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Notes to self

Finish Khalid bin Walid
Finish Uthman bin Affan (DONE)
Clean up the bullsh*t on succession to Muhammad
Re-write Muhammad
Get a life
Expand Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan
Expand Al-Walid ibn Abd al-Malik
Expand Sulayman ibn Abd al-Malik
Expand Umar II
No, I mean it, GET A LIFE!
Expand Al-Mansur
Clean up and expand Harun al-Rashid
Clean up and expand Al-Amin and Al-Ma'mun
Expand Al-Mu'tasim
Create the article Juha
Create many article about pre-Islam Arabs
Expand Al-Asma'i
Expand Al-Mutanabbi
Expand Akhtal
Expand Buhturi
Clean up and expand Al-Farazdaq
Expand Hassan ibn Thabit
Expand Imru' al-Qais
Shit this is getting too long
Create Ibn al-Rumi (wtf?!!? how could this be missing from WP !?!?)
Create Ma'ruf al-Rusafi (wtfbfsf !?!?!?!?!??)
Create Abu al-qasim al-Shabbi
Expand Mu'adh ibn Jabal
Should create Least Re-inforcing Scenario (if it dont exist)
Learn how to create an article

Thanks

This editing thing is incredibly complicated at times. I wanna add stuff, but the jargon-like interface is...
Sa.vakilian, when i click on the link to your name, it says that you are are level-one in arabic, level-2 in english, etc etc, how do i add those things ?! {{helpme}} Help please. Thank you.

Ah, you're looking for WP:Babel. You may also be interested in Wikipedia:Userboxes. SWAdair 10:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly what I needed! Thank you!

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Salam

Salam Unflavoured! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing!--Sa.vakilian 03:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hadith

Unflavoured, even Muslim scholars argue about which hadith are strong, weak, or unreliable. Western academic scholars are even more skeptical. They believe that most hadith (even the sahih ones) are later inventions. Therefore you can't conclude that because Tirmidhi says Muhammad said something, therefore Muhammad said it. Hadith involving Sunni-Shi'a issues are particularly problematic, because these hadith were first written down after the overthrow of the Umayyads and when the Sunni and Shi'a were finally irrevocably splitting.

I'm not making this argument from a Shi'a viewpoint. Most of the Shi'a editors dislike me intensely, because I am writing from a Western academic viewpoint. Insofar as is possible (there's only one of me and I can't watch all the Islam-related articles) I try to make sure that articles are as neutral as possible. That means not allowing statements that make POV assumptions.

That also means opposing anti-Muslim bigots, who dislike me as well. Welcome to Wikipedia :) Zora 06:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Using "narrated" is NOT OK in my book -- it's used by ulema, not by Western academic scholars. It's an idiosyncratic usage with a religious flavor, and makes it sound as if the matn were true. Which it may not be. Look at the rewrite I did and see if that's better. Zora 06:42, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Asalamualikum

Thanks brother, i will ask for your help inshallah soon, i am working to completely rewrite the article of Caliph uthman, becoz its was very small and didn't provided complete info of this great Caliph. see it in my sand box, on user page. Well, i am now a bit confused on the article and work is stoped, wather Uthman's empire's frontiers were upto moraco in west or upto tunisia ??? if you know it tell me, i have to go to library to check it out, inshallah tomarow i will go.
i will also start work on the new article "Rashidun Empire" or islamic Empire,(the 9 million square kilometer empire at its peak, ruled by rightly guided caliphs, the rashiduns) see its info box in my sand box, if you can help me in it you are most well come, it gonna be huge so i cant work alone, if you know some one else then tell me i will ask him too, and as usuall gonna need strong correction in grammer etc sentences etc etc... Mohammad Adil 07:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the corrections, currently i am working on this [1]. i have started it with army, as usual my favorite subject. well to finish this article soon i need contributions. i am also gonna write the article of "conquest of Damascus" will start it soon inshallah. Mohammad Adil 20:19, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for edits and accept my award of tireless contribution.Mohammad Adil 20:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where are you bro.. the article is waiting for you. Mohammad Adil 20:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Asalamuaikum, welcome back! i have compelted the article of Uthman ibn affan, and have writen these articles as well, Battle of Chains, Siege of Jerusalem (637) and Conquest of Damascus. now i am try to make my mind to restart the article of Rashidun empire[2]. I am confused, wather to start writing new article for Caliph Abu Bakr, or to restart this one. And one thing over which i need help or you can say suggestion is that " will i make the new article by the name Rashidun empire or Islamic empire, or will i edit it into pre-existing atricle of Rashidun Caliphate ???? suggestions needed,what do you recommand ?

