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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 5, 2016. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Turkish slave-soldier Ahmad ibn Tulun* established the first local dynasty to rule Egypt since the Pharaohs?*
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I have started a separate article for Tulunids - a lot of the stuff here (from 'Collapse of the Dynasty' onwards) could be merged into that, since it's not directly relevant to Ahmad ibn Tulun himself. Also Khumarawaih is a separate person and should have his own entry, not be redirected here.

There is a separte article for the mosque (Mosque of Ibn Tulun), and quite of lot of stuff could be moved there.

Copyvio?

I'm not sure about these, but they're awfully suspect. Ahmad ibn Tulun (history · last edit) and Mosque of Amr (history · last edit). Both by the same author. Both had "By A.I MAKKI" at the top of the article. I was unable to locate online sources for either of these articles, but searching for "By A.I MAKKI" returns a ton of hits, such as [1] and [2], suggesting that the legitimate author is a writer somewhere, and that these works are copied. I didn't place the copyvio notice on the pages since I can't find a source, but if anyone else is able to come up with anything, feel free to add the notice. —Brim

The author, as you mention, is awfully prolific, and never sources any of his articles - he's either a genuis with total ability to recall minute detail, or he's writing research papers without citing his sources (which in academia we like to call "plagiarism").

More to the point with his article is that very little of it is about Ibn Tulun himself - most of it is about the mosque, which has its own page. The text isn't wikified, and while overflowing with detail, it's not well written. If it is kept, it needs an awful lot of editing. (And I'm not just saying that because I contributed to the Temp page).

Khowaga 18:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted the article and replaced it with the temp page written by Khowaga. Accordingly I've un-transcluded Brim's cv-unsure template above. Thanks to all. Chick Bowen 15:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Update assessment to GA in WikiProjects?

Shouldn't the WikiProjects be updated to GA? Adamdaley (talk) 00:36, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like someone forgot it during closing. Fixed it. Constantine ✍ 12:44, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]