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The Signpost: 8 June 2024

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The Signpost: 4 July 2024

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July 2024

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Hello! We are allowed to ask other users if they have ever seen anything reliably sourced about info we feel is noticeably, especially remarkably, missing in an article. Please never arbitrarily remove any input on article talk pages which is relevant to article content, whether actual, proposed or missing! SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The thread violated WP:NOTAFORUM and was deleted. If you try to replace it I will report you to administrators. Softlavender (talk) 22:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It did not violate that guideline. If I replace it, your report to admins, which will backfire, would be most welcome. Please never remove any information or question relevant to article content from any article talk page. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Neill

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Re my additions to the article on Sam Neill and the policy on living persons, the Policy page on “Biographies of Living People” says that material “challenged or likely to be challenged” shall be supported by neutral sources; but it does not say that quoting from memoirs is forbidden! Re Sam Neill his memoir would enable me to add that he attended Cashmere and Medbury (primary) schools (4 years?) before attending Christs’ College (secondary school), and also why he transferred from Chritchurch to Wellington to complete his BA!. I suppose that I better not say that he did not enjoy his time at Medbury in case it was challenged, although reporting a personal reaction could be regarded as a fact not an opinion.. I had regarded as Neill’s comments on the two roles when he played Irishmen as of interest as he was born in Northern Ireland , though may omit them. Hugo999 (talk)

Re quoting from memoirs of dead people the WWII diary of Alanbrooke edited and published posthumously in 2001 is regarded as more reliable in recording his frustrations in dealing with Churchill as CIGS of the British armed forces than the extracts published in the 1950s in two books by historian Arthur Bryant; The Turn of the Tide and Triumph in the West. This is because in the 1950s Churchill and others were still alive and might sue. This happened with a biography of Stanley Baldwin (see article on him) by G. M. Young when the publisher had to replace at great expense a section of seven leaves after threats to sue by Churchilll and Lord Beaverbrooke. Hugo999 (talk) 00:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talkpage; please keep the conversation there to keep the conversation together. Softlavender (talk) 00:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 22 July 2024

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Montreal productions

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I just told the guy to do it again with the full cite this time, including page number. Otherwise someone will have to go through this French book looking for the page numbers. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks, no problem. In all honestly on my watchlist I was mistaking the G&S for the Donizetti opera, which is also on my watchlist and which I have edited many times. LOL. Softlavender (talk) 03:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Involvement in arbitration

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I am filling an arbitration case and I mentioned you in it.

Thank you. Wikieditor662 (talk) 21:53, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 14 August 2024

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File:Charleson as Liddell.jpg

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Long time no see. I'd like to PROD this screenshot, but I wanna contact you first instead because you uploaded it years ago. I can see an actor or a character using an umbrella amid a rain. A caption might've clarified what the image is about. Nonetheless, I'm concerned about its ability to contextually signify the whole film Chariots of Fire. George Ho (talk) 23:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At the time it seemed appropriate fair use. It contextualizes the fact that Ian Charleson himself wrote the speech he gave in the film in that scene. Now, with stricter editing values, I can see why it may possibly not seem to meet stricter fair-use guidelines, although you should WP:FFD it rather than WP:PROD, which is only for articles, not files. Softlavender (talk) 23:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hate to disappoint you, but PROD now applies to files since 2017. Why not use {{db-g7}} instead? There've been no substantial changes to the file itself. George Ho (talk) 00:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and the PRODded the file via Twinkle. George Ho (talk) 00:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I see, you challenged the PROD tag. I'd like to take it to FfD, but I'm unsure whether it's worth the time to argue against such use. Well, I uploaded the other image File:Linda hunt billy kwan year of living dangerously.png to primarily display the actress as a male character in a film, not because a character was in a rainy scene with an umbrella without clarifying the readers what it was about. Furthermore, I had to add details in the film article about the casting and costuming. But..... Well, I've not yet seen others challenge such use of the actress's gender-bending scene. --George Ho (talk) 00:38, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Research info from User:Cunard

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(copied from his talkpage)

I find a lot of the sources through databases available through Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library (TWL) as well as other databases I have access to. When searching for sources for AfD, the resources I find most useful are the British Newspaper Archive, EBSCO, Gale (Wikipedia:Gale), ProQuest, and Wikipedia:Newspapers.com, and to a much lesser extent Wikipedia:Newspaperarchive.com. I also have access to NewsBank which The Wikipedia Library is missing. NewsBank frequently has sources that the other databases don't have (and vice versa). Some academic institutions and public libraries grant access to NewsBank. I also do searches on Internet Archive, Google, Google Books, Google News, and Google Scholar.

Using Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oasis (British TV series) as an example: For Oasis (British TV series), I was able to find a television review in The Stage via the British Newspaper Archive and ProQuest as well several articles in Newspapers.com. Compared to to topics with unique names, it was more difficult to find sources for Oasis, which is a common name. I refined the search by searching for "Oasis" and people or topics related to the television series such as "Carlton Television", "Carlton", "ITV", "CITV", "Zenith North", "Dean Gaffney", "John Simm", "Posh Robert", "wasteland", "The Jungle", and "Byker Grove" which helped filter out irrelevant results. Another tip is I used quotation marks around search terms so that the query returned only results with those exact phrases. When there were too many results, I also refined the searches by narrowing search results to the years 1992 to 1994 since the television series aired in 1993. For some topics, I do several combinations of searches in multiple places which is why for some of the harder cases it takes me between one and three hours for source searches.

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The Signpost: 4 September 2024

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Welcome overstayed.

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Find something else to do. Anjkerjeox (talk) 23:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 26 September 2024

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Kurban Said

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Hello, you may not remember me, but we briefly conversed a number of years ago about the article Kurban Said. At the time you indicated that the article has serious POV issues and that you were planning to clean it up. It recently came back around on my list of old POV disputes to examine. There's been a few changes to the article since we last discussed it but not much. What more do you think should be done about the article? Given the low activity on the article, it's possible that you are the most knowledgeable person available to fix it. -- LWG talk 22:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LWG, I haven't been looking at that article for a while. I was interested in it after reading Tom Reiss's book, The Orientalist, which is the definitive biography of Said/Nussimbaum. I really don't have the time or enthusiasm to get back into that dispute right now. Softlavender (talk) 04:01, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 19 October 2024

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Edit War

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Hello, @Softlavender It appears you and me have engaged in an edit war regarding the image on Antony Armstrong-Jones, 1st Earl of Snowdon, I can understand as I have dealt with idiots in portraits before however in a case like this I do think the color image is better as its twice as large, so better quality, and actually in color unlike the one you reverted it to. | image_size = x150px vs Bramnickatriot (talk) 00:58, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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