User talk:Jbhunley/Archives/2018/May

Thank you

Reasonable dialogue is always a way forward and I think you understand the difficulty of having such conversations in this forum. Controversy can be resolved, but only if parties are willing to compromise and actually listen (or in this case read). Your constructive commentary, clearly shows that you weigh the options and seek improvement for the overall project. Thank you. It is very much appreciated. SusunW (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

@SusunW: It looks like I might have brought about more controversy than your project was looking for at this time in the development process. Sorry about that. I do think that much of what is being said it an accurate assessment of how those proposed changes would be received at and RfC though.

I think if several national teaching awards can be found it would be good to include them as examples in the existing PROF. Also, there are discipline specific awards like the Robert L. Heath Award or the Jackson Jackson and Wagner Behavioral Science Research Prize which might be worth considering (I do not know what other awards might be out there or how significant these are. I only know of these because an ex, who is rather prominent in her field, was presented with them.) I would suggest doing a survey of the academic awards that are out there, especially those given in countries of the periphery, and see which could indicate notability, either singly or as a recipient of several related awards. Such an index would help both because it would point to potential article subjects and it would give some basis to argue Keep at AfD. Jbh ^Talk 16:26, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, most of the women have dropped out of the conversation and it is a bit more contentious than we would have liked. However, there is a song..."You can't always get what you want, but if you try, sometimes you get what you need". It is apt, as there is at least discussion going on (and maybe a bit of awareness of the problems has been brought forward?) I think such an index would be helpful, though I am not sure that I am the most qualified person to draft it, nor sure that it would gain acceptance unless some of those most involved in PROF created the list. SusunW (talk) 16:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Clarification

I should clarify why I thanked you for this. It was basically the first time in a long while that I got the impression that someone on ANI had clicked the diffs and archive links I posted and actually read through them and took them into account, excluding "sexy" cases where the subject against whom I was providing evidence was clearly racist. More often, it seems editors who agreed with me went in agreeing with me based on their personal experiences, and didn't write anything that looked like they had actually made my evidence gathering feel worthwhile. I'm not big on barnstars but if I was I'd give you one for that. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 09:09, 23 May 2018 (UTC)