Talk:1934 Constantine riots

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Copyright

Is the JTA report out of copyright? It seems excessive to copy the whole report here unless it is free to use. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:43, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted undiscussed move against Common name

Reverted an undiscussed move which is against the common name (the common name being 1934 Constantine Pogrom).

These are a few of the many examples found in about 20 minutes: = LE POGROME DE CONSTANTINE =^[1]

Constantine 1934: un pogrome "classique"^[2]

"Constantine Pogrom (1934)" ^[3]

"1934 saw Constantine the scene of a pogrom between the 2 and 6 August, in which 23 Jews and 3 Muslims were killed, and 81 others were injured."^[4]

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""The Constantine Pogrom of 1934"" ^[6]

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It's a common name and shouldn't have been reverted, especially not without discussion. Drsmoo (talk) 14:50, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Commonname in French is not relevant. You have provided only one, tertiary, English source with the name. Onceinawhile (talk) 17:21, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ethan Katz, “Constantine Riots (1934)”, in: Encyclopedia of Jews in the Islamic World, Executive Editor Norman A. Stillman.
The Journal of North African Studies, Volume 17, 2012 - Issue 5, Constantine before the riots of August 1934: civil status, anti-Semitism, and the politics of assimilation in interwar French Algeria, Joshua Cole, Pages 839-861

Incorrect. I posted three English sources and three French sources. You posted the same reference twice, not to mention messing up the grammar in the article. Don't move the page name without consensus. Drsmoo (talk) 20:26, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Le pogrome de Constantine". The Jerusalem Post | JPost.com. Retrieved 2017-08-12.
^ Aouate, Yves-Claude (1982). Constantine 1934: un pogrome "classique" (in French). Paris: publisher not identified.
^ Levy, Richard S. (2005). Antisemitism: A Historical Encyclopedia of Prejudice and Persecution. ABC-CLIO. ISBN 9781851094394.
^ Brebner, Philip. "The impact of Thomas-Robert Bugeaud and the decree of 9 June 1844 on the development of Constantine, Algeria". Revue de l'Occident musulman et de la Méditerranée (in French). 38 (1): 5–14. doi:10.3406/remmm.1984.2041.
^ "A propos du pogrom de Constantine (Août 1934) in L'Espagne et la pensée juive. Colloque CNRS-Bibliothèque espagnole: 26 novembre 1984". Revue des Etudes Juives Paris. 144 (1–3).
^ Swedenburg, Ted; Stein, Rebecca L. (2005-06-22). Palestine, Israel, and the Politics of Popular Culture. Duke University Press. ISBN 0822386879.
^ "Un témoignage inédit sur le pogrom de Constantine (1934)". Revue des Études Juives. 148.

Requested move 23 October 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus is that "riots" is the common name. (non-admin closure) Bait30 ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 02:47, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1934 Constantine Pogrom → 1934 Constantine riots – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Googlebooks and Googlescholar show many more results in English for Constantine riots vs Constantine pogrom. Per the above discussion, French language sources do seem to use the term pogrom frequently, but this is English Wikipedia. Onceinawhile (talk) 11:51, 23 October 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 00:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Dicklyon (talk) 02:47, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Number of victims

It seems that there is a typo and missing information in the number of casualties of the riots. The page originally stated that "34 Jews" had been killed, but this was not in line with what is mentioned in the source, namely "25 Jews and 3 Muslims".^[1] Loabla (talk) 21:50, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Cole, Joshua (2012). "Constantine before the riots of August 1934: civil status, anti-Semitism, and the politics of assimilation in interwar French Algeria". The Journal of North African Studies. 17 (5): 839.

[1] "Le pogrome de Constantine". The Jerusalem Post | JPost.com. Retrieved 2017-08-12.

[2] Aouate, Yves-Claude (1982). Constantine 1934: un pogrome "classique" (in French). Paris: publisher not identified.

[3] Levy, Richard S. (2005). Antisemitism: A Historical Encyclopedia of Prejudice and Persecution. ABC-CLIO. ISBN 9781851094394.

[4] Brebner, Philip. "The impact of Thomas-Robert Bugeaud and the decree of 9 June 1844 on the development of Constantine, Algeria". Revue de l'Occident musulman et de la Méditerranée (in French). 38 (1): 5–14. doi:10.3406/remmm.1984.2041.

[5] "A propos du pogrom de Constantine (Août 1934) in L'Espagne et la pensée juive. Colloque CNRS-Bibliothèque espagnole: 26 novembre 1984". Revue des Etudes Juives Paris. 144 (1–3).

[6] Swedenburg, Ted; Stein, Rebecca L. (2005-06-22). Palestine, Israel, and the Politics of Popular Culture. Duke University Press. ISBN 0822386879.

[7] "Un témoignage inédit sur le pogrom de Constantine (1934)". Revue des Études Juives. 148.

[:0-8] Cole, Joshua (2012). "Constantine before the riots of August 1934: civil status, anti-Semitism, and the politics of assimilation in interwar French Algeria". The Journal of North African Studies. 17 (5): 839.

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