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Ways to improve Nova Star (cruiseferry)

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I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Please add categories and expand the article. Thanks! Carriearchdale (talk) 01:32, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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5NaF2

Please note that the content you have added about the sequel to Five Nights at Freddy's is not supported by any reliable sources and also is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. As of my last check, and particularly when I looked at Five Nights at Freddy's 2 before I turned it into a redirect, there are not enough reliably souces to verify any of the content about the game at this time. We know it will be released and that is it. Pointing to a DeviantArt page, a YouTube video, and one of the myriad 5NaF fan Wikias does not work on Wikipedia.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 17:58, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

I see. I apologize for the unverified sources, but I wasn't really using them in the sense of citing trivial information. The reason I added the DeviantArt & Wikia links was just a reference to see the pictures, and the YouTube link was just a link to the trailer. I wasn't using them really to cite information, more of using them as references to aforementioned pictures and videos. Sorry for the inconvenience.-Killerwhale24680 (talk) 18:31, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

You can't really use just photos or videos to cite anything. In time, there will be coverage of the game to satisfy notability guidelines.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

March 2015

Hello, I'm ToonLucas22. Your recent edit to the page Five Nights at Freddy's appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ToonLucas22 (talk) 22:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

The only info I put on the page was the release dates for the mobile ports of FNAF2 and FNAF3, both of which were correct. I believe the only incorrect thing I added was a typo I made (I accidentally wrote "2015" instead of "2014"), though that could have been quickly fixed. I don't understand why it was revered, since it was all correct except for one typo. --Killerwhale24680 (talk). 1:19, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Your edits to Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, Foxy, Mangle and BB

Why did you remove the FNAF characters from these disambiguation pages? I don't see any reason to do so, they are well known FNAF characters so I think they should be included in the disambiguation pages. --ToonLucas22 (talk) 22:35, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Because they are minor uses. They have been added there numerous times before, and each time, they have been removed. Just because they are from a well-known indie game (which will probably die down in a year or so anyways), does not mean they are significant enough to be included outside of the game's page itself. --Killerwhale24680 (talk) 22:51, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't think "minor use" is necessary for a thing to not be included in a disambiguation page. On the Tag disambiguation page, there is a string saying "Tag, the main character of ModNation Racers". I don't know if that counts as a minor use but its still necessary on that disambiguation page. --ToonLucas22 (talk) 13:54, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

I see your point, but it still is considered a minor use and is unnecessary. Anyone who is searching for FNaF won't type in the word "Chica" or "BB" and expect the Wikipedia page of the game to pop up. Besides, FNaF is probably going to be almost entirely forgotten about in a year or so anyways. It's just a passing fad, so it's not notable enough for inclusion. And I don't make the rules, you know. Other people have included it before, and each time it's been removed, so I'm just following with what's been going on for months. --Killerwhale24680 (talk). 20:42, 14 March 2015.

If it's gonna be forgotten, then people will look up Chica, or Freddy, or something like that, and if they find the name, that would keep the game popular. Right? Right? Vitoepicfist (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, but Wikipedia isn't a place for advertising. We're not supposed to intentionally help keep the game popular, and if they search anything relevant to the game, odds are that a million other articles and websites about it will pop up. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 21:49, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Small numbers - spelled out vs numerals?

Saw your edit summary on FN@F3 about the 'rule' for spelling out numbers, and thought I might as well chip in! I always heard that anything smaller than 10 should be written, and 10 or greater should be in numerals. Of course, I've got no idea where I heard that, so I could be pulling it out of literal thin air.

Also, thanks for keeping up with the various FN@F pages. You do great work!

NekoKatsun (talk) 22:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Ah, that would probably make sense. I wasn't too sure what the case was for it, but what you said seems to make the most sense.

And yeah, most of my recent editing has been done on FN@F pages. I really like the games and information related to them, so it gets a bit annoying when people constantly are vandalizing it and putting in speculation and false information, so I try to maintain it as best as I can.

Thanks for the support! :) --Killerwhale24680 (talk) 1:52, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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Your recent edit to Freddy Fazbear

Hello, this is Batman2297. I noticed that you deleted my entry for Freddy Fazbear and redirected it to Five Nights at Freddy's. Please stop. You're right, this isn't the FNAF wiki, but people still make pages about Batman and Freddy Krueger, without Wikipedia being the Batman Wiki or the Nightmare on Elm Street wiki, and you seem to be fine with that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.248.175 (talk) 00:41, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

That's because Batman and Freddy Krueger have been around for decades on end, have over a dozen movies and other media made about them, and are known by the majority of people in first-world counters. FNAF, on the other hand, currently consists entirely of only 3 video games hasn't even been out yet a full year. There is no reason to create a page based on a minor idea that hasn't even been out a full year.

