User talk:141.197.12.183

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December 2023

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Douglas Murray (author). Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

While I respect your concerns about sourcing and potential controversy, I strongly disagree with your characterization of my edits as defamatory or policy violations. I'm happy to discuss specific concerns and provide additional references, but I believe blocking editors based on subjective views of 'controversial' stifles open dialogue and diverse perspectives. Wikipedia thrives on constructive debate and collaborative editing, not gatekeeping based on individual opinions.

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory or otherwise controversial content into an article or any other Wikipedia page. Please respect those concerns about sourcing by actually sticking to what is in sources. It is unlikely that there are multiple reliable, secondary sources that describe Murray's views as hateful, and continuing to editorialize in the article without such sources is certainly going to get you blocked. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:15, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://mcb.org.uk/mcb-expresses-shock-at-home-secretary-endorsing-murray-at-dispatch-box/

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/11/douglas-murray-and-john-anderson-islamic-immigration/

https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/factsheet-douglas-murray/

For your own education, since you obviously need a lot of that.

Next time, we will dedicate the appropriate the necessary resources to have your accounts banned for misinformation. 208.87.239.201 (talk) 18:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your recent editing history at Douglas Murray (author) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:16, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

Rather than edit war, you are welcome to make a case for your changes at Talk:Douglas Murray (author)#"Hateful". Please be aware that WP:BLP still applies at talk pages, so bring reliable sources to support your comments. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for violations of Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Ponyo^{bons mots} 18:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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