Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mechanicsburg High School Marching Band

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Mechanicsburg Area Senior High School#Music program. In the case of a merge, the redirect would be to preserve attribution history for the merged material. RL0919 (talk) 19:26, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mechanicsburg High School Marching Band

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no coverage outside local area. DGG ( talk ) 17:06, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/Redirect to Mechanicsburg Area Senior High School. Not deserving a full article but perhaps a bit on the high school page. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 16:01, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to the High School page, as not independently notable but worth a section there with local reliable sources, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:44, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete If someone wants to merge some of the content go ahead but even with the low cost of redirects, I don't think, following a successful merge, that this redirect satisfies policy and as such I don't think it's an appropriate WP:ATD. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:31, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:22, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:31, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete high school bands are not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:47, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Redirect to Mechanicsburg Area Senior High School#Music program. It seems like a perfectly obvious and plausible WP:ATD and I honestly don't understand the comment above that such a redirect would not satisfy policy given that policy essentially only requires the incredibly low standard of 'it might be useful', and for it not to meet any of the criteria at WP:R#DELETE, which as far as I can see this would not. Barkeep49, can you expand on why this redirect would not satisfy policy? Hug^syrup 15:10, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough question. I am normally a "Redirects are so low cost why worry about them" sort of guy. And I am aware of the perils of Wikipedia:Merge and delete. However in this case our name "Mechanicsburg High School" is different than the name of our article "Mechanicsburg Area Senior High School". And further in the wisdom of WP:OTHERSTUFF "identifying articles of the same nature that have been established and continue to exist on Wikipedia may provide extremely important insight into the general concept of notability, levels of notability" I think applying the opposite here is important. High School bands are only going to be notable in extraordinary circumstances. School related articles are a perpetual battleground on Wikipedia. I would prefer we not open a new front. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply and additional detail. As I see it, you're making two arguments: 1) the school names are inconsistent, but that seems a poor reason to avoid redirection since the Mechanicsburg High School Marching Band article makes it clear in the first line that it is referring to the band at Mechanicsburg Area Senior High School, and the whole purpose of a redirect is to helpfully capture commonly used names and search terms, which surely Mechanicsburg High School Marching Band is. And 2) I'm not sure I quite understand the point about WP:OTHERSTUFF but essentially you seem to be arguing that high school bands are almost never notable and we should not open the door to notability for them. If that is your argument, I entirely agree and I fully support this not existing as a standalone article, but of course notability is not required for a redirect, so this seems a little beside the point. Hug^syrup 16:15, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - as HS bands go, it appears to be good enough to be in regional contests - and has some coverage. Bearian (talk) 18:46, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.