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[edit]it is strange that you have omited the name of muttathu varkey in the list of famous malayalam writers. it was he who taught the average malayali to read. pity that you forgot his famous books like "padatha painkili" and "enapravukal".(unsigned)
This article was nominated for speedy deletion. I explained its context but it still needs work notably wikification and verification. Capitalistroadster 06:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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[edit]This article has been created by vested interest elements and need to be removed. It is strange to note that among all the Indian languages, only in case of Malayalam, the names of poets have been classified into various categories to ensure that some self-styled non-poets stylize themselves as (post-modernist) poets. This is disastrous for Malayalam poetry...
some inclusions
[edit]There are some non-notable names in the list of post modern poets like Vallikkod Vikraman, S. Jithesh and unnikrishnan poozhikkad. Kunjappa Pattanoor and Suresh Nooranadu are generally not considered as post-modern poets, even if they have written some collections of poems.
Some notable names like T. P. Rajeevan, P. A. Nasimudin, V. M. Girija, Veerankutty, Sebastian, A. C. Sreehari, Mohanakrishnan Kaladi and M. B. Manoj are not included in the list.Raziakk 18:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Really a worthy effort. U have included apt names.Congrats Raziakk...! I like Veeran's poem.Manthrikan is his finest work. But Suresh Nooranadu and S. jithesh surely comes under the category of post modern poets. Jithesh poem 'Narayude Swakaryangal' (Mathrubhumi Weekly) is a finest example of post modern poety. Please read his latest poem in Veekshanam Onappathippu 2006. Almost all poems of Suresh nooranadu are post -modern.His collected works also comes under that category. Vallikkode Vikraman is now notable in the field of tv serials. He is the script writer of K.K. Rajeev serials in Miniscreen(asianet).Once he was a good poet,no doubt. Now he abandoned poetry. I like Pavithran theekkuni's poems. I have included his name.Adv. P. R. Bijuchandran 07:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
some inclusions
[edit]Thank you Bijuchandran. Pavithran Theekkuni is already included in the previous list. I will not neglect S. Jithesh as a cartoonist, but I am suspecious about his relevance as a poet. Hundreds of poets writing poetry today, but we have to select the most relevant names only, I think. I am sure you can contribute to this encyclopedia by writing more on the mentioned poets and other remarkable names. Raziakk 11:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
m b manoj is the one of the popular writer in Kerala, India. He is the thinker,activist, poet, novelist, critic, and short story writer. he wrote 25-books.he published four poem collections , Koottanthathayude Ezhupathu Varshangal, Kaanunneeloraksharavum, Munkalukal Kooltikkettiya Nadathakkar, Paave Paave Pokavenda. Name of his novel is Jaaga, and Mariya Irudhaya is the collection of stories. m b manoj is the dalit poet in malayalam. He wrote the culture and politics of Dalit life. his poems are highley social criticism of Indian caste system and divisional life. His another well known poem is Kanunniloraksharavum (No Alphabet in Sight). his novel Jaaga told the hostel life of Dalit students in a college. They demolished and threterned the mainstream students onganization in Kerala campus. He published various academic article in various subjects, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr m b manoj kerala (talk • contribs) 09:25, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
Susmesh Chandroth and S. Jithesh
[edit]Susmesh Chandroth is a good post-modern writer. I'm including his name in Post-modern fiction. His book 'D'(published by D.C Books) is a special one. Susmesh has written the script of film Pakal. Gireesh Puthenchery is the person who told me about the poetry of S. Jithesh. Jithesh's poem 'Mazha' which won the first prize in the contest organised by the Mathrubhumi weekly magazine in 90's. His book 'Nakshathrangale Pranayicha Oraal' reveals the beauty of enchanting diction.I have read philosophical thoughts and visions of Jithesh in Samakalika Malayalam Weekly. Very much impressive. See this - [1] Nileena joseph 07:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
some inclusions
[edit]I will try to read S. Jithesh more. I will not argue against him if he has done some good works for I haven't any particular bias. I said so because several names like P. N. Gopeekrishnan, Sailan, Rammohan Paliath, Sreekumar Kariyad, Jayan K. C and S. Kannan are yet to be included. But before it we have to work more on Modern poets because several established writers haven't even a page in wikipedia. Let us work more. Thank you!Raziakk 07:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
U r right. Sailan is a good poet. I was a reader of his mini magazine Thakara. His book Sivakami is with me. Recently he published a poem in Mathrubhumi.I have read it. Jayan K.C is an American pravasi poet.His name is also familiar to me. But I 'm not familiar with Rammohan and Sreekumar. Please work more for wikipedia. Ur presence is a must in wikipedia. Those who love poetry and arts must do something inorder to increase informations on Malayalam literature. My best wishes.Nileena joseph 18:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Rafeeq Ahammed and Prabha Varma
[edit]We have to note these two poets. Their poetry is very nice. Raakkilithan.....novin perumazhakkalam....! How is the lyrics ? It's written by Rafeeq Ahammed. His poems are superb. Please try to create a page ... Nileena joseph 16:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject Dravidian civilizations
[edit]Wiki Raja 10:22, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- here is the proper link: Wikipedia:WikiProject Dravidian civilizations.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:31, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Disastrous!
