations by his supporters, who I have reported on Wikiquote Noticeboard for harassment. This is an entirely frivolous report. And დამოკიდებულება is basically harassing me on every Wiki project. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 11:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- I will respond to admins if they have questions and need further information. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 11:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Note: If you have changed the wiki you want to investigate with hiwiki, please provide evidence based on sockpuppets abuse on hiwiki, not on the work of other wikis. I already know that he used sockpuppets on enwiki. But that's on the wiki, and whether he actually exploited the account on another wiki also needs a separate rationale. Please remove any accounts for which hiwiki's account is not registered. And reorganize it based on the abuse on hiwiki. --Sotiale (talk) 03:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I don't speak Hindi so I couldn't see all. But I have now taken a closer look. It appears that the second account on hiwiki was created two weeks after the first account stopped editing. There was no editing overlap at the same time. So I don't think anymore that this was abusive sockpuppetry (as was the case on enwiki). --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 04:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Are you saying you're withdrawing your request? --Sotiale (talk) 12:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, since those two accounts were the only accounts I could find to be active also on hiwiki, and as I said above, they did actually not edit at the same time. Thank you for checking Sunfee. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 12:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your cooperation. Hope the problem goes well. Then Request withdrawn --Sotiale (talk) 12:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, since those two accounts were the only accounts I could find to be active also on hiwiki, and as I said above, they did actually not edit at the same time. Thank you for checking Sunfee. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 12:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Are you saying you're withdrawing your request? --Sotiale (talk) 12:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
JohnWilson1978@en.wikiquote
- List of users
- JohnWilson1978 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Remember, No Wiki (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 03:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Confirmed JohnWilson1978, Remember, No Wiki, The Riddler 69 420, Remember, no GMG
You may want to go to SRG, but all of their accounts are locked now by me. Thanks for reporting. --Sotiale (talk) 03:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Stupidbuteasytoremember@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- Stupidbuteasytoremember (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Bowie Cheung (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
It doesn't seem to be using VPN or proxy.
From a technical point of view. This does not include verification of behavioral patterns or editing types. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 07:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Sunfee@wikiquote
- List of users
- Sunfee (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 27.122.14.73 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Xsaorapa (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Feitoria (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:en:Example See cases for Sunfee and Pratap at wikidata, wikiquote and here
Reason(s): User:Sunfee: it seems Sunfee was instructing Pratap (from wikidata) to act as his meatpuppet at wikiquote to add to Pratap's intimidation, harassment and personal attacks.
I want to check if there is a sockmaster ( on the basis that they are a new account with edits uncharacteristic of a new user). Wikidata has now checked Sunfee and not found the sockmaster at wikidata.
The same check as in wikidata needs to be made for wikiquote. It is very likely that the sockmaster could be found at wikiquote, since the meatpuppet instructions were about wikiquote.
At wikiquote, it was already noted that Pratap's account may need a "global lock", that all signs point to WP:NOTHERE that he is engaging in continuous harassment and edit warring and that action should be taken by admins.
User:Sunfee was instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet and shares part of the blame for Pratap's harassment that was noted by many editors and admins on wikiquote. It is also likely that part or even most of the meatpuppet instructions were over email.
User:Sunfee and User:27.122.14.73 : Sunfee is a SPA that was created only for this purpose of instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet. It is very clear that Sunfee is a sockpuppet of somebody, Sunfee seems very experienced with wikipedia and it is not possible that this user has no other account.
This is SPA account with about 5 edits who seems very experienced with wikipedia, so there has to be a sockmaster. And that sockmaster is likely not to be found locally at wikidata, but at wikiquote. Since Sunfee was giving meatpuppet instructions for wikiquote, I think the sockmaster could very likely be found at wikiquote. Is it possible to check if the sockmaster account can be found at wikiquote?
