Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bumblebee (Transformers Animated)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. A cursory review of the article reveals virtually zero information that would be useful in a merge, a redirect is likely not useful because the title is not plausible as a search term, and the consensus below is clearly that the Transformers Animated version of Bumblebee does not require his own article. lifebaka++ 19:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bumblebee (Transformers Animated)

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I decided that this article needs at the minimum needs a deletion because myself and User talk:Mathewignash have debated adnauseum the notability of such articles to a standstill. But there is a lack of sufficient third person sources to justify a spin off Bumblebee article. Dwanyewest (talk) 05:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Although editors should be aware of Wikipedia's systemic bias against Transformers, this particular article should be deleted. There is no evidence of independent notability for this version of the character, and the majority of the article is composed of un-encyclopaedic levels of detail. (It would rarely be appropriate to detail the plot of every episode a character has appeared in, or exhaustively list all of their appearances, and certainly not for a character sub-version with so minor an impact on the public consciousness.) - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above, if someone wants to keep it it should be on wikis related to transformers, Sadads (talk) 02:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/Speedy Close - This nomination was done in bad faith in order for the nominator to bypass normal channels and get his way with a merger proposal. The nominator of this article already has a proposed merger of this article goingand now he attempts to propose a deletion in order to FORCE the outcome in his merger. He did not propose this deletion because he legitimately wants the article deleted, but to get his way. If he wants more opinions for the proposed merger, then he should ask for those and get it through properly. Mathewignash (talk) 02:52, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AfD takes priority over merge discussions. If the article is fundamentally not encyclopaedic content, it should be deleted, not merged. - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No one made the assetion that the article was unencyclopedic. The article was nominated because the nominator claimed it lacked sufficient reliable third party sources to stand alone, but since he seems to WANT a merger, then he didn't nominate FOR DELETION in good faith. If you want an article merged, you propose a MERGER not a DELETION.Mathewignash (talk) 03:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't want the article merged. I don't think it contains any encyclopaedic content; it's entirely made up of trivia or inappropriately fine detail, and doesn't cover a notable incarnation of the character. If you're worried about the bad faith of the nominator, save us all the trouble of a procedural close and immediate renomination by pretending I'm the nominator, and deal with my arguments. - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:21, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to a single article on Bumblebee the Transformer. We don't need more than one article on a character, no matter how many iterations of a franchise it's been in. I'll note that we manage to fit Doctor (Doctor Who) into a single article (well, mostly, at any rate). Jclemens (talk) 07:02, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Doctor Who is much of an example to be citing when it comes to arguing about the excesses of Transformers articles on Wikipedia. There are seperate articles for the doctor, his vehicles, his sonic screwdriver, and every episode and book in the series. If we used it as an example we would need an article about Bumblebee's laser pistol and his helicopter backpack, as well as one for every episode of the Transformers TV series and one for every Transformers book. 198.51.174.5 (talk) 14:02, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Bumblebee (Transformers), for now at least. Harry Blue5 (talk) 11:03, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to a single Bumblebee article for now. It's possible this should be deleted altogether, with the Bumblebee article pruned. But for the sake of building a consensus, let's take a compromise approach to dealing with unsourced plot-heavy material. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this article and merge anything useful to the main Bumblebee article. There's not a lot to move over, however.Cúchullain ^t/c 13:40, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.