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36th Chess Olympiad

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The current article states that she played at the 36th Chess Olympiad twice :). Thue | talk 20:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes ;)--AndrejJ 21:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

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Hello, I raise the issue of the notability of this article. Based on the content of the article, my reasons are the following:

  • her ELO rating does not make her notable (there are millions of chess players who got to 2262 some day),
  • she does not seem to have achieved any notable result,
  • she does not seem to have created anything notable (e.g. creating a chess school, writing an outstanding chess book, ...),
  • no one has written a book about her.

Please explain to me if I miss something. SyG 13:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

She is notable at least for:
  • being WGM
  • playing Chess olympiads for three times (up to 2006)
  • being one of the strongest Slovene female chess players (also Slovene vicechampion)
Enough? --AndrejJ 13:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your explanations, which bring me the following thoughts:
  • I do not think being a WGM automatically makes you notable, but as it is a matter of taste I agree this is a good argument
  • having played in three Chess Olympiads is not notable by itself
  • it seems there are very few rated chess players in Slovenia, as FIDE lists only 523. Moreover, she does not seem to be "one of the strongest" as she is currently rated 61th by FIDE. Perhaps you meant "one of the strongest female" ?
  • your assessment that she is Slovene vice-champion is interesting, maybe it should be sourced and put in the article ?
On the other hand, I do not want to bother you with a long discussion on that, so I will erase the notability stamp, just because she is a WGM. Thanks for having discussed my concerns, and happy editing! SyG 14:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree on a couple of points.
  • I agree that her peak rating of 2318 isn't high enough to warrant a biography on its own.
  • I disagree that the WGM title isn't an indication of notability. I think there are fewer than 200 WGMs total worldwide, so I consider this defacto evidence of notability for a female chess player. Apparently Slovenia has only 3 WGMs, which isn't a lot.
  • I disagree that playing in Olympiads is not notable. The Olympiads are the chess equivalent of the Olympics, and as Olympic athletes are notable, by extension Chess Olympiad participants are as well. In my view, Chess Olympiad participation satisfies the "competed at the highest level of competition" for amateur atheletes criterion of WP:BIO. This doesn't mean that every Olympiad participant needs a long Wikipedia page as many of them from countries lacking top-level chess talent are not strong players compared to the world's best, but I think a brief page with relevant biographical information and some details of Olympiad participation and results is appropriate.
  • Agree that the Slovene vice-champion title is important, and needs to be sourced. In my view, national chess champions are notable. Quale 16:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]