Talk:Eli Crane

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

This page is about a politician who is running for office or has recently run for office, is in office and campaigning for re-election, or is involved in some current political conflict or controversy. For that reason, this article is at increased risk of biased editing, talk-page trolling, and simple vandalism.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Military / Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the military biography work group (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Military history: Biography / Maritime / North America / United States / Post-Cold War

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military biography task force
	Maritime warfare task force
	North American military history task force
	United States military history task force
	Post-Cold War task force

Politics: American Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by American politics task force (assessed as Low-importance).

United States: Arizona / Military history Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Arizona portal This article is supported by WikiProject Arizona (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Military history - U.S. military history task force.

U.S. Congress Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject U.S. Congress, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United States Congress on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.U.S. CongressWikipedia:WikiProject U.S. CongressTemplate:WikiProject U.S. CongressU.S. Congress articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is about one (or many) person(s).

Might need a controversy section soon.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/republican-house-member-refers-to-black-americans-as-colored-people-in-debate-188414533987 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-eli-crane-refers-black-americans-colored-people-house-floor-rcna94200 FusionLord (talk) 15:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Beatty's false statement

Why isn't Beatty's false statement covered in her article? RE "I’m old enough to remember when Black officers, when women, were not allowed to serve,” is patently false. She was born in 1950 and would have started remembering things in the late 1950s. Women and blacks started being allowed to server in numbers in the early 1940s, and even before that (ref the Tuskegee Airmen pilots). While I see why she was upset, if wiki wants to be neutral as it claims, both sides of this mess need to be covered. See https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4096840-arizona-republicans-colored-people-remark-draws-floor-rebuke/ 70.161.8.90 (talk) 22:12, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why not bring that up on her article talk section instead? This isn't a forum but a place to talk about proposed and current edits. Wikipedia isn't a place for your whataboutism and political agenda. FusionLord (talk) 12:25, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy

On July 13, 2023 US Republican House member, Eli Crane, referred to African Americans, by using the Jim Crow terminology, as "colored people". He later claimed that he misspoke. His claim has been challenged by democrats. 2601:14A:700:C600:C8C4:2EA2:DE3E:160C (talk) 01:48, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Already in the article under Eli Crane#Tenure -- Pemilligan (talk) 06:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article innacurately cited

The Business Insider cited under in the Tenure section makes no mention of diversity training or diversity. The claim that the proposed amendment would eliminate diversity training is simply not supported by the source. What the source does say is that Crane says the amendment would prevent the consideration of race and gender in various military decisions. This would impact diversity training as currently done in the military if the training racially discrimnates against some members, but we have no evidence in the article about that.

I propose the following change : " ... a bill amendment he proposed that he says would prevent racial discrimination in the military." BookNotion (talk) 19:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was bold and implemented the change. I put "Consideration of race" instead of the proposed "Racial discrimination". --BookNotion (talk) 08:15, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Author bias

Stop with adding your bs letting slant on biographies such as “false election claim” and “far right wing” labels on people who don’t agree with your left wing bullshit 2605:59C8:3058:4B10:4910:8447:CAE1:2E0 (talk) 17:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stop with this unreliable source bs

https://www.beyond-battle.com/interviews/2018/9/12/eli-crane shows that he was clearly aboard the USS Gettysburg, military records of living persons are not accessible and he clearly said in the unsubscribe podcast he was a gunner's mate.

https://issuu.com/therosienetwork/docs/me_magazine_november_12-2-15_new_co/s/16104747 supports SEAL Team 3 the fact that he was a Sniper.

So I understand you do not like primary sources like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ldPtU_lAo but in reality, getting information like dates and ranks is very hard with a living person and you lack of interest in allowing that information to be on the page only shows your above bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:447:CC00:1C60:F44D:E46E:9EB5:EC0 (talk) 11:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]