I already asked one Wikipedia admin about this and he agreed with me, and said that he would look into it soon. In the meantime, there is no reason to have pages about minor details from an indie game. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 20:48, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Nah

I don't really care what you think I should do or shouldn't do. I'll do what I think is right, and if you think it's wrong, then fix it. Batman2297 (talk) 03:02, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I would try to fix it, but every time I do, you just revert my edit. And regardless of what you think, what I'm saying isn't bias. Every time I ask you to stop doing something, it's because what you're doing is unnecessary or just a bad idea in general, yet you continuously ignore me. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

And by the way, you really should care. I've been on Wikipedia far longer than you, so I have a pretty good idea as to what is and isn't allowed. If you continue creating unnecessary pages and adding unnecessary information and speculation, I will not hesitate going to the admins. Just because you think it's right, does not mean it is right. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 20:04, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Quit it

Please stop deleting Freddy Fazbear from the Freddy disambiguation page. Freddy Fazbear is an acclaimed fictional character, and what you said about him will be irrelevant in a year or so after the movie comes out. Again I say, please stop. Batman2297 (talk) 03:07, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I have said it once and I will say it again: it is unnecessary. There is no reason to include it on the Freddy page. People have done it before and each time it has gotten removed. Maybe once the movie comes out it will be considered necessary, but until then, it is not. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Letting you know

Hey, it's Batman2297 again. I've come to the realization that my article, List of Five Nights at Freddy's characters, really doesn't belong here. It belongs in the FNaF wiki. Just letting you know that I myself tagged it for deletion, under the concern that the article contains too much original research and does not cite any references. Batman2297 (talk) 13:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for letting me know. And also, over the last couple weeks, I realize that I might have been a bit harsh towards you for creating all of the FNAF-related pages, and now that I think about it, I might have seemed like a bit of a jerk. I know that you had good intentions, so I apologize. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 14:45, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

{ping|Killerwhale24680} No need to apologize. You were right in telling me that FNaF pages don't belong here in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batman2297 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thanks again for letting me know. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Reverting for no reason

Hi Killerwhale24680,

Check twice before hitting the revert button. "There was a lot of unnecessary typos and changes in there..."? Typos of course would be unnecessary to begin with, but "and" to "an" is one you could've done easily yourself, and not undoing my version altogether.

Just by taking a quick glance you can easily I've made no unnecessary changes. iOS in the latest version shouldn't be italicized. By putting 'none' in the spin-off field, 'none' shows up. If the field is left empty, it won't show up. Left over <small></small> was still in the infobox too. I think "saga" is hyperbolic. Horror game redirects to survival horror, so that's what the piped link is for. These are video games to begin with, to distinguish them from any other type of game. "The games in the Five Nights at Freddy's series are horror-theme [sic] titles" is just odd phrasing and was missing the letter "d". A slash ("/") could mean 'or', but 'and' is the right word; restaurant and an arcade. The word 'also' simply isn't needed that often. That the games are well-received from "fans" isn't necessary to mention per WP:VG/MOS, it's about the critical reception.

I'm having a hard time assuming good faith here, as I've made one typo. I noticed that most of your edits concern Five Nights at Freddy's. It's fine that you want to spend most of your time on one subject, but others can help too. --Soetermans. T / C 11:18, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

The same goes for NekoKatsun (talk · contribs). Out of their 412 edits, 45 involved Freddy's. Putting the two revisions side-by-side, you can easy see the changes I've made, and the two of you both reverted unnessarily. If you want to change some wording, go ahead, but it is clear I did not add "a lot of unnecessary typos" or "introduced awkward wording". --Soetermans. T / C 15:26, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

"Typos" might not have been the best word, but even ignoring the few typos, much of the changes you made were unnecessary.

Changing "The cover artwork for the first title" to "Cover of Five Nights at Freddy's" was very pointless, because the way it was written before was completely acceptable.

Changing "Five Nights at Freddy's 3 (iOS)" to " Five Nights at Freddy's 3" was incorrect, because the release of FNAF3 on iOS occurred almost 2 weeks after the PC version, so that was incorrect and therefore, unnecessary.

Changing "The Five Nights at Freddy's series is a saga of indie horror point-and-click games created by Scott Cawthon." to "The Five Nights at Freddy's is an indie survival horror point-and-click video games created by Scott Cawthon." was not only unnecessary, but also grammatically incorrect. It makes no sense to say "The FNAF series is an... video games created by Scott Cawthon".

I guess that your edits to the "Gameplay" section was all appropriate, except you didn't need to remove the word "also".

Removing the spacing from the "Plot" and "Reception" sections also made the paragraphs too long and messed up the organization, so that was unnecessary as well. So the only edits that were not at least partially unnecessary was the edits to "Gameplay".

