1. Article was deleted after having been previously undeleted, see [Uwadi] and the administrator who made the final deletion did not consider my contest on the article's talk page.
2. Article have been recreated twice meaning the subject is notable enough considering the article has an entry on Hausa Wikipedia.
3. There are enough sources used during the most recent recreation and if it is believed the article does not meet WP:NOTABILITY, I am also separately requesting for the article to be restored to a draft for further improvement.
4. The article was nominated for speedy deletion under G4 simply because the editor who placed the template for speedy deletion realized the article was recreated and not that the article does not meet WP:NOTABILITY as the consensus for its earlier deletions.Jõséhola19:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse. The article was last deleted in a 2023 AfD. The AfD has not been seriously challenged. It doesn't matter what happened before that AfD. The G4 was presumably correct assuming that the content was sufficiently identical. Everything was done correctly.—Alalch E.19:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then how on earth did they end up so similar? Example paragraph, afd version on the left, yours on the right:
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He is one of the popularvoices in Nigeria thatdrives social change through social media and isalsoanoutspoken critic of several governors of Imo State and some Nigerian Presidents. Uwadi spearheadedviciousnewspaperchroniclesofGovernorRochasOkorocha's"sins"andattackson the governorfrom2011to2019. He alsocriticizedthegovernmentofEmekaIhedioha in ImoState. Hehasplayedactiverolesin campaign for good governance and youth employment in Nigeria, including the struggle against human rights violations and neglect of the oil producing areas of Imo State. When anOwerri-based social crusader, Citizen Ikenna Samuelson Iwuoha and his wife werefalsely accused of murder and arrested on 3June 2014, he wasinvolvedin the struggle for their release.
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He is one of the most influential people in Nigeria who is bringing about social change through social media and a critic of many governors of Imo state and other Nigerian presidents. Uwadi led the infamous newspaper history of the "sins" of Governor Rochas Okorocha. He played a prominent role in the campaign for good governance and youth employment in Nigeria, including the struggle against human rights abuses and neglect of the oil producing areas in Imo state. When a social crusader in Owerri, Citizen Ikenna Samuelson Iwuoha and his wife were accused of murder and arrested on June 3, 2014, he joined the struggle for their release.
If those were produced solely from the sources rather than one from the other, then both versions are copyright infringement. —Cryptic23:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Allow Restoration of draft, although the originator of an article should keep a copy of it on their computer, especially if there might be a challenge. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose that because it's a bad WP:BLP, in which the only sources are articles he wrote, which has Flowery text and iffy sources, and is possibly even G11 (quoting from the AfD). As non-policy-compliant content, and given that the BLP policy applies to drafts, it is not suitable for undeletion even as a draft. —Alalch E.21:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't address any of those concerns. A topic can be notable and the article can have "flowery text and iffy sources". A completely new article is needed. —Alalch E.06:54, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first AfD can not be reviewed anymore because there is a newer AfD. The 1st one could have been the worst, the most tainted, the least policy-based discussion ever: It can't be overturned to keep because the article was deleted in a subsequent AfD. It is only that last AfD's close that can be overturned. —Alalch E.06:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse and deny draftification. The AfD was decided unanimously. The appellant brings up no policy based argument for overturning the result. Their claim about the recreation is clearly bogus, as Cryptic's diff demonstrates. And the comment about invalidating the AfD because there were no "Nigerian contributors on deciding its notability" is either a gross misunderstanding of WP:OR and how the project works, or else is plain old bigotry. Owen×☎22:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse deletion but do draftify. The AFD conclusion was seemingly valid (and no real arguments have been advanced to the contrary), but I am very sensitive to concerns that Engish Wikipedia defaults to an overly developed-world view and may tend to implicitly devalue reasonable sources from elsewhere in the world, and so wrongly deny notablity to non-developed-world subjects. However, whether or not uninvolved Nigerians participated in the deletion discussion, there's been no indication that enough independent, reliable, secondary sources exist to meet en.wp notability requirements and support an article on en.wp. I've passed the Hausa wikipedia entry through Google Translate, and all the sources there are primary and/or mention the subject in passing (as an author of a press release, for instance) and whether or not they are acceptable on the Hausa wikipedia, they are not sufficient here. So deletion here is correct, in line with the AFD discussion. That said, while I can't see the deleted version(s) here, it looks from the quotes above that both incarnations may be strongly based on the Hausa wikipedia version, which is an eminently reasonable starting point for someone to try to develop and en.wp policy-compliant article. So I see no reason to deny the request to draftify, and let those interested continue their efforts. (I'm also inclined to accept the explanation that both deleted incarnations of the article here may simply be based on separate instances of someone translating the Hausa wp article text.) Martinp (talk) 10:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
