Talk:Klaus Störtebeker
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A legend like Robin Hood and Wilhelm Tell
[edit]In 1401 a number of pirates were as a matter of fact executed in Hamburg, they were called "Vitalienbrüder" or "Likedeeler". Unfortunately, no records are available that anyone of them had that particular name. The freely invented name first appears in the "Chronica Novella" of Hermann Korner from Lübeck in 1435 (Article in German) and the storytellers never looked back (Example: He "made a deal with the authorities that they would free his men if he walked past them after being beheaded, and that's just what he did!"). Whenever somebody raised doubt they would explain his real name was "Johann Störtebeker", not Klaus, and he was from Danzig, not Wismar, blahblahblah. There were a couple of Störtebekers in the area, but none of them was a pirate, Johann for example lived at least until 1413 as a merchant. German.Knowitall (talk) 16:16, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Name and birthplace
[edit]A "learning German" mp3 I downloaded from Deutsche Welle claims Störtebeker was born on Rügen. This seems to contradict the claim that little is known about his origins; can anyone corroborate this story? --Saforrest 23:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
"Even the name Störtebeker is only a nickname meaning "empty the mug with one gulp" in Old German. (...)(His real name is said to have been Nikolaus Storzenbecher.)"
Störtebeker is the same as Storzenbecher, just different German dialects and both mean "to toss back the goblet"
- Richard Hakluyt said that his real name was Henry van Hall. I've also seen Klaus von Alcun quoted, though no source was given. I've not seen any medieval source that calls him anything other than Klaus Störtebeker.
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