Sunfee was instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet to add to his intimidation, harassment and personal attacks. Sunfee is a SPA that was created only for this purpose of instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet. It is very clear that Sunfee is a sockpuppet of somebody, Sunfee seems very experienced with wikipedia and it is not possible that this user has no other account. Please check.
Sunfee is a harassing SPA that was created only for the purpose of instructing Pratap to act as his meatpuppet. It is very clear that Sunfee is a sockpuppet of somebody, Sunfee seems very experienced with wikipedia and it is not possible that this user has no other account. This is a harassing SPA with 5 edits who clearly is a sockpuppet of somebody, and he was abusing his sock to give meatpuppet instructions to Pratap for intimidation, harassment and personal attacks. The diffs of Sunfee are all here [113]. This is clearly a harassing SPA with 5 edits who is using a sock to give harassment meatpuppet instructions. Please check. Thank you. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 12:32, 25 May 2020 (UTC)- @დამოკიდებულება: Why you didn't discuss in local first? Thank you.--SCP-2000 14:56, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- There is no need for local discussion for SRCU (for most projects), please see the 1st entry here. What is needed is what Sotiale laid out in the 1st request good diffs and reasons why a check should be done. I rather they give this than local discussions which they are having on multiple projects without good outcomes. @SCP-2000:.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:14, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- And დამოკიდებულება Who are you checking against? Isn't this just a repeat of the declined request? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Camouflaged Mirage, there are only 5 diffs, this SPA only made 5 edits [114]. I have laid out the reasons above, what more is needed? I asked for Sunfee to be checked in the request for Pratap, but I'm guessing they missed to check for Sunfee because the request was large and so focused on Pratap, or maybe because the request for Sunfee was added to the case a bit later after the initial request. The check for Sunfee was not "declined" at wikidata, Sunfee was checked at wikidata but there were no leads on any possible master. I'm simply asking for the same check to be done at wikiquote as was done at wikidata. Wikidata only declined to check for the other account, but Sunfee was checked. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 15:33, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- I meant the check (still on this page) you requested about them on wikiquote, it is declined. Sunfee had 0 edits on wikiquote, if 5 edits are unconclusive, I don't see 0 edits we will get any further information. To be honest, this seems like fishing. To be frank, if you think they are harrassing you, lodge a complain to wikidata sysops. I think you had already done so by filing a RFCU there. If they decline to do anything, drop the case and move on. There isn't much we can do here. Hope you understand. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- The request for Pratap was about Pratap, Sunfee is obviously a different user. I think this led to some confusion, I shouldn't have included Sunfee in the Pratap request, so now I made a separate request for Sunfee. Sunfee is obviously a SPA sock used for harassment and meatpuppetry. Since the SPA seems very experienced with wikipedia it is very probable that this is a SPA sock and the master can be found. A check was made at wikidata, but since most accounts don't visit wikidata, no master was found. But it is clear that the SPA knows Wikiquote, so the obvious place to look for the master is at wikiquote. (It doesn't matter that the SPA with 5 edits has not edited at wikiquote, we know from his edits that he has very likely a master and that master can very likely be found at wikiquote). A check is entirely reasonable on these grounds. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 16:00, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Is more information needed? I can provide more information if needed. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 19:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- The request for Pratap was about Pratap, Sunfee is obviously a different user. I think this led to some confusion, I shouldn't have included Sunfee in the Pratap request, so now I made a separate request for Sunfee. Sunfee is obviously a SPA sock used for harassment and meatpuppetry. Since the SPA seems very experienced with wikipedia it is very probable that this is a SPA sock and the master can be found. A check was made at wikidata, but since most accounts don't visit wikidata, no master was found. But it is clear that the SPA knows Wikiquote, so the obvious place to look for the master is at wikiquote. (It doesn't matter that the SPA with 5 edits has not edited at wikiquote, we know from his edits that he has very likely a master and that master can very likely be found at wikiquote). A check is entirely reasonable on these grounds. