Template:Did you know nominations/Geothermal energy in Turkey
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 19:54, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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Geothermal energy in Turkey
... that people have been enjoying balneotherapy from geothermal energy in Turkey since the Romans?Source: Hierapolis is an exceptional example of a Greco-Roman thermal installation established on an extraordinary natural site. The therapeutic virtues of the waters were exploited at the various thermal installations, which included immense hot basins and pools for swimming.[ https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/485/
Improved to Good Article status by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC).
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - There are a few lines that could do with tweaking from the source. See earwig
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - The wording of the hook feels clunky and would be interested in seeing some alts
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed:
- Used in article:
- Clear at 100px: - The picture isn't the greatest of images at a small resolution but I guess its not a blocker to the nom
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: better hook and fixing some of the close paraphrasing and we are good! Seddon talk 02:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Could not find a better pic sorry but fixed copyvio (I think - Earwig is not working for me right now)Chidgk1 (talk) 11:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the Romans enjoyed balneotherapy from geothermal energy in Turkey? Source: Hierapolis is an exceptional example of a Greco-Roman thermal installation established on an extraordinary natural site. The therapeutic virtues of the waters were exploited at the various thermal installations, which included immense hot basins and pools for swimming. https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/485/
ALT2 ... that to effect greenhouse warming global hottest is geothermal energy in Turkey? (will cite if you like it) Chidgk1 (talk) 11:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that reinjection is good protection, against a greenhouse effect when effecting greenhouse warming? (will cite if you like it) Chidgk1 (talk) 13:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT4 ... that, for hot Turkey, to avoid passing foul-smelling gas and annoying people nearby it is important to make sure we have reinjection.
- ALT1 is the same as the main hook, so no need to repeat it. ALT2-4 seem to be Google-translated and make no sense for me. The fourth translation is even somewhat funny when you think of it. I can't speak Turkish, but maybe someone else can help you out. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 08:39, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Szmenderowiecki: ALT2-4 are aimed at native English speakers like me. So they are kind of puzzles which make no sense at first, so readers might be tempted to click to find out the meaning. ALT2 looks like a word salad reversing "greenhouse effect" and "global warming" but means that there are more geothermally heated greenhouses in Turkey than elsewhere in the world. ALT3 rhymes in the first clause and then reverses "greenhouse effect": meaning is that the CO2 must be put back in ground. ALT4 is supposed to make schoolkids think of farting: meaning is that hydrogen sulphide should be put back in ground. Chidgk1 (talk) 11:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
@Seddon: I just noticed you are an ex-geologist. As well as checking above hooks, if you have time could you tell me whether the geology parts of the article could be improved at all? Chidgk1 (talk) 11:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hmm, @Chidgk1 while I don't doubt your language proficiency, I must admit that I would have assumed ALT2-4 to be google translations as well – and reported them as a main page error, instead of being intrigued by them :/ Which is a shame, because quirkyness is one of the things I like about DYK. But at this level of quirky, they might work for April's fool or something; I think you'd need to make them a little less confusing for non-natives like me. --LordPeterII (talk) 08:23, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Chidgk1 and Seddon: It's been more than a week since even my comment, are you still around? Don't let this become stale as so many noms recently :) --LordPeterII (talk) 10:32, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- @LordPeterII and Seddon: I am available but I thought I was waiting for the reviewer. I thought Seddon is the reviewer or is it you now? Whoever is the reviewer - can we go with ALT1? Chidgk1 (talk) 04:57, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed Seddon is the reviewer, Chidgk1 I just wanted to ping you in case you wanted to rephrase the other ALTs (which may be witty, but too complex). And since I'm not sure Sedon is fine with ALT1, it sounded like he thought it too uninteresting. Anyway, here I suggest yet another hook:
- ALT5: ... that Turkey's direct use of geothermal energy is second only to that of China?
- I'm not sure it's that interesting either, but I'll leave it here to show there's potential for more hooks.--LordPeterII (talk) 10:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed Seddon is the reviewer, Chidgk1 I just wanted to ping you in case you wanted to rephrase the other ALTs (which may be witty, but too complex). And since I'm not sure Sedon is fine with ALT1, it sounded like he thought it too uninteresting. Anyway, here I suggest yet another hook:
- @LordPeterII and Seddon: I am available but I thought I was waiting for the reviewer. I thought Seddon is the reviewer or is it you now? Whoever is the reviewer - can we go with ALT1? Chidgk1 (talk) 04:57, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Chidgk1 and Seddon: It's been more than a week since even my comment, are you still around? Don't let this become stale as so many noms recently :) --LordPeterII (talk) 10:32, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Seddon I hope you are well. Are you happy with any of the ALT hooks? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed, as Seddon has not posted here since their initial review, and only made six edits to Wikipedia in August. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- How about:
- ALT6: " ... that 3% of Turkey's electrical generation capacity smells bad?" -- RoySmith (talk) 14:16, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - the last phrase in "Environmental impact and public opinion" needs a citation.
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- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - I could not find any mention of the Romans in the article, which would disallow ALT1.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: In attempt to make the process clearer I put a strike through the original hook as this seems to have been replaced by ALT1. I also struck ALT2, ALT3, and ALT4 in agreement with the above comments about issues with them. Noting that DYK now shows pictures at slightly more than 100 px I think the image is acceptable for consideration. If a citation can be added to "Environmental impact and public opinion" and the details in ALT1 - personally my favourite hook - added to the article then this is good to go. CSJJ104 (talk) 15:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)