Mohammad Adil 10:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- Asalamualikum, i read your suggestions about the naming of the article which deals with the empire ruled by Rashidun Caliphs. But i had a look over the article Rashidun Caliphate, its theme seems to be the same, and more over there is a "category" by the name Battles involving Rshhidun Caliphate, and in many of the islamic history stuff the era is remmembered as Rashidun Caliphate or Khilafat ar rashidah, i mean it seems that all will gonna distrub if i made an other article with the name rashidun empire, so how do you think the emergence of the article of rashidun caliphate with rashidun empire ????, or will you defend the begining of the new article rashidun empire ?????

Mohammad Adil 21:28, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- And yes i am also making a new article with the name Rashidun Army or Rashidun Caliphate army, and the article of the rashidun empire is almost complete if you have time so plz check it for grammer etc etc etc .

Mohammad Adil 21:56, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ta

Hi unflavoured and thanks for your comment. My user page looks OK in my browser. I don't have time to work on it either. Perhaps I can find a user page whizz kid. Cheers. Itsmejudith 12:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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thanks

Thanks for this edit[[3]].Khalidkhoso 15:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for correction; i am sorry for late reply. I am doing fine, life is good with me, i am glad you like my work ,i am agreed with you regarding one thing as we both are human ,so we have much in common and lots differences in views. I will ask you for help if i need it, beside i need help every day life. You can also use red word on your user page.Khalidkhoso 10:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Qur'an

Unflavoured, there are a great many traditions about Muhammad's life, including central tenets of the Islamic religion, which are found nowhere in the Qur'an, but "only" in hadith or sira. That's not usually thought a problem - were it so, we'd be completely unable to construct any kind of coherent biography.Proabivouac 08:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice Work

Assalamualaykum. JazakAllah Khair. (Romeo was a woman, LOL that was funny! :) 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 07:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

oops, needed edit! :) 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 07:42, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good thinking. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 08:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Numan (r.a)

ya, i was actually thinking of writing on him, when i was preparing the article on battle of Qadisiyyah. I am done with the battle and hope to complete Siege of Ctesiphon 637 today. then i have plans to write an article "more military type" for battle of nihawand and meanwhile i will write a new article on Nouman ibn Muqarran (r.a) too. Mohammad Adil (talk) 11:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wel come back

asalamualikum....

wel come back bro .... its been a long time since ur last edit ... almost a year.

الله أكبرMohammad Adil 10:06, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Battle of Yarmouk is currently undergoing A class nomination, and need a copy-edit for style and stuff, check it if u can help.

regards الله أكبرMohammad Adil 10:29, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for ur work man ...

الله أكبرMohammad Adil 10:36, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

take it its your's...

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		I award you this barn-star, for your copy-editing on Battle of Yarmouk. U deserve it man.... الله أكبرMohammad Adil 11:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

asalamualikum, we are having a little dispute on Talk:Muslim conquest of Persia. See if you can help.

الله أكبرMohammad Adil 20:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you proof read my translation?

Hello Unflavoured , I translated an article from Arabic to English ( my first time ever) and I am looking for someone to proof read it and help it clean it up. Thank you!--Saab 1989 (talk) 16:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Arabi_(magazine)

Turkey protests

You wrote "the protests in Turkey have been going on for many, many years, and that is a fact. RS have mentioned that these protests were renewed this year after being inspired by other protests in the region, and that is also a fact. I think that there are solid arguments both for including Turkey, and for not including Turkey. That being said, perhaps it is wisest to wait a while to see if a RS will mention that these protests are a part of the Arab Spring or not, instead of "being inspired by." After all, it might get its own article: "Kurdish Summer," as opposed to the current "2011 Kurdish protests in Turkey." That means you oppose the request for inclusion of Turkey unless we have a RS for it. I agree. It's said that I'm the only one who is against this. So, as you are also against that request now, would you consider changing your comment to a vote? That would show that I'm not alone. Kavas (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In response to your concern

I suppose I should have clarified: I believe, under any circumstances, that if we have a page on Middle East and North Africa protests, and there are protests in Armenia and Azerbaijan, they should be included. But the reason why I've put as much work as I have into the 2011 Armenian protests and 2011 Azerbaijani protests pages, and the reason why I've been as active as I have in advocating for them, is that I believe they deserve some recognition. I understand your concern but I don't believe I've compromised my integrity as an editor. -Kudzu1 (talk) 11:08, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope not. Thank you very much for bringing that to my attention, though. My intent was to address the user's accusations, as he appeared to be concerned that I have some sort of anti-Armenian agenda, and to explain that my passion for the subject is for much less malicious reasons; I should have done better to make that clearer. -Kudzu1 (talk) 11:32, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