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 16:00, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- I meant the check (still on this page) you requested about them on wikiquote, it is declined. Sunfee had 0 edits on wikiquote, if 5 edits are unconclusive, I don't see 0 edits we will get any further information. To be honest, this seems like fishing. To be frank, if you think they are harrassing you, lodge a complain to wikidata sysops. I think you had already done so by filing a RFCU there. If they decline to do anything, drop the case and move on. There isn't much we can do here. Hope you understand. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Camouflaged Mirage, there are only 5 diffs, this SPA only made 5 edits [114]. I have laid out the reasons above, what more is needed? I asked for Sunfee to be checked in the request for Pratap, but I'm guessing they missed to check for Sunfee because the request was large and so focused on Pratap, or maybe because the request for Sunfee was added to the case a bit later after the initial request. The check for Sunfee was not "declined" at wikidata, Sunfee was checked at wikidata but there were no leads on any possible master. I'm simply asking for the same check to be done at wikiquote as was done at wikidata. Wikidata only declined to check for the other account, but Sunfee was checked. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 15:33, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Additional information needed Who is the comparison you want? If there is no comparison, the request cannot be processed. If you do not specify the comparison, the request will be fishing, so I need your cooperation. --Sotiale (talk) 03:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
After some research, I am adding another user to the list. I hope it is not true, since my last short encounter with the user was positive. But my job is to give strong evidence, despite that I don't want it to be true.
It concerns the user Xsaorapa. Taking a look at the Sunfee IP and the archives, the case looks strong.
First, Xsaorapa seems to be a French speaker (see his contributions at frwiki). His edits are mostly on Islam. And in the archives it can be seen that he used a sock before in a very similar way.
The Sunfee IP is 27.122.14.73. I have looked at similar IPs, and seen edits in his favorite article topics (about Islam) and in the same language (French). [115] [116] [117] [118] [119]
Other evidence shows that Sunfee and the Sunfee IP are French speakers, for example, Sunfee wrote in his short text "here are more evidences" [120], this is exactly how a French speaker would write see here, not an English speaker.
At the same time that Sunfee was active, Xsaorapa was having some minor edit disputes with me. At at least two articles, I was restoring content that he deleted from articles. Strangely enough, my restoration of the content he deleted was then used by Sunfee in his case to claim that I added the content, he claimed that the restoration of content he deleted was an addition of content. (This concerns the article Quran on non-Muslims). Here I restored content [121] he deleted on 18 May in this edit [122] and here on 21 May he includes this restoration link to claim it was an addition [123]. That was just 3 days later.
In the archives it can be seen that User Feitoria was a sock of User Xsaorapa in 2018 [124]. Just like Sunfee it was used for only 4-5 edits and in a very similar (almost exactly same) way. So this would not be the first time that the user would be using a sockpuppet SPA with 5 edits for harassment. From the archives it can be seen that Xsaorapa previously used a sock SPA in almost exactly the same way even concerning some of the same accounts.[125] The writing of Sunfee and Xsaorapa (Feitoria) is very similar, for example both make misleading claims and just paste a random list of 10-20 links without much comment or analysis, and most of the links are even the same. [126] [127]
Well, I hope I am wrong, but the evidence is strong enough that it should be checked. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 05:19, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 12:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Confirmed Sunfee, Xsaorapa
Old account is not investigated, and IP is also not.
From a technical point of view. This does not include verification of behavioral patterns or editing types. In judging sockpuppets, it is necessary to comprehensively look at behavior pattern or editing type. --Sotiale (talk) 12:22, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
坦帕灣光芒460@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- Ay1np2508373 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 710248fc (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- PCSH-710248-710262 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:元維基用戶查核請求#Ay1np2508373
- Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 15:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Confirmed sleepers: Ifj9ow.smy5m1.hsdx98.da0610
- These accounts used mobile IP band.
- Some accounts used VPN.
From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 15:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thx will report back. --Wright Streetdeck 16:10, 28 May 2020 (UTC)