[edit]Quality-wise the article is a disaster; basically, it is nothing but a list of names. Literature is not exactly my field of interest, but its shameful to leave such an important article like that. On a sharp contrast, see the kind of work gone into Tamil literature. I am always wlling to help, and let me know what you think.--Anoopkn (talk) 13:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- at first glance, i would say this needs to be renamed "list of Malayalam writers", but it still has too many redlinks. i can probably do the work on renaming it, but i have no actual knowledge of malayalam literature, so i couldnt create the article (and im not experienced enough to research an article on such a subject, esp knowing no malayalam). i say, be bold and write at least a stub article on malayalam literature. if you dont know moves, renaming, etc. just put it here at the top, and ill eventually split off the list with just a brief sentence at the top saying what it is, with a link to this article. no rush.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your efforts at adding context to this list. I dont think ill split off the list from the article. seems like a lot of work for no solid benefit, and the article seems fine as it is. i have, however, added some guidelines for adding names, which are generally found on many list type articles. for anyone regularly adding to or watching this article, if you can add refs for redlinks or nonlinked names, great. otherwise, i will be trimming out redlinks and nonlinked names, per general WP guidelines. remember, someone may know full well that any particular person is highly notable in this field, but if a citation isnt given, its really meaningless for it to be here. i know some lists become research/reference tools for people passionate about a subject, but WP is NOT a place for people to write lists to help them with research, or to use as a reference for an entire field, including obscure details. do the research outside this article, determine who is notable, then add names. adding the names of major critiques, histories, encyclopedias, academic sites dealing with Malayalam literature in the References section is all we need to make this article helpful to scholars. the article itself is just a starting point.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- as i said, i have removed redlinks and nonlinked names. none of them had references. anyone who wants to add them back, the names are still in the edit history. just select them, find a reference for notability, add the name and the reference in. or, of course, write an article. i did not check to see if the redlinked names existed on WP already, under, say slightly different spellings. that really should be the job of anyone thinking of adding a name to this list anyway. sorry again if anyones toes were stepped on, but this is the standard for such articles. and thanks again to anoopkn for making a good effort at helping the article.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:20, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your efforts at adding context to this list. I dont think ill split off the list from the article. seems like a lot of work for no solid benefit, and the article seems fine as it is. i have, however, added some guidelines for adding names, which are generally found on many list type articles. for anyone regularly adding to or watching this article, if you can add refs for redlinks or nonlinked names, great. otherwise, i will be trimming out redlinks and nonlinked names, per general WP guidelines. remember, someone may know full well that any particular person is highly notable in this field, but if a citation isnt given, its really meaningless for it to be here. i know some lists become research/reference tools for people passionate about a subject, but WP is NOT a place for people to write lists to help them with research, or to use as a reference for an entire field, including obscure details. do the research outside this article, determine who is notable, then add names. adding the names of major critiques, histories, encyclopedias, academic sites dealing with Malayalam literature in the References section is all we need to make this article helpful to scholars. the article itself is just a starting point.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Names put back without references
[edit]Names in the translators section were put back without any indication of notability. if they dont have articles, they need at least an external link or a reference to printed material, indicating their notability as translators into Malayalam. Please add a reference for each name added back. otherwise i will probably have to delete them per WMOS. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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Orphaned references in Malayalam literature
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Malayalam literature's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Malabar":
- From Old Malayalam: Aiyer, K. V. Subrahmanya (ed.), South Indian Inscriptions. VIII, no. 162, Madras: Govt of India, Central Publication Branch, Calcutta, 1932. p. 69.
- From Malayalam: Sreedhara Menon, A. (January 2007). Kerala Charitram (2007 ed.). Kottayam: DC Books. p. 27. ISBN 978-81-264-1588-5. Retrieved 19 July 2020.
- From History of Kerala: Sreedhara Menon, A. (January 2007). Kerala Charitram (2007 ed.). Kottayam: DC Books. ISBN 9788126415885. Retrieved 19 July 2020.
- From Perinthalmanna: 1951 census handbook - Malabar district (PDF). Chennai: Government of Madras. 1953. pp. 1–2.
- From Kingdom of Tanur: A. Shreedhara Menon, A Survey of Kerala History
- From Kerala: Sreedhara Menon, A. (2007). Kerala Charitram (2007 ed.). Kottayam: DC Books. ISBN 978-8126415885. Retrieved 19 July 2020.
- From Middle Malayalam: Sreedhara Menon, A. (2007). Kerala Charitram (2007 ed.). Kottayam: DC Books. ISBN 978-8126415885.
- From South Malabar: Menon, A. Sreedhara (2007). A Survey of Kerala History. DC Books. ISBN 9788126415786.
- From Malappuram district: 1951 census handbook - Malabar district (PDF). Chennai: Government of Madras. 1953. p. 1.
- From Palakkad: A Survey of Kerala History, A. Shreedhara Menon
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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