May 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Mecca massacre. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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Mecca massacre

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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You have made 3 full reverts on, and 4 partial reverts on Mecca massacre, in the last 24 hours. If you make one more revert of any kind, partial or full , you will have violated WP:3RR, and you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Wayiran (talk) 14:45, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You just broke 3RR with your last edit, which was a partial revert, restoring material that had been previously removed 3 times. If you revert yourself, I will not report you. Otherwise, you will get blocked. See WP:Game, waiting 5 minutes after 24 hours, to make yet another revert, is gaming the system. Kurdo777 (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am pretty sure that I did not break any rule, but I will ask an admin and see. If they agree that I have broken the rules, I will undo my edit. Unflavoured (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Muhammed's death

Hello bro... Thanks for removing the nationality, as I noticed it's kinda weird, too. I'm really concerned about the misleading stating that the cause of his death is illness. The "farewell" section's citation says that he had a head-ache, lol. Dying from illness most-likely sounds like a serious disease. How is that if Muslims claim that he had many medicine knowledge. Do you think we can use another term to minimize the possible misunderstanding. I'm kind of confused. Please reply on your-own talkpage. Happy editing ~ AdvertAdam^talk 06:12, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IIRC, it was a high fever. Some people believe he was poisoned, though. I will make a minor edit. Unflavoured (talk) 07:08, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, people say all sort of things. He finished his message, and the Qur'an says so. I think who make those claims are the people who're trying to add crap over Islam and say that the prophet whoudl-of done so if he's alive, hehe. Anyways, thanks for your edit. Take care ~ AdvertAdam^talk 07:20, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Upgrading Yemen to Civil War Status

Elevate_Yemen_to_Civil_War Please express your views when you have the time. Peace & blessings. --Smart (talk) 23:09, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Notice

I've resisted the 1987 Mecca page for a move. Since you participated in the last discussion, I'm hereby notifying you of the new discussion at Talk:1987_Mecca_riot#.2F.2A_Requested_move_.2A.2F. Kurdo777 (talk) 07:12, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I only notified those who are still active, two from each side of the argument. If you want to contact the others who had participated in the previous discussion, go ahead and do it yourself. Kurdo777 (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flotilla disinformation video

Thanks for your well-researched sources on this. I didn't mean my comment in that thread as trivializing or dismissive, but rather as just playful. If you look at the source Sean had just recommended to me it includes a very salacious video produced by the same guy, but for Puma shoes. I wasn't ridiculing your sources or your suggestion, though; far from it. If I was ridiculing anything it was the maker of the hoax video for his silly Puma video. Sorry if I gave any different impression. Best, – OhioStandard (talk) 16:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Many people take Wikipedia far too seriously. Thankfully, I am not one of them. There is no need for an apology. Unflavoured (talk) 16:31, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear it; thanks. – OhioStandard (talk) 16:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings (reaply)

Asalamualikum

Nice to see you around, yeah i haven't edit any thing for a long time, i occasionally visit the user page, i am quite stuck in my job inshallah will have a come back soon.. Regards. الله أكبرMohammad Adil 19:06, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

more proof that bukhari was heterodox

he believed the Sahaba turned against the prophet after his death Sahih al Bukhari volume 8 book 76 number 587 imamiten.blogspot.com/2011/02/companions-of-muhammed-swt-will-go.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.148.5.173 (talk) 06:14, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IP Hopping

I'm just off to bed so I left a message at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#IP Hopping. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 08:18, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of an Article

Salam,

Would you please consider Moon-God Allah for deletion nomination? It is a POV Fork and violates WP:SOAPBOX. I am not very active in en.Wiki, so it will be great if you do it. Regards, BiObserver (talk) 16:16, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could i have your opinion

Hi. I was wandering if i could have your take on the occultation section of the wiki article criticisn of twelver. Editor xareen keeps deleting it and makes bo sense for his removal. Could you have a look at it and let me know wgat you think?Suenahrme (talk) 03:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes i fully agree with getting an admin. i have always called for others input and opinions. But i do not know how to get admin involved if you can help. Also i just want to say that the occultation section is referenced with an academic and other points which are mentioned on talk page. Thankyou.Suenahrme (talk) 03:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and i did not even add the occultation part. But i agree that it should be kept because no one has put a credible reason to get rid of it yet.Suenahrme (talk) 03:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hiagain. Do you know how to intiate a formal way of arbitration on the mutah section? I think this is the only and best course left since this edit war seems like it has no end in sight.Suenahrme (talk) 01:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ask for comment