So in short, although you only made one or two typos, quite a bit of the editing to the article itself (excusing the hyperlink changes and things you added in the infobox) was just unneeded. For simplicity reasons, I undid some changes that had no significance, but you brought up some valid points here, so I left most of your changes there.

And if I seem like I might be trying to claim "ownership" on the pages about the games, then I apologize, because that is not my intention. I used to edit a lot more pages, but since the release of the games and with news about future sequels, I have been keeping the FNAF pages my top priority. Although this does not apply to everyone, a lot of the fans of the games are either children or bias theorists, so the pages are constantly subject to vandalism, so I try to stay active on them and revert vandalism. Although it's unfortunate, the majority of edits to the pages over the past few months have really been nothing more than vandals, so I have been trying my best to keep on top of it, although I might've gotten a bit carried away at times.. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 19:15, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Killerwhale24680,

Sorry for my late reply.

• WP:IBX: "Infoboxes may tend towards greater abbreviation than that generally used in article bodies". Starting the caption with "The" isn't necessary, cover artwork and cover are the same thing, only the latter is shorter.
• WP:ITALICS: "Italic type (...) should be used for (...) video games" and WP:MOST: "Computer and video games (but not other software)". iOS isn't written in italics, so that's why I removed the piped link, because that only linked to the main article of Freddy's 3. I'll change it later to put iOS out of the linnk.
• I now see why you consider the opening sentence to be incorrect; I forgot "series" before. It is however hyperbolic by calling four games a "saga". I forgot to make a piped link from [[Survival horror|horror]], I'll add that too.
• That there is no need to remove the word "also" doesn't mean it should stay there either. "Also" usually doesn't any meaning to a text.

Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it. I actually got a couple of the Freddy's protected, it that's still needed we can always ask for another edit protection. --Soetermans. T / C 06:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I've just edited the article, I it's okay by both our wishes. I also expanded a bit on the lead, as it lacked a description of the series in general and how they were received. --Soetermans. T / C 06:49, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Thank you for letting me know, and thanks for not completely reverting all of the edits I had done. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 21:58, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Constructive editing

I appreciate your edits to improve language on existing material in List of cloned animals in Jurassic Park. If those edits were entered again, separate from any unneeded trivia added to an already over-stuffed article, the constructive edits would likely be accepted. Thanks. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 19:35, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't exactly see any "unconstructive editing" in any of what I added. I agree that some of what I did before might have been too trivial, but I already stopped adding that. And I also agree that the article itself is way too overstuffed and that some information need to be cut, but what you reverted from my edit was pretty much entirely either language improvements or non-trivial information. The only way I could try to reduce it is by removing important information. If there is any specific information which is unconstructive or too trivial, please point it out to me. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 21:42, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

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So, what exactly am I supposed to do when "make a version that represents consensus among editors" and "discuss, not edit-war" does nothing except result in plain rudeness and insulting from a rollbacker of all people? Killerwhale24680 (talk) 22:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

You know, you are right to have called me out on being rude. I apologize, unreservedly.

As far as the edits themselves go, there were two specific issues:

1) If you read the section above on your talk page, there isn't really a consensus to point to per the hidden note on those pages. From a stranger's eye, it looks like two people disagreed, and one made a decision after the discussion was over.

2) If we were to include such a message for every minor character, less than notable person, place, or thing that had been removed from a disambiguation page, then such a list would eventually be too long to read. We just deal with this sort of thing through editor vigilance, and who knows? - there might come a time when something on such a list becomes notable, and is not included because of a note left years earlier.

For full disclosure, I don't play video games, and am thoroughly unfamiliar with these characters. I only connected to them because there was a spate of vandalism on Scott Cawthon's page, and it's all on my watchlist now. The reason why I have rollback privileges (which I never requested, but were granted with other privileges) is that I have proven to someone that I won't vandalize the project... At least, I haven't yet - not intentionally. But most of my time is spent dealing with vandals and POV pushers, and I was grouchy by the end of that session. You did not deserve unkind words, and I - again - offer my apologies to you. Scr★pIron^IV 18:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Ah, it's alright. I apologize to if my edits were a bit unnecessary or uncalled for; I just never really saw a reason why they were removed. But now that you've explained it more, it makes sense. And I know we all have some grouchy times or bad days, so consider it all forgiven. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 00:22, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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Sorry, my bad! I'll keep this in mind in the future; thanks! VSatire (talk) 20:28, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

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Bay Colony Railroad

The Federal Register source you cited doesn't actually indicate when the transfer of assets and operations did or will take place; it only indicates that an agreement had been reached. Youtube videos by railfans are generally not reliable sources - see WP:USERGENERATED. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:34, 17 December 2023 (UTC)