User talk:Ortano
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Best regards! DSGalaktos (talk) 15:43, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Names
[edit]Hi! Thank you so much for your work on names. I ask you to be careful however because sometimes you correct obviously wrong values with less obviously but also wrong values (which just makes these errors harder to spot). For example, you corrected the wrong use of a poet by a given name here, but it was the wrong given name: she is named "Corinne" and not "Corinna". Much harder to detect!
You tend to use Latin-script names for people who obviously didn't have Latin-script names, but Cyrillic or Arabic ones. These are not the same. Сергей isn't Sergei for example. The property you should check before using is native label (P1705). I'm on the mind that it's somewhat better to temporarily use wrong items like disambiguation pages which are so obviously wrong we know we have to correct it quickly rather than to "correct" with near-values-but-still-wrong given names which are really really difficult to detect and correct after. We are still missing names and we regularly have to create the missing items before being able to correct those errors.
Thank you for your understanding. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 08:21, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Harmonia Amanda: Ok, so taking Eliska Vincent (Q16058886) you would suggest to create a new given name "Eliska" that is then linked to Disambiguation page for Eliška with "different from" like given name Eliška? --Ortano (talk) 12:00, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly! And when you are creating the new name, don't forget to add native label (P1705) and writing system (P282) too. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 12:04, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Harmonia Amanda: So Herman Bidolakh (Q28522183) and Rayna (Q11346449) is the better way? --Ortano (talk) 12:41, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Way better but we shouldn't use Cyrillic-script labels in Latin-script languages. An example of a "clean" given name would be Anna (Q22713652): correct properties, original name in aliases for all languages, original name present in the description and label are either the original name for languages using the same script or the most frequent transliteration for languages using other scripts. I cleaned up this one to show you. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 12:56, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Harmonia Amanda: So Herman Bidolakh (Q28522183) and Rayna (Q11346449) is the better way? --Ortano (talk) 12:41, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly! And when you are creating the new name, don't forget to add native label (P1705) and writing system (P282) too. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 12:04, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Arguable deletions of country qualifiers
[edit]See User talk:Ortano/CountryQualifiers. --Infovarius (talk) 12:04, 30 March 2017 (UTC)