Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Czech Footballer of the Year

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The result was keep per WP:POINT. Bencherlite ^Talk 21:12, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Czech Footballer of the Year

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This particular award is not notable. No reliable secondary sources, just a list. Nothing more than the presentation of a list published by an independent organisation on their website. NickSt (talk) 17:44, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 February 5. Snotbot t • c » 17:58, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:58, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Are you kidding? The highest individual award for football players in the country. Concise, referenced article with 7 interwikis. Do I need to say more? - Darwinek (talk) 18:22, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Number of interwikies? Not relevant in the slightest. Highest award? Does not mean it is notable. NickSt (talk) 18:34, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Main awards given by the governing body of football in the Czech Republic. Easily notable. Keresaspa (talk) 18:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Merge into a single article - This article and the several other articles are all confusing and should be merged into a better format, some examples are Albanian, Armenian, Austrian, Azerbaijani , Belarusian, or it be, pretty much everything in this list Template:National_Footballer_of_the_Year. Eduemoni ^↑talk↓ 18:26, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Sputnik and Darwinek, both of you gave no valid reason for the maintenance of this article, all these articles I listed before became a content fork, it also must be noted that notability is not inherit, UEFA is notable and the Footballer of the Year, the worldwide award, and the footballer are notables, but this doesn't make the award notable. Several grammy and academy award ballots doesn't have articles in wikipedia. And once again, all of these pages could be combined creating a more concise article. For example, a table with years being the rows and countries the columns, it would be better for the reader and better for maintenance. Forks in wikipedia are only tolerated when housekeeping becomes unbearable which in this case is quite the opposite. Eduemoni ^↑talk↓ 18:32, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The navigation through the articles is a nuisance (even through the template), so is through Template:National_Footballer_of_the_Year_templates, these content should be reviewed and merged ASAP. There is no real reason for these articles standing alone. Eduemoni ^↑talk↓ 18:37, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Er, this article and all of those you cite are lists of winners not ballots. What's confusing about a list of winners, each listed beside the year in which they won? Seems the most logical and sensible way to present such a list to my eyes. And what grounds for deletion is something being "hard to navigate"? That's just your personal opinion after all. Keresaspa (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - a quick Google search for "Fotbalista roku" reveals there are plenty of reliable third-party sources out there to satisfy the general notability guideline. ★ Bald Zebra ★ ^talk 19:34, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not about the number of sources, but their significance. The listed sources are routine sports journalism (i.e. not significant) and are about the individual players who have won the award as opposed to the award itself. NickSt (talk) 19:41, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. We have a number of featured lists of this type, such as FWA Footballer of the Year. With some work from someone who speaks Czech, this would have the potential to become another. Google News is giving me numerous independent sources for the subject, including coverage in many different countries. Oldelpaso (talk) 20:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - this nomination is a clear example of WP:POINT; an article the nominator created on a similar topic (i.e. a football award) is currently at AfD. Giant Snowman 20:30, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.