Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madhyapara massacre

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The result was keep. SarahStierch (talk) 01:05, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Madhyapara massacre

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One of a non-notable and quite possibly POV-driven series of articles created in good faith by one editor; there is a dearth of any sources to be found, especially with the given title; if this indeed occurred, it is not an historically accurate title for the article (possible OR); the only given sources are apparently in Bahun, so source veracity cannot be checked (request for translation by template was removed). GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 00:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are references at the end of the article. It is a good article. Why delete it? 117.227.84.167 (talk) 17:03, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Four foreign language sources (three of which are dead links) do not indicate notability. (Note:I tried to find replacements for these links, and could not find any.) Search engines can barely find the term. It's just not notable; and is indicative of OR. In addition, there are several other "massacre" articles by the same author which fall into the same category as the one above. The edit summaries of these indicate a complete POV push regarding the troubled time. I will be adding those here if I have the time before the AfD is through. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 19:47, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, yes they do. It doesn't matter what language the source is in, so long as it is independently-published, the coverage substantial, and its information presumably trustworthy. Nor is there any requirement that a website remain functional forever — which is why we should be using more permanent forms of sourcing that ephemeral web pages. Carrite (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep If 370 people are killed in a single day just because of their religious affiliation it certainly is a notable incident. We must remember that this incident is not an isolated one. It is a part of the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. Due to link rots, the sources could not be verified I agree. But I have fixed one link rot and added one more source which can be verified. Regarding the title, the term used by Bangladeshi media is মধ্যাপাড়া গণহত্যা which translates to Madhyapara genocide. But the killings of 370 people alone can't constitute a genocide, so I had used the term Madhyapara massacre. Please suggest suitable title. BengaliHindu (talk) 06:26, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 November 22. —cyberbot I ^Notify_Online 00:25, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Clear keep; a massacre of 370 people for any reason is a historic event, well beyond the filter against mundane coverage of awful events envisioned by WP:NOTNEWS. Carrite (talk) 17:21, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the sentiment, but what about citation or references? There is nothing on any search I come up with. The sources in the articles are dead links. There is no way to verify that any one even died as described or that this incident even took place. It's similar to the Bicholim deal as far as I can see. If anyone would or could provide ANY reliable source(s), I will gladly withdraw my request. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 19:12, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly refer to this Bengali article titled ৭১এর গণহত্যার নির্মম দৃষ্টান্ত শরীয়তপুরের মধ্যপাড়া বধ্যভূমি, বিজয় সেখানে আজো পৌছেনি!. There is even a picture of the memorial. BengaliHindu (talk) 07:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant: WP:DEADLINK, WP:NOENG. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:39, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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