Talk:2021 Kerala Legislative Assembly election

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Section sizes

Section size for 2021 Kerala Legislative Assembly election (30 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	6,627	6,627
Background	1,499	10,132
Changes in alliance compositions	2,965	2,965
2020 local elections	2,764	2,764
2021	2,904	2,904
Schedule	1,233	1,233
Parties and alliances	593	10,535
Left Democratic Front markup removed; cannot link (help)	3,822	3,822
United Democratic Front markup removed; cannot link (help)	3,167	3,167
National Democratic Alliance markup removed; cannot link (help)	2,953	2,953
Campaign	3,954	3,954
Candidates	5,682	5,682
Opinion polls	14,452	23,860
Asianet News–C fore Survey (July 2020)	9,408	9,408
Exit polls	7,422	7,422
Election	15	947
Voting	932	932
Result	11	99,636
Summary	11,884	11,884
By alliance	6,311	6,311
By region	664	664
By district	1,659	1,659
By constituency	79,107	79,107
By-elections	2,167	2,167
Aftermath	17	6,221
Government formation	2,313	2,313
Kodakara hawala scandal	2,281	2,281
Other events	1,610	1,610
Notes	24	24
References	238	238
Total	178,678	178,678

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Vandalism

Some anonymous users are trying to vandalise opinion poll section Rufyrosh (talk) 16:54, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Parties and alliances; Male and female candidates

Is it necessary to include the percentage of seats contested by males and females? Since there is a column for the number of male and female candidates, I think a separate column for percentage is excessive detailing. I am removing that column for now; please discuss if someone wants to add it back. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 09:35, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Independents backed by NDA

Is it needed to not include independent candidates of NDA in the respective columns? My point of contention being, as far as independents are concerned, even in the case of LDF and UDF independents, they too are backed by the alliance, although the only difference in NDA's case was the with the rejection of the initial candidates. DogeChungus (talk) 12:21, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring with regards to tables of address and constituency wise results

In my opinion, it's better to make the table with address of candidates into another article, and then link it to this article. I've done the same for constituency wise results (See: Draft:Performance of candidates from major alliances of the 2021 Kerala Legislative Assembly election, can only make it out of draft when result comes, please contribute there). Hence I'm reverting that table back to winner-runner up one. User:Josy_Joykutty User:Satya_prakasham User:Rufyrosh User:Manish9893 DogeChungus (talk) 05:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The candidacies should be in a separate article altogether, which should be linked here. Onetwothreeip (talk) 01:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Better would be adding the data in wikidata are reusing it here and malayalam wikipedia. -- naveenpf (talk) 11:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting this article

This article is one of the longest on the wiki, with 435,297 bytes, so I propose that we split this article. After looking at the section sizes, we may be able to split this not once, but twice:

The Candidates section is currently 344,087 bytes long, so if we split that into its own page this article will have 92,210.
Furthermore, we could split the List of Contestants for Kerala Legislative Assembly Election 2021 from the separate Candidates page into its own article, as that subsection has 291,753 bytes. That will leave the separate Contestants page with 52,334 bytes.

So here is how the splitting will work:

This article -> List of 2021 Kerala Legislative Assembly Election candidates -> List of Contestants for Kerala Legislative Assembly Election 2021 (the subsection is already called that)

However, the second page may need a better name. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:01, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this proposal, although the person who took the effort of making that huge candidate's list did not specify any source. Highly doubt admins approve that article due to it. DogeChungus (talk) 12:30, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I don't agree with this proposal for the reason being its more convenient to have it this way. We can change it a month or so after the results are announced. --Sitaphul (talk) 13:03, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

True, I actually did not think of that. Maybe we can wait a while but if the page gets to like 500,000 bytes then we should definitely do something. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:06, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blubabluba9990, Im not familiar with splitting. Other wise I would have done it boldly without waiting for consensus. This is too long to read easily. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 11:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not either, because I am kind of new to Wikipedia. But yeah, this could use a split. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:07, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Length of the article-

For a state election, hasn't the article become way too long and exessively detailed? I suggest removing the section 'List of Contestants for Kerala Legislative Assembly Election 2021' is it is a repetition of 'List of contestants from major alliances' which has both the alliance and individual party. The only difference is that the names of several independent candidates have been added- something which is not done for any election in India (at least at legislature level) --YoYoRockNRoll (talk) 15:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I suggested splitting this too, however I was told that we should wait until the results are complete in order to make it more convenient. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Make Kerala page similar as other assembly election pages

For all the other election pages - Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, etc. we have a section in the table for party but not alliance. I can understand why it might be better in Kerala's case to have an alliance section in constituency result pages but I don't think it's needed. Also, like other tables relating to parties, we should not be using the legend template to display party colours. Create a separate column with nothing in it and have it filled with party colours. This is how all election results have been formatted in 2016 elections for Kerala and in other states. C1MM (talk) 14:19, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

C1MM, this needs to be splitted. Sometimes I cant even load this in my phone due to low connectivity issues. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 11:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

C1MM, not giving the alliance information would not make sense in Kerala's political context. The Nationalist Congress Party is in the Left front, the Communist Marxist Party is in the United Front, etc. I think we should put making this page useful to readers over enforcing uniform standards. - Jose Mathew (talk) 16:06, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Constituency Map

Hi, I've added a constituency-wise result map, based on the one in 2016 Kerala Legislative Assembly election. Please see it and tell me if there are any mistakes or improvements. - Jose Mathew (talk) 16:08, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The map seems like it has not been updated. If that's true, then it is not an improvement. But if you could update it, it would help.

Last revision of the map: 13:45, 12 November 2020

Edit: sorry, my bad

Interesting Geek (talk) 14:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jose Mathew 72-Chalakkudy was won by INC, please do correct it! DogeChungus (talk) 07:34, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DogeChungus: Fixed, thank you! - Jose Mathew (talk) 18:12, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

@DogeChungus: & @ChandlerMinh:, I replaced the old infobox, which was a complete mess with fields mixed up and no space in between. Please do not edit the structure unless you know what you are doing - it is a pain to fix later on! Please add any information you have to the new version. (Also please do not make edits that break other parts of the article.) Finally, should we keep NDA in the infobox? They got 11-13% of the vote, but did not win any seats. Thoughts? - Jose Mathew (talk) 05:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, article gives significant focus on NDA in other sections, would be fair to indicate that they lost their seat beforehand. DogeChungus (talk) 05:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll add NDA data from previous versions. - Jose Mathew (talk) 06:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Block colours and EC Map colours - Alignment

It is better if the colours used in tables to represent parties are aligned with the colours used in the EC results map.
Anish Viswa 10:40, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Splitting proposal

Per the WP:Article size guideline, at 220k bytes this article is "almost certainly" in need of splitting. As such, I propose that we split the Results section off to its own article titled Results of the 2021 Kerala Legislative Assembly election. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 00:37, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TheSandDoctor, "List of contestants from major alliances". I have moved the table of candidates to List of candidates in the 2021 Kerala Legislative Assembly election. There is already a detailed table with runner ups in the result section. Readers can refer that if they want to look up candidates of any constituency. Result is more important. As a result the article is 25% slimmer without any loss of useful content for the reader. I believe the split is no longer needed. Would you agree to remove the split tag from the article now? --Venkat TL (talk) 09:10, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Venkat TL: I have gone ahead and removed it. Thank you for your your work splitting and trimming. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:40, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TheSandDoctor thank you for your agreement. Venkat TL (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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