Meta:Requests for adminship/Happy-melon
- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a closed Meta-Wiki request. Please do not modify it.
I'm w:User:Happy-melon, I'm an admin on enwiki and also over at www.mediawiki.org. Being an admin there, I can import pages, which is useful and necessary, but the only allowed source is from meta. So any content that needs to be imported from other WMF wikis needs to go 'through' meta. Previously I've asked admins or stewards here to import pages for me, but that's silly and wastes everyone's time. I'd like the 'import' flag here at meta so I don't need to keep bothering the admin community here whenever I need to move content over to mw.org. Happy‑melon 21:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- If the problem is import sources, then have mediawiki.org's import sources fixed. If I didn't tell you that when you made the request you link to above, then that was an oversight. Two-stage importing is wrong, don't do it. Bugzilla is that way. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 21:22, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well there is the argument that we might not only need content from enwiki. I guess it does apply to meta itself to a certain extent (I don't know how many import sources are configured here, probably a fair few), but it makes much more sense for meta to be a 'crossroads' than for each random wiki that needs to import to configure sources from (potentially) every other wiki in the WMF cluster. But I'll do you a deal: you import w:User:Gadget850/Cite messages, and I'll start a poke at mw.org about getting enwiki added to the import sources there. :P It doesn't properly solve the 'problem', but it would at least shut me up :D Happy‑melon 21:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- You say it would shut you up, but that totally conflicts with the "it wouldn't solve the problem" bit... :P EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ooh, ouch :D I mean it won't stop the next user coming along and wanting to import things from dewiki, or enwikibooks (I know they have a MediaWiki user guide we'd quite like to steal), or ttwikt, or wherever. Telling all of them to get the 'correct' import sources set up on mw.org (or wherever else they want to copy it) is not a sustainable solution. Using meta as a crossroads and giving anyone who needs it the ability to bring stuff here, then take it somewhere else, is a sustainable solution; it only requires one import source on each wiki, and just one complete list (here). That's MHO, anyway. Happy‑melon 07:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, well there is an open bug to enable everywhere-to-everywhere transwiki imports. Maybe once transwiki stops sucking so much, it'll get done. Until then, you can ask to have import sources added to mw.org. (I also have comments about the MediaWiki guides on enwikibooks, perhaps something to discuss by email or whatever) — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- FWIW, Meta has only
commons, foundation, w, cs, frset currently. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC)- All-to-all TWI would be very nice. In the meantime, there's my side of the bargain... Can I have w:User:Gadget850/Cite messages please? Pretty please? :D Happy‑melon 20:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ooh, ouch :D I mean it won't stop the next user coming along and wanting to import things from dewiki, or enwikibooks (I know they have a MediaWiki user guide we'd quite like to steal), or ttwikt, or wherever. Telling all of them to get the 'correct' import sources set up on mw.org (or wherever else they want to copy it) is not a sustainable solution. Using meta as a crossroads and giving anyone who needs it the ability to bring stuff here, then take it somewhere else, is a sustainable solution; it only requires one import source on each wiki, and just one complete list (here). That's MHO, anyway. Happy‑melon 07:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- You say it would shut you up, but that totally conflicts with the "it wouldn't solve the problem" bit... :P EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well there is the argument that we might not only need content from enwiki. I guess it does apply to meta itself to a certain extent (I don't know how many import sources are configured here, probably a fair few), but it makes much more sense for meta to be a 'crossroads' than for each random wiki that needs to import to configure sources from (potentially) every other wiki in the WMF cluster. But I'll do you a deal: you import w:User:Gadget850/Cite messages, and I'll start a poke at mw.org about getting enwiki added to the import sources there. :P It doesn't properly solve the 'problem', but it would at least shut me up :D Happy‑melon 21:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I did a bit of work in this area a few months ago. As far as I remember, you don't need special access here if you're just working on the Meta → MW.org migration. You need Special:Export access at Meta (which everyone has) and then you need +importer at MW.org. (You can't reliably use transwiki importing because it sucks.) Not sure why you'd need adminship here (at least for this). It does come in handy if you want to edit protected pages like the blacklists or whatever, though. --MZMcBride 15:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not asking for adminship; it's just the root page title (this page seems to be used for all rights from rollback up to oversight!). I think import has its own problems (limited number of revisions you can export, and if/when they fix edit attribution for moved content, it will only be via transwiki and CentralAuth). It might be an alternative, however. Happy‑melon 07:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Not done. I'd be happy to import that page for you... only it doesn't exist. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- It got moved with redirect-suppressed to w:Help:Cite messages. Happy‑melon 22:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