Salaam alaik brother. Please leave your comment in the new section I have opened: Talk:Criticism of Twelver Shi'ism#Conclusions. Then we'll ask the admin to intervene and decide. Thanks.--Aliwiki (talk) 16:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Again, please fill out the reason section I have provided newly, and avoid going in detail. Thanks--Aliwiki (talk) 04:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Innocence of Muslims film trailer

Hi, I'm writing because you are listed in Category:Translators ar-en. It was recently pointed out at Talk:Innocence of Muslims#ARABIC Wikipedia version that the English Wikipedia article on the deliberately inflammatory film trailer Innocence of Muslims contains very much more detailed information about the deliberate deceit on the part of the filmmakers to try to obscure their identity and the nature of the trailers which has not yet been added to the Arabic version at ar:براءة_المسلمين which is getting about 8,000 page views per day presently. Would you please consider adding some of the details which might help Arabic readers understand some of the missing details of the trailers? Thank you for your consideration. —Cupco 22:14, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About MOBA/Action RTS

Look, judging by what you said on the multiplayer online battle arena talk page, I think you may be getting the wrong impression about my motives and my perspective on the issue. The truth of the matter is, soon after I created the page for Dota 2, somebody else created a page for the "Dota genre". The consensus was, that since a genre name had not been solidified amongst the community and the Wikipedia editors for consensus, that we would link to that page, but use the name "action real-time strategy". I made edits to most every page by actually linking that very same reference you used on the Dota 2 page to justify the perspective on the genre. Earlier this year, I successfully changed the page's title to action real-time strategy. However, about half a year later, we had all received enough demands for changing the name of the page that it became clear that multiplayer online battle arena was the dominant name. So, I begrudgingly changed the name and realigned all the relevant pages to fit MOBA, unfortunately.

Wikipedia policies have been refined, even in the last two years, since Dota 2 was released. I'd really love to have action real-time strategy sit on that page, but I can't justify it with it being the name that Valve likes anymore. I hope you can understand and forgive me for this. DarthBotto_talk•cont 00:59, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not up to you to decide what makes sense; it's up to the community. You did provide a source, but that doesn't mean that the name that we go off of will be changed. And yes, I am talking about the Dota 2 page, because if you want that name to stay on that page, you will have to change the name of the multiplayer online battle arena page. This isn't about a conflict between you and I- you could revert it to saying action real-time strategy, but because of what was reached on the MOBA page, it will be reverted by another user. DarthBotto_talk•cont 03:28, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But, as a sign of good faith, if you were to revert it back to "action real-time strategy" on the Dota 2 page, I wouldn't revert it again. DarthBotto_talk•cont 03:37, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not interested in reverting for the sake of reverting. I want the change to be based on policy. I see no reason why the name HAS to be changed on the MOBA page just because it is changed on the DotA 2 page. But please let us discuss this on the DotA 2 page. Unflavoured (talk) 04:02, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Salamalikum.

Salamalikum brother,

Thank you for your message. I made the edit on the page because of the lack of references and due to the absence of support from scholars/major books to support the claim. I notice that the edit has been undone. I am willing to accept your version of edit if you are able to support it with reliable references.

Looking forward to hear from you

Allah knows best,

--Abbasrazvi786 (talk) 18:52, 7 November 2012 (UTC) Salam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbasrazvi786 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My own POV

So, I realize that I've let my own POV take control of my comments on the Pillar of Defense page. I've removed the page from my watchlist. If it is re-nominated for deletion, can you let me know? Ryan Vesey 19:10, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

Hi, regarding your revert on the Operation_Pillar_of_Defense article [4]. I answered you comment at Talk page. Thank you --Mor2 (talk) 10:31, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have elaborated on my decisions, in light of your latest objection. please self revert. --Mor2 (talk) 11:18, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

P versus NP problem

Thanks for fixing the incomplete revert I did on P versus NP problem. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:22, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shi'a view of the Sahaba

The major move was to turn a simple redirect into a massive list of unsourced opinion. I was merely reverting to that redirect. Edward321 (talk) 01:09, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation for discussion

Hi, there a talk over the page of "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Vote_for_pimp", can you join the discussion.? Andri Kuawko (talk) 20:00, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections are now open!

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