User talk:MaEr

Horacio Lengo (Q5901917)

Can you explain this edit to me?—Totemkin (talk) 15:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Because that's not redundant, you can hang by yourself (suicide) or you can be hung because of your crimes, by other person (death penalty).—Totemkin (talk) 15:49, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

According to Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P1196#.22Single_value.22_violations and Property_talk:P1196, there should be only one value. Hanging (especially hanging one self) would be Property:P509. --MaEr (talk) 15:56, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Why?

I don't understand this. There is no explanation. Property P1080 indicate the narrative or fictional universe of the element. And the narrative universe of all works in the Firefly/Serenity franchise is the Serenityverse. I don't have the faintest idea why you would revert that. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 13:38, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I cannot add explanations to edits.

I have been going through this list: Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P1080, where this data object was listed. As I read Property talk:P1080, this property is for fictional characters and objects, not for real persons and objects.

--MaEr (talk) 13:45, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I reverted, to keep the property as long we don't have an alternative property to store the information

(addendum after your edit) We so need a property to link the object to a fictionnal universe in such a case. --Dereckson (talk) 13:47, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I think we have this property already: Property:P361 (part of), which has the value Firefly (Q5451845).

I still believe that Property:P1080 is for fictional stuff, like fictional TV series.

--MaEr (talk) 13:54, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, the discussion is open here : Wikidata talk:WikiProject Fictional universes#What property to set the fictional universe for a work?. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 14:19, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Indeed, to distinguish between the franchise elements and the fictional universe items could be interesting.

That would allow to generate a list of each items of a fictional universe, from an internal point of view.

A quick review of the pertinence of part of should be done, to identify the cases were it's a little bit problematic to have several part of properties for a franchise element. --Dereckson (talk) 14:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC)